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FNG
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Loomis, CA
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Can any of you fellows give me a How-To for using water glass to seal my radiator? I stopped using the car after the radiator leaked terribly...and now it's been sitting for about a year and a half. I want to try the water glass, and I'm off to get a new battery...but should I allow the engine to run and add water to the radiator first??? Should the engine be hot, or is it OK to pour the water glass in when it's cold? Do I need to be actively driving the car after I put the jar of water glass in the radiator or can I just take it for a drive then let it sit? If you wouldn't mind answering these questions and giving me a step by step How-To on this procedure I'd really appreciate it!!
Thanks for letting me invade your "guy" message board to get some help with this!! Patooti #1 |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Eagle Rock CA
Posts: 2,648
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That stuff was used to "seize" engines in cars turned in for the cfc program.......
Where is the radiator leaking? How bad is it leaking? I'd have the Radiator rebuilt instead of trying that. I did a quick search and there's a Radiator shop in Roseville. Roseville Radiator 832 Atlantic St, Roseville, CA I'll be back in Rocklin tomorrow and can stop by and help if you need it. Last edited by 61TBird; 11-22-2009 at 04:13 PM. |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: central Pa.
Posts: 5,106
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Go to a real radiator shop and get it fixed. A freind experimented with water glass in a single cylinder engine. He turned it over with an impact wrench and it got so tight it sheared off the teeth on the camshaft. Do you want the water pump to seize up like that??
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Alliance Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: HENDERSON, NV
Posts: 2,406
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Water glass is sodium silicate, it is prepared by fusing sodium or potassium carbonate with sand. Are you sure you want to put that in your engine/radiator? Just take it to a radiator shop to have it fixed.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: S.E.Michigan
Posts: 4,398
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A proper repair is best. No worries then.
I read a review about this stuff. I wonder if anyone here has ever used it? http://www.nanotechproject.org/inven...products/5353/
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 2,523
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'Never heard of anybody using it to fix a RADIATOR-after all, a radiator is fairly simple to remove and have repaired. Leaky or cracked blocks are another matter-lotsa work to remove and have repaired thus fixes like water glass. It was known to seal up cracks but you had to keep it wet. If you allowed the water level to fall below the top of the core in the radiator, the stuff would seal off the tubes.
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BANNED
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: colorado
Posts: 4,553
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Best way to repair a radiator, if it don't have plastic tanks, it to solder it.
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BANNED
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Waxahachie
Posts: 1,522
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SAY WHAT?...patoot pour that crap in your radiator, and kiss your engine good by.what dimention are you from, because i know your not from this REALITY. man you just screwed up my mind for weeks. heaven help a fool, and i'am not talking about you...POP.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 2,661
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I've used it many times. Usually in an engine that isn't worth a lot of work, just to get a leaker back on the road for a summer or so. One Y block had a leaking head gasket, tore it down a year or so later, and the head wouldn't come off! We tried everything but dynamite! Even put the starter back on and spun it over, the compression didn't budge it. That stuff sticks!
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Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: S.W. Missouri
Posts: 825
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Never used it but my dad said that it works if you do not mix it with antifreeze. Then it supposidly turns into a solid chunk of goo that don't move.
But don't take my word, try it yourself!!! Lol! Naaaa, go to a rad shop! |
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Scottsdale Arizona
Posts: 51
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The used to use water glass to seal and preserve eggs back in the way olden days.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Atl Ga
Posts: 5,692
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I've heard of guys using it on race engines when they have a porosity problem on aluminum cylinder heads from getting the ports too big.
But in the wrong hands (YOURS!) it's death to an engine. -Brad
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Corsicana TEXAS
Posts: 2,963
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I can't believe he aint catching shit for not doing a intro !
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: somewhere in Canada,today
Posts: 1,105
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I used it back a LONG time ago to seal a leaky rad..that shit worked..
Not the real cure ,but got me home.. Rick |
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 518
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If it was a slight drip, or even something close, you MAY have a few alternative solutions, but I take your words as a BIG ASS LEAK. Gotta pull that rad. and have it repaired. At a radiator shop. You know how murphy's law works......
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Guthrie, Oklahoma
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tehachapi, Ca.
Posts: 143
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Water glass is also known as "egg keep". It's used to seal egg shells before shipping. We used it very often in the dark ages of the early '60's when we could barely afford gas let alone rad repairs. Bought the stuff at drug stores, started the car, poured it in by the quart and off we would go. It would seal pretty quick and if not, we scrounged up the bucks to fix the radiator. I thought it was funny that, I believe, Prestone came out years later with a commercial where they punched holes in an antifreeze can and the leaks would stop about 2 holes behind the one they were punching at the time. They claimed that there was a special "sodium silicate" formula in the antifreeze. We just laighed and said that egg keep strikes again only with a fancy name now.
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 518
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Either way, you could do more harm than good if you don't go for the correct repair, patootie #1.
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rocklin, Ca, USA Longitude:-121.3; Latitude: 38.8 US
Posts: 287
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first off, what kind of ride you roll'in, second I took the radiator out of the 50 wayfarer I bought in salt lake was going to drive home with wife and truck in tow, road testing car about a half hour, got back counted out the cash, and started for home a mile away the front top of the radiator blew..the tool had a 18 lb car on a radiator that should of had a 4lb, ok so I tow dolly that moose home. But after looking all over, ebay, craigs list, all the custom guys AFTER I went to roseville radiator who said..oh that can't be fixed, a kat at napa and a friend who owner operates long haul told me of Mark at Servicecenter Radiator in Auburn (a couple of miles north of you) boogyed over Mark looked at it, and said no problem, had it repaired sweet in 2 days, and could had hosed me , cause I was quoted 5 bills plus on a custom..no market for dodge stuff.. I paid 140.00 cash.. it worked and looked awsume. The first hotrod guy I met 4 months ago moving up here, and he runs the auburn hot rod cruz nights. You give him a call, and tell him the dude in rocklin with the dodge sent ya, my buddy has him do his petebuilts radiators and thats good enough for me. Mark is a hotrod kat and friend. 530 885 2282
110 Borland Ave, Auburn.. good luck..see ya at a show. dave
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rocklin, Ca, USA Longitude:-121.3; Latitude: 38.8 US
Posts: 287
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hey, maybe they saw the McGriver show, where he was trying to get away, and there was this old army jeep with bullet holes in the radiator, and there were some chicken, he got their eggs, after he filled the radiator with what water he could, stated the engine with like the sparks from two rocks or something, then as it started to heat up, he cracked the eggs, put them in the radiator, they began to get hard, plug the radiator holes and he was away and safe as always.. yea..thats the ticket..
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