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Old 11-09-2009, 05:11 PM   #41
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The cams have a notch on the rear journal.

There are two oil holes in the journal. When the notch comes around, the circuit is completed and a squirt of oil goes into the valvetrain. Kind of a pain in the ass when you try to get a new cam. You can simply notch any new cam or grind a notch in between the two holes and install a modern one hole bearing. You'll also have constant pressure.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:12 PM   #42
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Cool stuff, I used the 097 cam and loved it. I had a 283 that would rev 8k and was a great motor tuned by Johnny Marsh who was a chevy small block wizard and worked on plenty of Speedy Bill Smiths race cars. He could tweek a dual point distributer for super performance also. Loved those solid lifters hammering away as I loped thru the drive inn's lookin for a drag race. Had no issues with driving it on the street and loved the killer sound of it. Oh!! the good old days!! ~Sololobo~
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:40 PM   #43
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It looks like you are on the right path. I can't believe that there are still people who constantly don't read the whole thread before offering advice or offering parts for sale that aren't consistent with what you are trying to do.

The staggered bolt powerpack heads shouldn't be that hard to find but expect to have to do a lot of work to most of them you find. That was a pretty standard swap for the 56 265 guys back in the day but you also had to change to notched pistons when you put the bigger cam and bigger valves in it. I knew more than one guy who picked up a 30-30 cam and the had to change pistons after the valves hit the tops of the pistons. I think I would have gone with a 283 just for the ease of finding goodies for it but this is cool.

Inside the engine I'd use new tech where I could, especially with the valve train and valve springs. Who ever you get your cam from should be able to sell you a matching set of springs and proper retainers and what not that will work great.

The old solid lifter cams are cool sounding but most of us gave them up because we got tired of spending every Saturday morning adjusting the valves after a week of driving the car. 57 Panel in my case with a hot 327 that I wish I had now.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:45 PM   #44
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When I built my '34 coupe , I was trying to do it in a way that would reflect how I might have built it in 1957. Just as if I had been 18 in 57! Since my Pops was a Chevrolet mechanic, getting a "new" Chevy V8 would have been a must...so I tried to make my 265 look like it had just been pulled out of '56 Chevy. The only year they were painted red.

So here's my "original 265. '57 block, .040 over with a 300hp 327 hydraulic lifter cam. I thought in a smaller displacement engine this cam would sound a little hotter than it does, second time around I'd probably try the 350hp 327 or similar. Anyway, '58 Corvette intake and rebuilt WCFB, '56 Corvette heads and single point diz. Generator and glass sediment bulb fuel filter, '58 ram's horn exhaust and modified '56(?)air cleaner finish it off.

This motor pulls the '34 nicely, revs quick and cruises easily at 70. I like it and I think you will like yours too!! Good Luck


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Old 11-09-2009, 05:47 PM   #45
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I'm also going for a "plucked from the junkyard in '58" with my 283. There is some good info here. That Hot Rod article is sweet!

The only thing mine was missing was the road draft tube. It had been plugged and I felt like I needed to have one. It took me a year- and-a-half to find a good one. Sheesh! Good luck with yours, and I will be watching.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:11 PM   #46
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why build the smallest motor out there, a327 would look good,
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:21 PM   #47
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I have decided to go ahead and get the exact engine that I want in my '35 coupe instead of screwing around with the late 350. After a month of searching I found a 1956 265 2bbl engine relatively near me from a fellow HAMB member. The engine is going to need a complete rebuild as it has been sitting for nearly 35 years in a garage on an engine stand.

What I would like to know is the tips and tricks for making this thing a warm little motor. I am not looking for huge horsepower just a little bump while making it reliable and cool sounding while also sticking to a 56-59 period. I would like the outward appearance to be of a stock Corvette engine freshly plucked from a wrecked car. I have searched and read everything available on the HAMB concerning these engines and have also went through all of my older magazines.

I want to know about all the tricks and parts that guys were using back then. Anything you have to offer is welcome!!!

What I have to use thus far....

--'59 Corvette 4bbl intake with matching WCFB carb and all the dressings.
--Original Hurst Cradle Mount
--Crager or Offy tranny adapter to a '39 Ford

I plan on having the engine rebuilt, decked, machined, etc and perhaps punched out .125 to a 283 which I believe was a common thing to do in the day. I also know about the rear cam journal being notch which is something that I hope the machinist knows more about then I do. What else are you guys running???





Also does anyone have this book? I found this ad in a mid 50's to early 60's Hot Rod magazine. I think it could help a bunch!!!
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:07 PM   #48
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only the 4bbl 283 used the power pack heads...the 2bbl engines had similar heads with larger chambers.

I think I have part 2 of the story, I'll see
Based on these stories heres what I found. Hope everyone enjoys this.
Compression ratio options kept going up and up every year and the over the counter stuff got better too with every year ending in 57.

You can read the rest of the stuff here and also the Mculloch super charger options if you had deep pockets. click!


1955 Chevy 265, Edelbrock tri power intake, other factory goodies, Mculloch twin supercharger set up.


1955
All new 265 “ v8 with 8.0:1 compression in 3 configurations.
Base -Turbo Fire 2brl 162hp
Optional (Power- Pack) Super Turbo Fire 4brl 180hp
Corvette racing edition rated 195hp with added Corvette camshaft and springs to the Power- Pack version.

Factory Power Kit: They could supply you with an over the counter 4 throat carburetor with matching intake manifold and dual exhaust system for a much lower price.


1956 Updates: 4 different 265 engines
Base -Turbo Fire 2brl 162hp
Turbo Fire 2brl 170hp (automatic)
Super Turbo Fire 4brl 205hp (improved cyl. Heads increase in compression 9.25:1)
Corvette racing edition 225hp with “new” twin four barrel carburetor
optional late in the year RPO "449" Duntov camshaft 240hp.

Factory Power Kit:
The much awaited twin four barrel carburetor/ aluminum intake setup and “Special High- Lift Camshaft” a solid lifter type known as the “Duntov” camshaft, and improved Super Turbo Fire cyl. Heads.

1957 Updates: 7 small block v8 configurations.
The “new” engine a bored out version of the 265 now displacing 283 cu. in. was available.

Base -265 Turbo Fire 8.0:1cr 2brl 162hp
Base -283 Turbo Fire 8.5:1cr 2brl 185hp
Super Turbo Fire 9.5:1cr 4brl 220hp
Super Turbo Fire 9.5:1cr (2x4 carbs) 245hp
Super Turbo Fire 9.5:1 (Fuel Injection) 250hp

(Corvette Racing Editions)
Base -283 10.5:1cr (2x4 carbs/ Duntov solid) 270hp
Super Turbo Fire 283 10.5:1cr (Fuel Injection/Duntov solid) 283hp

Factory Power Kit:
All new 283 small block, costly “Ram-Jet fuel injection /twin four barrel carburetor/ aluminum intake, Duntov solid camshaft, Super Turbo Fire Hyd. Camshaft, and revised Super Turbo Fire cyl Heads in F.I or 2x4 setup.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:44 PM   #49
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one more fun scan....1959 chevy parts book listing for cylinder heads. Those 550s I have are interesting, they have bolt holes on one end, I think for the air suspension compressor bracket.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:16 PM   #50
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one more fun scan....1959 chevy parts book listing for cylinder heads. Those 550s I have are interesting, they have bolt holes on one end, I think for the air suspension compressor bracket.
I have a set like that. They have 58x cast into the side and have bosses on one end that look like late model heads. They have nice ports.

I've found on the heads that came with 1.72 intake valves the intake runners are narrow around the guide bosses. The runners match a 1.88 valve from the 305 4brl heads better then a 1.94 valve. Don't be to bashfull decking the block or milling the heads. Compression is hard to build into the small cube engines, and it makes all the difference when you add a bigger cam. You can angle mill these heads a long ways since they don't have the cooling holes around the sparkplugs. A zero deck would help a bunch.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:58 AM   #51
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When I built my '34 coupe , I was trying to do it in a way that would reflect how I might have built it in 1957. Just as if I had been 18 in 57! Since my Pops was a Chevrolet mechanic, getting a "new" Chevy V8 would have been a must...so I tried to make my 265 look like it had just been pulled out of '56 Chevy. The only year they were painted red.

So here's my "original 265. '57 block, .040 over with a 300hp 327 hydraulic lifter cam. I thought in a smaller displacement engine this cam would sound a little hotter than it does, second time around I'd probably try the 350hp 327 or similar. Anyway, '58 Corvette intake and rebuilt WCFB, '56 Corvette heads and single point diz. Generator and glass sediment bulb fuel filter, '58 ram's horn exhaust and modified '56(?)air cleaner finish it off.

This motor pulls the '34 nicely, revs quick and cruises easily at 70. I like it and I think you will like yours too!! Good Luck


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That's exactly what I'm going for!! I keep an eye out for the cams and heads you have.

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I'm also going for a "plucked from the junkyard in '58" with my 283. There is some good info here. That Hot Rod article is sweet!

The only thing mine was missing was the road draft tube. It had been plugged and I felt like I needed to have one. It took me a year- and-a-half to find a good one. Sheesh! Good luck with yours, and I will be watching.
I actually have the road draft tube and it's in perfect condition so I guess I am fortunate there. Your engine looks great too!

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why build the smallest motor out there, a327 would look good,
I should not have to explain why I chose this engine. And if I am using you logic a 572BB crate motor should be my logical choice. 327's are cool but not a mid 50's engine which is where I see my car.

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way to go
Thanks Alex!!!

Thanks to everyone for posting such great material. I still have not heard back from Bass so I went back and reread his thread on the build up of his 265. His machinists really know their shit. They did something so that the cam did not have to be machined for oiling. Can anyone expand on this?

I am not looking for the gnarliest motor this side of the Mississippi, but I would like something that would have been common in the mid to late 50's like in the articles that Squirrel posted. Thanks again and keep it coming!!!
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:01 PM   #52
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Another thing that I want to ask is what are some of the questions that I should start asking engine builders. This is the first engine that I am having built and I would like to get the right people for the job to do the machining. People that have worked with this type of engine before would be preferable I guess.

Anybody know of someone that is relatively close to Charlotte that is versed in early Chevy v8 engines??
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:12 PM   #53
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In that don francisco book he talks about a good build on all out motor in '57 being a 283 block punched to 4" and stroked to 3 1/2.....so a 350....

Also talks about cutting chev 6 valves down to fit the head spacificly the 1.875's but not the 1.94's
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:22 PM   #54
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In that don francisco book he talks about a good build on all out motor in '57 being a 283 block punched to 4" and stroked to 3 1/2.....so a 350....

Also talks about cutting chev 6 valves down to fit the head spacificly the 1.875's but not the 1.94's
So what your saying is that the traditional thing to do is to run a 350??? Who would have thought?

I love the ingenuity back then. I would have never though about cutting Chevy 6 valves down or in another case using the Cadillac valves with a spacer. Neat shit!!!

I read in an mag the other day where the guy had a hopped up 265 in his hot rod that he preferred a 4 bbl intake with a Caddy Carter carb as opposed to a corvette dual quad and a three deuce setup. More of that ingenuity!!!
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:36 PM   #55
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Ok, now I'm subscribed.

I'm building a 265, punched to 283, for my modified and need to get some info.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:59 PM   #56
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One more bit of advice...if you go solid lifter cam, be sure and cross-pin the rocker arm studs or go with screw-in studs. The early model heads have press-in studs from the factory and a few high RPM times through the gears will start backing the studs out. This is the voice of experience from back in the day. I was adjusting valves weekly until I pinned the studs. The adjustment frequency got much longer after that.

-55 265 block, bored .125 with 283 pistons, 098 cam, 2 wcfb's on an early vette manifold, '58 power pack heads, corvette 2-1/2" cast iron exhaust manifolds, corvette dual point distributor, backed by a Chevy 3 speed and 4.11 gears in a '57 150 2 door. Sold it in 1970 and missed it every day since.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:14 PM   #57
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I certainly do not want to be adjusting valves on this thing every week so I am definitely taking notes!
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:34 PM   #58
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I remember an .097 solid lifter for the 265 and an .098 for the 283. Might be off a little but you do have to notch the rear of the cam. My last 265 which was recent, i put an HEI in it with no problems. The 30-30 cam is way to much and you will not be happy with it.Those solid lifter motors were sweet sounding and would really rev. Like the other guys said, a little cleanup bore and change oil regularly and you are good to go.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:40 PM   #59
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Good thread, I have all the goodies to to a large cube (sounds like an oxymoron to me) 265.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:15 PM   #60
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If you bore it out to 283 you can get new domed pistons from Keith Black that have a 4cc dome. The 2 barrel heads have a 67.424 combuston chamber. This will give you 9 to 9.5 CR depending on if the heads have been milled. I think this is just right for pump gas. Also I would use the old 097 Duntov cam. It's not too radical and sounds great.
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