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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gasport, NY
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SWI66 So many cars, so little time......................... |
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Norwich, UK
Posts: 249
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Apologies for any re-posts here...
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Don't run your fingers over my truck & I won't run my truck over your fingers! Last edited by Ryan; 03-03-2012 at 06:15 PM. |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: columbus, ohio
Posts: 9,522
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Leon, thanks, man, for the post. You are indeed right that ONE of THE most worthwhile and worthy things we do on this thread is supplying historical info and commentary that dramatically increases the value of the whole thread. In other words, it ain't just a picture show. I honestly feel that this is one reason the thread is SO popular -- and to a pretty broad audience. Look at the star rating and the page, post and view counts. Wow.![]() To that end, before we leave the swastika (a Sanskrit term) topic for posterity, here's a site that -- on one detailed page -- explains the complexity of the origins of this symbol and, more importantly, dispels a lot of myth! The symbol was in wide popular use (a real plethora, not limited to the Spirit of St. Louis , the U.S. Boeing P-12 plane , Boy Scout troops and girls' clubs, on and on), until Hitler appropriated it in 1932 as the Nazi Party symbol (and, no, folks, he didn't steal it from the American Indian but from the Mideast or Far East). Hitler's BS was pretty typical of Hitler's general behavior. Ha, ha. But it also performed a disservice to every other culture that revered it as a symbol of positive (even mystic, religious, lucky, etc.) themes. To display it in ANY manner today in the West is to invite ridicule or even attack. That's is a damn shame, brought on by a racist madman bent on revenge for Germany's loss and economic impacts of the Treaty of Versailles. 1917, a SPAD of the American-piloted Lafayette Escadrille. The Nazi Party wouldn't even EXIST for 15 years yet. Boeing P-12 F-4B, 1929 to 1932 The ridiculous business about a "Georgia-born Nazi" is, perhaps, an example of informational perversion at its worst. I'd chuckle, except it isn't funny in the least. Hundreds of thousands of Americans with some German heritage fought the Hun in WWI and fought Hitler in WWII. So, merely having German-sounding name is no excuse for anyone today to draw insulting generalizations. What a world!Here's that informative link. Thanks again for what turned out to be an air-clearing discussion: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/440/was-the-swastika-actually-an-old-native-american-symbol
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: new jersey
Posts: 245
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Good historical info, Jimi. Thanks, man.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: columbus, ohio
Posts: 9,522
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Well, I didn't want to get off on a tangent. But I resent that a stupid, bloody, racist dictator -- dead 67 years -- still has something of a grip on a positive symbol that had existed, in many far-flung cultures, for many centuries. Old Adoph was put in his proper place. Maybe it's about time we TAKE BACK the swastika and restore it to its proper place of honor.
The stubborn people of Swastika, Ontario, never did give in to Hitler. They would NOT allow ANYONE to take away their identity. And I don't give a rat's posterior what neo-nazis, wanna-be nazis or any other self-appointed nazis care to do. They're not the boss-O-me, and I don't need no thought-control. ![]() |
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 284
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Western PA
Posts: 155
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Every time I go through that tunnel, and the others on the PA Turnpike, I try to imagine what an effort it had to have been build back in that time period. Mind boggling.
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dayton, TN
Posts: 189
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gasport, NY
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gasport, NY
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SWI66 So many cars, so little time......................... |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Beavercreek, Oreegone
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Alliance Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bend,Oregon
Posts: 2,983
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Well I'll be danged!!!-----Mountain hasn't changed a bit!!!!
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Howell Michigan
Posts: 4,337
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A few tourism posters from 1936:
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: USA
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London, KY
Posts: 1,617
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"That looks like a scene from a Kirk Douglas movie called "Ace In The Hole"...story of a guy who gets trapped in a cave and Douglas plays a newspaper guy who milks the story, and the trapped guy, for his own gain."
That Kirk Douglas movie, I believe, was loosely based on an actual event in the Mammoth Cave area of Kentucky. It was either in the late 30s or early 40s. A cave explorer named Floyd Collins was trapped in Sand Cave. A reporter for the Louisville paper crawled down to him several times, took him food and drink, and of course covered the story as they tried to dig down to Collins from above. Collins' body was recovered, and he was interred in Floyd Collins Crystal Cave, a tourist attraction. Don't know if it's still open. My family visited and toured it in the 50s, and viewed his coffin.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: London, KY
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After some research, I learned that it actually happened in 1925. Collins' body was initially left in the cave because of the difficulty involved in removing it. He was a pioneer cave explorer, and was reportedly searching for a new entrance to the Mammoth Cave system.
According to Wikipedia... With Collins's remains left in the cave, funeral services were held at the surface. Homer Collins was not pleased with Sand Cave as his brother's grave. Two months later, Homer Collins and some friends reopened the shaft. They dug a new tunnel to the opposite side of the cave passage, and recovered Floyd Collins's remains on April 23, 1925. The following day, the body was buried on the Collins family's farm near Crystal Cave (now known as Floyd Collins Crystal Cave). In 1927, Floyd Collins's father, Lee Collins, sold the homestead and cave. The new owner placed Collins's body in a glass-topped coffin and exhibited it in Crystal Cave for many years. On the night of March 18–19, 1929, the body was stolen. It was recovered, but the injured left leg was missing. After this, it was kept in a secluded portion of Crystal in a chained casket. In 1961, Crystal Cave was purchased by Mammoth Cave National Park and closed to the public. The family had objected to Collins's body being displayed in the cave, and at their request, the National Park Service re-interred him in Flint Ridge Cemetery on March 24, 1989. It took a team of 15 men three days to remove the casket and tombstone from the cave. There was some objection from cavers in Europe, where notable explorers are often buried in caves they discovered.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NorCal (transplant from SoCal)
Posts: 1,847
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That reno sign got removed as the road got wider .... modified and relocated to my town
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Generic response to any and all spelling Nazis, "Talk to my hand!" Last edited by Ryan; 03-03-2012 at 06:15 PM. |
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: No where Indiana, aka South Bend
Posts: 374
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Can anyone tell me the year, make and model of this commercial vehicle, and if possible, where the picture was taken?
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FNG
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: maryland
Posts: 3
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Pat Boone ca. 1960, Teaneck, NJ. That's my parent's house in the back ground.
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Lithuania, Klaipeda city
Posts: 258
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This is 1938 Chevrolet panel truck
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