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Old 04-23-2010, 06:40 AM   #1
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Default '56 International Truck n dragster build thread

With a couple of just for fun race cars under way at the Meon Valley Hot Rods barn and me not having a ride on the road, it was decided that a cheap push truck was needed.

The proprietor of the Meon Valley Hot Rods barn Mark Bull (leaning on the truck in the first pic) knew of a '56 International S100 pickup vegging out in a friends yard so a deal was done and it dragged up the barn for a quick and cheap make over.

Once it arrived at the barn we got the engine running so it could be sold as a runner and it was generally checked over and found to be pretty solid with only a few areas of concern on the body, chassis's mint.

But damn it's high!





So day 1 was to start pulling it down, had the font off by the end of the day (we talk alot and drink loads of tea...)



Day 2, (the following Saturday) Saw the engine and box out, front suspension off and rear axle out. The rear spring hanger was reversed and the chassis mocked up closer to ride height and a tyre thrown in the arch.

Looking better already





Plenty of parts chasing yet to happen but we've got a cheap 10 Bolt and th350 so far. A jag front end has been lined up, as has some chevy & MK2 jag steelies

Looking forward to day 3 tomorrow...

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Old 04-23-2010, 07:09 AM   #2
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I love it!
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:21 AM   #3
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Very nice. Personally, I like 'em high just to clear my driveway but that body style looks sharp high and low. I'm looking forward to seeing it finished.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:24 AM   #4
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..that's one dandy of a truck, looks to be in very good cond....I'll be watching it get even better now....neat shop you got too and nice deuce.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:10 AM   #5
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Nice to have some Hot Rods in the UK! Do you import from the US/Canada or source parts locally?
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:38 PM   #6
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Thanks people

No shortage of rods in the UK and businesses supporting the hobby. Lots of importing going on though naturally. My truck came from South Africa.
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:53 PM   #7
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Cool -- nice to see another IH Pickup getting some time invested into it!

Have a '53 IH Pickup project. I think you've gotten more accomplished in two days, though, than I have in two years. ;-)
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:27 PM   #8
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Default Re: '56 International, the Ugly Push Truck build thread

Love the looks of the truck so far. This is just my opinion.......truck could stand a little out of the roof. Just a few inches would put it in my "proper" proportion. Please keep us updated.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:49 PM   #9
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My dad and I have owned ours for over 35 years. I've chased a lot of binder parts and seen a lot of trucks and yours is one of the cleaner ones out there.
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:58 AM   #10
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Good score!
Now, I really should do something to my International....
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:50 PM   #11
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thats a way cool lil pick up id dig it ,
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:04 PM   #12
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Make a cool ride from that truck. keep us posted
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:25 PM   #13
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Day 3, well we got the rear end in place today

Mark made up so new pads



Which we used to flip a 10 bolt to on top of the springs, we also dropped the 3 lower springs from the helper pack. The u-bolts were left a little long in case we needed to lower it a bit more, not going to be needed...



We also reversed the rear spring hangers, you can see the frame needs c-notching which we'll do when the bed is taken off next week.





And bingo, nice and low at the back. We need less back space and maybe another inch wider rims, rim on it is 15x7 with a 235/75 tyre



Next weekend will see the bed removed, frame c-notched and the jag front end installed. Also started cutting out the gearbox crossmember so we can move in back a ways, man those rivets are tough!!!!!

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:31 PM   #14
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Love the looks of the truck so far. This is just my opinion.......truck could stand a little out of the roof. Just a few inches would put it in my "proper" proportion. Please keep us updated.
Yeah that was my immediate reaction too but it won't be happening, can't risk fucking up the screen as there won't be any spares over here. It's a shame they don't have flat glass as we'd definitely give it a mild chop then... Will just have to settle for it being loooooow lol
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:17 PM   #15
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:46 AM   #16
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Nothing too exciting to report, the Jag clip wasn't pulled in time for us to collect it for fitting this weekend and the weather was against us so just did some crappy jobs between the rain.

The pickup bed had been sprayed with some thick industrial rubber coating years ago, it was evil shit to get off and just had to scrape it off by hand and took pretty much all day. It was one of those jobs where no one was going to help either, bastards! It was totally understandable though as a new ride had just arrived, Mark's coupe in the photos above has just gone to Germany and he's just bought a '49 Ford Pilot to play with so there was lots of checking it over and a bit of fettling here and there. Even I joined in when I needed a sanity break from the rubber scraping....

Also picked up a column shift column out of a '64 Impala this week, also got some steelies but these turned out to be a bum deal so still looking for rims.

Anyway, here's a couple of pics of the Pilot. It's pretty solid with old paint which buffed up to a good 20 footer, one chassis rail has had some bad repairs and will need sorting out. Flathead was stumbling a bit and a quick carb swap sorted that out quickly enough. Plans are for some 750 & 600 white walls, reversing the eyes and removing a spring or two. Mark's initial thoughts were to adapt a lazy 305 to the original box but after driving it we might see a mildly hopped up French flathead and some rear gears instead which will be cool!



Cool bumpers eh!

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Old 05-04-2010, 05:50 AM   #17
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Old 05-07-2010, 02:17 PM   #18
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Takes one to know one......

And dont forget,i have a dropped axle for the Pilot and it will be getting 2 doored with the fronts being stretched 8 or 9".

Oh,and the new shop truck arrived yesterday,nice little surprise for you!

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Old 05-08-2010, 02:19 AM   #19
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They did have a repotation for being ugle, but they also had the roomiest cab.


there is an earlier split window version of the
IH Triple Diamomd Light Line cab.

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Old 05-09-2010, 03:34 AM   #20
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Well day 5 was a bit of a disappointment, the guy with the jag clip has gone to Magaluf for a stag weekend so we can't get it to next week and I was too busy at work to get the steel organised for the C notch. Weather was crap again so just pulled the running boards and rear fenders between showers. Next week should hopefully see some real actively!

As Mark (Bully) said there was another new ride at the barn when I arrived. A hot rodder with cash burning a hole in his pocket can only do one thing, buy more toys!!

So as well as the Pilot he's bought a '59 Ford pickup that's a well cool beater. Still has the original driveline with just flipped axles and err, weathered paint.





With the Pilot at Mark's home whilst he collects parts, the crew was working on one of the other shop projects, the old '60s Slingshot.

Here's what we started with



And mocked up with it's baby 2.5l Daimler hemi before it was torn down with Bully sitting in the hot seat making engine noises...



The old front suspension was cut off and the chassis was sent out to be blasted, then given a quick coat of primer after a lot of excess brackets were cut off.



Mid plate for



The baby hemi



New rear end mounting plates go in



Engine, box and axle loaded





A few adjustments, safety first at all times LOL



With the chassis nice a stiff with the driveline loaded, it was time to cut off the cage to extend it a few inches for some more room.



Hmmm, hemi!!!





More adventures rom the barn next week...
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Old 05-09-2010, 03:55 AM   #21
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Ummm, about that 'Binder...the rivets can be knocked out fairly easily if you cut the outer head off, drill them about halfway through and then use a punch that's a tight fit in the hole you just drilled. The rivet will stretch and pop out really easily. 3 or 4 whacks with a BFH, and you can move on to other stuff for the day. There's only about 14 Bajillion in the average Binder frame...shouldn't be longer than a couple hours.
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Old 05-09-2010, 04:45 AM   #22
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That IH has some wicked lines....love what you've done so far....

HOWEVER....you shoulda opened up your own build thread on the digger....thats bad ass as well...
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:53 PM   #23
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Ummm, about that 'Binder...the rivets can be knocked out fairly easily if you cut the outer head off, drill them about halfway through and then use a punch that's a tight fit in the hole you just drilled. The rivet will stretch and pop out really easily. 3 or 4 whacks with a BFH, and you can move on to other stuff for the day. There's only about 14 Bajillion in the average Binder frame...shouldn't be longer than a couple hours.
I wouldn't quite say easy. I cross cut them with an angle grinder then shear the heads off in quadrants flush to the frame, then get yourself a chisel and pry at the frame to get the rivet clear.

The hardest ones are the ones holding on the rear leaf spring perches. They are about 3/4" long. Those took probably 1 hour per set of four using the cut method as well as a drill, a wood chisel and an air chisel and BFH.

I've cut a few on my '54...
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Cool old truck,Steve.I'd love something like that as my 'daily'.Unfortunately,'she who must be obeyed' is having none of it!
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #25
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Great truck build. Look forward to seeing its progress.

FYI, there were a few Ford Pilot rods over here back in the 1970s, but I haven't seen 'em for years. I also dig the Daimler-powered FED. Cool idea.
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Steve, Your truck is lookin' SPOT-On!

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I've cut a few on my '54...
You need bag clearance.
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Yeah got the jag front cross member located last weekend but forgot my phone could take any pics but a snapped a few today. Still lots of boxing to do as you can see







It was raining all day today and with the truck outside we did some work on Mark's slingshot in the barn where it was nice and dry

Got the front spring cross member lined up and tacked in and trimed the mid plate



Made some front engine mounts for the original Daimler ones to bolt to, nothing special, just functional





Mark had turned down some new tube to slide into the original frame to extend the cockpit area so we fitted those and got it welded up. Still a few bits of tube to fit





Loads on room now, that's me in there. Also going to run 2 94s this year using an adapter, should look well cool on the little Daimler



A new set of Supremes have arrived as well



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Good progress with the truck,Steve.Was the Jag front end as straightforward to install as it looks?
Love the slingshot too.
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Cheers Mark, I've actually been a bit slow recently due top life forces...

Yeah the clip does go in pretty easy really. We cut off the front mounting horns and welded it cause the chassis dips down at the fornt and the sway bar wouldn't have fitted. We could hace C notched for the sway bar and front rubber mounts but we are after a quick build so we took the quicker weld it on route. Will still have the jag handling, just not the rubber mounted ride. The 4 port calipers are huge as well, going to have good brakes. Also picked up some cheap rims with new white band radials, not firestones it know but there were a decent deal.

Yeah the dragsters going to be fun, goal is the HRD's...
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Rubber mounted or not,handling and braking will,as you say,be a vast improvement over stock.But Steve,RADIALS?What next?Electric windows?Cup holders?LOL.
Seriously though,I'll be watching this thread with interest as,I plan on replacing my daily('04 Jeep)next year with a classic truck.
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Yeah I know Mark, it's a real budget, well no budget really, truck and the wheels n tyres came up at very cool price. Trying to start a new business at the moment so it's a case of just get it on the road a fine tune it with the right parts hen s allow. No power windows or cup holders though you bitch... ;-)

You got your eye on a specific truck yet?
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Isnt that Skratch's old truck?
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Yeah I know Mark, it's a real budget, well no budget really, truck and the wheels n tyres came up at very cool price. Trying to start a new business at the moment so it's a case of just get it on the road a fine tune it with the right parts hen s allow. No power windows or cup holders though you bitch... ;-)
You got your eye on a specific truck yet?
I remember starting up in business.Hard times!Even though I was lucky enough to have my own premises.Good luck with that,Steve.What line of business are you getting into?
No specific truck yet but an early suburban or even a wagon might be the the best solution so I have room for the dog etc.
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Isnt that Skratch's old truck?
It sure is.Bought off him by a fella over here in Swindon,about 75 miles from me.I saw it,twisted his arm a bit and he agreed to sell it to me.Its going to stay pretty much as it is for now.It needs need bushes in the front springs,new ball joints/drag link and some play out of the steering box.All the parts are on order and due to arrive any day now.The crossplies have had to go as it was dangerous to drive on them.A set of radials are now on there and it drives very well on those.
Immediate plans are to fit the suspension parts,get the exhaust off and a new system fitted under the truck.(The wife has already burnt the back of her leg on it,that didnt go down well i can tell you!)Then attention will turn to the rust in the bottom cab corners,1 door corner and the roof by the gutters.I will try to fake the paint if i can.The whole truck has been sprayed with Ankor Wax to protect it from the British weather as i plan to put it to, plenty of use!
Today was spent pulling the seat cover and repairing/replacing the springs in the seat..that went well.
More distance plans are for a SBC on the stock gearbox.

Its a cool truck and you can tell him it will be getting well looked after!
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Well after a couple of slow weeks I got some dry time up the barn today. I was very slow starting as my mind hasn't been on the truck recently but eventually emptied the bed of all the panels stored in it and took off the bed. Time to do my first C notch!

I got some 5" steam pipe a couple of weeks back and some lengths of 3mm plate to box the rails so got to work with these.

Didn't take any pics along the way but here's how the first side turned out.

Went from one of these



To one of these







Just the other side to go now



Another week and even less left now...



i now it's not a great deal to a lot of the very skilled people on here but I was pretty pleased really, a good day!! Oh and used a plasma cutter for the first time today, what a brilliant tool.

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WTF is this thread about?
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Trucks, cars and dragsters dude, read it and it makes sense ;-)
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The trucks gonna turn out great Steve
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Got back on the rear of the chassis today.

C notching the remaining side and some more boxing. Here's the boxing plates i cut out



And welded in place








Still need to flip the chassis over and finish the welding but need to get the cab off next...

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How much clearance do you reckon that c-notch buys you from frame to axle under normal weight? Are you planning on dropping the helper leaf pack? Very interested... details details!
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The pipe we used was 5" internal diameter so that will give 2 1/2" additional clearance which translates to 2 1/2" clearance at ride height. That's not me being a smart arse, it's just that after flipping the axle and reversing the rear shackle the frame had about 1 mm axle clearance before the notch so 2 1/2" is what it now has, would have liked more travel but we'll see how it copes. We'll weld on some brackets for bump stops above the C as well. The helper springs are staying but if you look at the pics in post #13 and count the springs in the helper pack you'll notice we removed the bottom 2 leafs from the helper pack for scrub line purposes. If the remaining ones don't come into play due to the lack of travel I'll remove them as well for the additional under axle ground clearance, or my driveway may dictate that anyway.

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Thanks Steve that does. I am actually doing the same thing right now on the same frame without the helper leaves... I have about 4 inches clearance without a notch but am only running 5 leaves so have more travel. Don't think I am going to notch it and going to see how it plays.
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No worries

With that much travel I'd leave it as well. So how'd you lower yours then, just flip the axle?
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:54 AM   #48
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I flipped the axle and threw a mustang II with coil overs in the front similar to what your doing. All said and done I think I am close to the ride height i want to be. I measured low point (front fender) to ground have about 9 inches. Rear is a tad higher. Also threw a 350/700r4 in it and monkeyed with the steering.

Picture of the mock for lowering, you can see the springs give pretty good clearance without helpers... on the ground with the bed on it has 4 inches.

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I love the old Binder trucks. That thing is in damn good shape.
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This is Jamo "Binder" Cosins of DeerLodge, MT's '58 IH push truck!!!
Seems he pushed the wrong button on this Idaho Patrolman's speeding limit.
This one sets on a late model Mercury frame.
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Got back on the rear of the chassis today.

C notching the remaining side and some more boxing. Here's the boxing plates i cut out



And welded in place








Still need to flip the chassis over and finish the welding but need to get the cab off next...

Looks good! Love the old Binders.
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Hey Nwaringa,

Was thinking about how you ended up with 4" of travel so I had another look at your picture, have you eliminated the rear spring shackle or is it just been put on the hanger in the picture to get it out way whilst working on it?

If you've eliminated the shackle the spring won't be able to compress and therefore function as you'll need a shackle for it to work. If this is the case you should be able to cut off the hanger, turn it upside down and run the shackle and be pretty close to the same ride hide.

Just thought I'd mention it in case you'd over looked it.

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Man that's one ugly truck, but the cool ugly!!


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Steve,

That is a bad picture of it early in mock up when I was screwing with the rear shackle to see just what would give me the best result. Below are pictures are it with bed on today (but you cant see shackle), I flipped the rear shackle down and have about 4" without the shocks hooked up. The springs look odd with the shackle down, don't know if this will hurt or not but I see Jeeps etc... all the time with flipped shackles. Does the front spring perch need to be level with the low point on the rear shackle?

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Cool truck! Keep up the good work! I never noticed how much the 56-57 IH looks like a 54-56 Dodge from the front.

I've got a long way to go on my truck.
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Cool Nick, thought it better to offend checking than to say nothing ;-)

Interesting you say you flipped the rear shackled down as mine were down when I got it and so flipped them up. We suspected they should have been up due the rear ride height, if you look at the pics early in the thread you'll see why, it was 4x4 territory!

Not qualified to comment on the shackle alignment but didn't notice mine looking odd with it that way, can't say it was like it long though. If the pinion angle is cool I can't see why it would cause a problem.

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Yeah they really do don't they, I like the Dodge grille

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Worst comes to worse I talk to my drive line guy and if he says flip the hangers... I'll flip the hangers. I appreciate the heads up comments on it Steve. Gonna remove my pics from the thread, as this is dedicated to your build.
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Leave them on there dude, causin no harm
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Left some links in case anybody runs into it again... These old guys are pretty obscure as compared to the Chevys and Fords. What engine do you plan on powering this guy with Steve?
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I've been given a free 350 that just needs shells n rings and a rebuilt TH350 from another mate for 100 notes so being a budget push truck it'll do....
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Some of my pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nwaring...7622344974931/ may or may not interest you (toward the end is when we start working on the engine). Particularly this one:



As you can see... the straight steering needs to go if you go with a 350 and it gets tight around headers. I have seen 1 guy offset the engine to leave the steering but it looks a little funky. Sounds like you have a pretty sweet push truck on your hands.
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Cheers for the link Nick, I'm thinking I'll have to sit down with a beer tonight and have a good look at those. Looks like a nice truck!

I reckon I'm about 3 Saturdays away from lowering the engine and trans in for size but it will interesting to see how the Jag steering lines up.

Hopefully it will turn out cool, it will certainly turn out cheaper than buying a finished truck and I think it will be the only rodded International in the UK as well.
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Only got a few hours on it on Saturday as had to head up to Wembly Stadium for a Green Day gig, awesome gig but a looong day.

Anyway, everyone else was at a car show so I just finished stripping the interior and dash out and it's all in pretty good nick in there which is cool.







Also started another thread on paint colours if any one wants to add their views

Check it out here - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...5289&showall=1



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Cab looks very sound Steve.Is that green the original colour?That'd suit it.Pretty sure that colour is on the chart on your other thread?
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Cheers Hoghead

Cab's pretty good Mark, one of the bottom corners will disappear once it makes it to the blasters and there's some thick filler in the roof just above the rear window where a big dent was filled as it's double skinned and can't be beaten out.

That green is much brighter in real life and bloody horrible, looks like it was Door Co. green from the chart Nick posted, won't be going there.

The colour slide BobJ posted has thrown up a lot of options....
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Your fire wall kick panel is in remarkable shape. I've yet to see one in person without pinholes or repair work, and I've seen a lot of them.
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Yeah it is Ratpin, the cab in general is pretty good, the bed isn't quite so good...

Not a massive amount done this weekend. Dropped the fuel tank so I could remove the bed and slide the cab back to get access for the trans cross member removal. Was a total arse dealing with the rivets but it's now out, also removed the original spring hangers and started welding up some of the excess holes as well.



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Right hand drive even! Wow!

Here's my '56 farm rod



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Hey Shagrat, yeah your definitely right there. Could you do me a favour and measure the width and height of your grille bars and the grille opening please? A couple of chrome bars might look good...

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Another less than productive weekend but we did have lots of visitors yesterday and plenty of cool chatting!

Did get some basic sway bar mounting brackets, was a rubbish windy day for welding outside, nothing some stone chip won't hide though lol



Mark got the Pilot in thw barn for a quick rework in altitude.

Out with the old







There's a 4" drop axle and reverse eye spring going in. Steering arms etc have to be modified cause Pilot stuff is just that little bit different to off the shelf stuff



Also a reverse eye spring for the rear, new exhaust to be made, brakes to be overhalled and only 3 weeks til the Supernats
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Well the truck is on hold whilst we get Mark's Pilot ready for the SuperNats on the 24th and then the slingshot ready for the Hotrod Drags 17th September so it will just be parts chasing until then.

So the lowering of the Pilot continues, read end is all buttoned up now and the front end is in.



Still waiting on a cross steering tie rod end to arrive from the States (thanks for the help steves32!) as well as the tie rod links from a local guy. And the rims from the sand blasters.

Speaking of which, we've cut the centres out of the original wheels and added them to some 6" hoops for the large tyres going on. Our friendly machinist knocked up some stands which were mounted to some kitchen top. Mount the centre and then beat the hoop over it, take it off, mount and spin to check to square ness. Tack and repeat and the finish weld.





If everything comes together it will have a new rattle can spray job and be back on the ground...
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Been a bit quiet on the truck recently trying to ge Mark's stuff sorted, going to shows and waiting to see if the Mrs is being made redundant....

We've been busy playing though, Mark sold the pickup to another mate and then bought a T roadster



And the pilot's finally ready to come out of the barn



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Unfortunately not much has been happening, its slot in doors didn't happen and now winter has arrived, looks petty in the snow though...

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Good to know it's not just this end of the country getting the crappy weather this year!
Merry Christmas,Steve.Have a good 'un!
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Unfortunately not much has been happening, its slot in doors didn't happen and now winter has arrived, looks petty in the snow though...

A very familiar scene this winter, just hope the weather improves soon.
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Yeah and my motivation, Aussie's don't do well in the UK winter, brrrrrrrrrrr!!! ;-)
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The snow melt off yet?
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The snow has melted but all that's happened is that it's been moved to my house and put in the garage whilst I've been dealing with finding a new job.

Good news is that I've just started my 3 months notice period and have a good new job lined up and will be starting that 30th August.

Bad news is that it's a grown up job that is going to take up a lot of time in the first 12 months so I won't have time to deal with toys. It's a conscience desicion so I can invest the time needed to change industry and I'll be much happier in the end.

Bad news 2 is that my wife is facing redundancy at the moment which could result in us having to move so having a truck in pieces isn't very helpful right now.

Earlier in the week I gave myself a deadline of this Sunday to decide whether to sell it or not so unfortunately that's where I am. Whilst it's annoying all my not be lost as I've got a 50 Chevy pickup at a mates in LA that was going to be sold but that may get sent over here instead once things settle down., we'll see.
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hope you can keep it and finish but we know how life gets in the way sometimes... good luck. great looking truck.
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Hi Gotzy, looking forward to picking up the truck when you and Mike have sorted a good date. I've lots of ideas and a a picture in my head for how I want it to look, but will keep them to myself until it's actually home.
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Hey Bob,

It's now back together and ready for collection but in the mean time here's a couple of pics for you



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A mate has an injected 4.2 Jaguar engine and autobox which is coming my way to go in it.

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Running gear mostly done, Jag engine and box, Jag front, Chevy rear with discs.
Panels blasted and welding under way.
Thanks to Mike at Mustard City Speed for doing the work
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"Cool truck" Looking for 50s hub caps,do you have any that you would sell ?
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Don't know if you are interested but someone was re-poping ih caps and selling them through oldihc.org website.
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it's been sold. Here is a link to the new owners build http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/gar...r-pickup-46794
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My gramps had an IH truck & tractor dealership, and we had a pair of '56 S160's that were used for milk route duty- y'know, those milk cans you see in the antique stores these days. The guys hand- lifted every full can up to the flatbed deck, starting at 3AM every day- 14' x 8' flatbed, that's a lotta cans In '60 he bought a D500 Dodge with a 318 poly that was a comparative hotrod to the S160's 269 six and proved to be very good at blasting through overnight snowdrifts in the NY hills (never needed chains once in six years of duty) and put the S160's out of work. One S160 was kept and used as a grain truck, along with a '60 A160, and I learned how to drive a 4x2 at age 11 chasing the combines with that '56. That truck actually had big IH decals on the doors, as it had spent its first few months as a parts-runner for the dealership. The cab, which was shared with the R-series, was designed for a long 6, and the larger 406, 450, and 501 sixes fit every well- in fact I saw several R190's in the 70's that had been repowered with 220 Cummins engines. The V model also used a similar cab with the big 401, 461, 478, and 549 V8 engines. As I have a soft spot for these old Binders, it was hard to see a bellybutton Chebbie headed for the engine compartment of that cool old truck- that Jag engine just fits the six-cylinder working-truck heritage and the truck itself better, and is much more interesting than the bellybutton- glad to see it
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it's been sold. Here is a link to the new owners build http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/gar...r-pickup-46794
Thanks for putting the link up.

The truck keeps moving on and should be painted and on the road in the late spring. I've stopped updating the R&S thread for now and will send some 'in progress', otherwise unseen, photos to a UK magazine that has asked about it.

Cheers, Bob.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:11 PM   #94
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Not been on here for a while so thought it was time for an update.
Mike has finished the chassis build up.
Nearly all the new metal is in including the new rear end, and the paintwork is about half way.
New front bumper has been made from parts of Rover P5 bumpers, and is off for blasting tomorrow.
Dials are Jag and I have seats from another XJ6 to go in.

I'd love this to be ready for the NSRA Supernats in about 2 months (fingers and various other parts crossed).

Bob.

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Old 06-07-2013, 01:43 AM   #95
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Bed now nearly ready for paint.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:38 AM   #96
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It's now made it's first event, the UK NSRA Supernationals and I'm very pleased with how it's turned out.
It still has a few teething troubles to sort and I've got to finish the interior and get a tonneau made for the bed, but all in good time as today I'm getting ready for another big UK event, the NASC Nationals. And as we know, getting it out on the street is the priority.

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Old 08-22-2013, 04:55 AM   #97
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I love the truck.
I love the tail lights,what arethey from?
And the 41_47 chevy truck,is it on the hamb?
Is it the guy who has a 270 gmc on it?
Enjoy.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:38 AM   #98
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I love the truck.
I love the tail lights,what arethey from?
And the 41_47 chevy truck,is it on the hamb?
Is it the guy who has a 270 gmc on it?
Enjoy.
Hi,
Thanks for the comments.

The tail lights are a combination of Citroen 2CV headlight bowls, trailer lights and an odd orange lens I found. All on handmade brackets (assembled, as was almost all the truck, by Mike at Mustard City Speed in Norwich.

Not sure if the Chevy is on here, it belongs to Paul Snowdon who lives local to me. It runs a Small block Chevy and has an enormous air tank giving the fastest suspension rise/dump and the loudest air horns I've ever seen.

The middle car is Graham's Morris 8 with chopped roof and Rover V8.

Cheers, Bob.
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