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Old 11-24-2009, 08:50 AM   #1
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Default 409 Aluminum Block

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Here are a few snapshots of the brand new World Products aluminum 409 Chevy block on a pallet headed to the upcoming PRI Show in Orlando.

Not a lot of info on the block yet but a note attached said that Bill Mitchell had 409 guru Lamar Walden do the engineering design and the hope is it is the lightest 409 block ever made.



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Old 11-24-2009, 08:53 AM   #2
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hummina hummina hummina hummina - woof - imagine an aluminum Lamar Walden built 409 sitting in front of you right before you dropped the clutch! yeeeee frickin ha!
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:55 AM   #3
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PORN!!!! But in the OEM blocks is the walls between the cyclinders have that little meat?
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:59 AM   #4
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Is this the block that is basically a BBC (crank, timing chain, timing cover, etc.) that uses W style heads?
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:05 AM   #5
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PORN!!!! But in the OEM blocks is the walls between the cyclinders have that little meat?

The reason it looks so thin between the cylinders is,its machined bigger for the O.D of the sleeve flange.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:08 AM   #6
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How many cubes with the BBC crank, rods and pistons?

I have a 409 with a 454 crank and rods out to 474 cubes......
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #7
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Traditionally speaking these would be great for the drag racers but a cast iron 409 is the real deal, it reflects an era, however change, progress, refinements, upgrades are great and personal choice in a hot rod build keeps us all looking. Thanks to all who take the time, energy, and money to make things like an aluminum 409 available to those who wish to have one.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:18 AM   #8
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Cool stuff! I like the '09s

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:20 AM   #9
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Well iron 409's may be more traditional, which I certainly agree with, however; I called a company which will remain nameless a short time ago enquiring on the price of a bare 409 iron block. Well for the sum of $5,000 I could pick one up. Needless to say, I just had to laugh at the fellow.... Then the kicker, the bare 348 block could be had for $4,000.... Prices are way out there as some people believe they are sitting on gold. I am curious what the price will be for the new aluminum 409 block?

I welcome the new block, looks great.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:40 AM   #10
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There is a 409 iron block in the works as we speack. No word on prices as yet but I think a lower price than the alluminum. There is 409 used blocks around if you look for 1500 to 2500 bucks. For more info on these go to www.348/409.com
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:43 AM   #11
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There is a 409 iron block in the works as we speack. No word on prices as yet but I think a lower price than the alluminum. There is 409 used blocks around if you look for 1500 to 2500 bucks. For more info on these go to www.348/409.com
Around here, if you look around, you can get a complete engine for that.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:47 AM   #12
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Hey Larry T that sounds like a good reason to hang around there. Gotta love Texas. If they bring out a new block cast iton reasonable price then the price of the older ones will come down allso. If you want the proper deck codes like QA blocks then not likely.
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Hey Larry T that sounds like a good reason to hang around there. Gotta love Texas. If they bring out a new block cast iton reasonable price then the price of the older ones will come down allso. If you want the proper deck codes like QA blocks then not likely.
No, no QA or QB for that unless you really get lucky. But 409's came in lots of different vehicles. Even some farm equipment used them. And they all work for hotrods.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:29 AM   #14
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Here is a 409 i'm working on
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:33 AM   #15
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There is a 409 iron block in the works as we speack. No word on prices as yet but I think a lower price than the alluminum. There is 409 used blocks around if you look for 1500 to 2500 bucks. For more info on these go to www.348/409.com
That's Bob Walla Racing
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He's planning on putting out iron blocks but mostly aluminum. Here's the progress, some people believe that he will have the first available closest to genuine 409 block. It will accept a 454 crankshaft if I'm not mistaken

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http://www.348-409.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13128

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http://www.348-409.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16425

I don't know much about these in the pictures other than if you ask about them, you don't get an answer, according to posts at 348-409.com
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Is this the block that is basically a BBC (crank, timing chain, timing cover, etc.) that uses W style heads?
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Yes. It's essentially a BBC that's been modified to match the W-engine's angled deck. Not really a "409" block, IMHO.

If I'm not mistaken, the Bob Walla Racing (BWR) blocks will be visually identical to the OE blocks. I'll be buying one of Bob's blocks before I buy a Walden/World block; just like how I purchased a pair of Bob's heads over a pair of Edelbrock's. Support the little guy who's in it for the love of the engine instead of making $$$.
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Yes. It's essentially a BBC that's been modified to match the W-engine's angled deck. Not really a "409" block, IMHO.

If I'm not mistaken, the Bob Walla Racing (BWR) blocks will be visually identical to the OE blocks. I'll be buying one of Bob's blocks before I buy a Walden/World block; just like how I purchased a pair of Bob's heads over a pair of Edelbrock's. Support the little guy who's in it for the love of the engine instead of making $$$.
Lamar Walden is the man that is in it for the love of the engine. If you've ever met the man or have seen his operation you'd understand that. He been racing all his life with 409s and knows them inside and out. He is a great guy. I bet a 10 minute converstation about what went into the deisgn of that block would blow you away. I bet he put lots of tricks in there to improve the original design. Every time I am over there he'll tell you a story or teach you something when you go buy the mill machine or one of the blocks he's working on. I love stopping by there.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:20 AM   #18
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.....billet.

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Old 11-24-2009, 11:27 AM   #19
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Yes. It's essentially a BBC that's been modified to match the W-engine's angled deck. Not really a "409" block, IMHO.

If I'm not mistaken, the Bob Walla Racing (BWR) blocks will be visually identical to the OE blocks. I'll be buying one of Bob's blocks before I buy a Walden/World block; just like how I purchased a pair of Bob's heads over a pair of Edelbrock's. Support the little guy who's in it for the love of the engine instead of making $$$.
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