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Old 10-29-2009, 10:32 AM   #1
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30 roadster highboy will have to run duel master cylinders and hanging peddles , just not enough room for everything on the left side, 32 frame 430 Lincoln and top loader 4 speed, will probably even have to run a hydraulic throw out bearing.Mustang steering box and want to keep the exhaust inside the frame.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:52 AM   #2
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Man I'm with you... that's a lot of stuff to stuff in a roadster!
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:50 AM   #3
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Are you asking what hanging pedals are out there? I'm guessing you want the masters under the dash, right?
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:57 AM   #4
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there is plenty of room for anything you want. it all depends on how creative you are.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:02 PM   #5
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I've often wondered how in the hell you fill those under the dash master cylinders without spilling the fluid all over the place. Do you have a remote fill and reservoir or what?
I've got old style thru the floor pedals on my projest and it's a bitch to fit around the pedal arms with the floorboards.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:48 PM   #6
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They make some that are like the old VW style peddles that bolt to the floor . Could use under the floor set up like a 40 Ford . Look in the Speedway catalog , they have all kinds of things like that . You could always pay the high price for the fancy street rod crap . The master cylinders that go under the dash work real good . Lots of options , just look at different ones on line or in catalogs and see what would fork best for you . This is hot rodding so you have to make things fit and not always buy ones that are made to fit .

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Old 10-29-2009, 12:54 PM   #7
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Swinging pedals gets my vote in most my builds.




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Old 10-29-2009, 01:02 PM   #8
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I've often wondered how in the hell you fill those under the dash master cylinders without spilling the fluid all over the place.
I agree. It sure seems like a shitty idea
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:03 PM   #9
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Swinging pedals gets my vote in most my builds.



Thats what i'm looking for , since its a high boy i will have room to mount the master cyl's on the firewall .
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:08 PM   #10
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There's nothing wrong with visible master cylinders on a HOT ROD.


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Old 10-29-2009, 01:11 PM   #11
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Whats the set up on the Green coupe?
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:20 PM   #12
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The green coupe has Ansen type pedals, and the master cylinder from an early 60's Chevy/GMC pickup with a stick trans, as half the master is for the clutch. The Ansen pedals I believe are re-popped, and are made to use directly with that master. If you go that route, I believe that master was under the floor in those trucks, and when mntd on the firewall (opposite direction from it's intended use)the dutys are reversed, so you'll have to take the residual check valve out of the brake side (it's marked brake-clutch) because THAT side will now apply the clutch
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:47 PM   #13
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The green coupe has Ansen type pedals, and the master cylinder from an early 60's Chevy/GMC pickup with a stick trans, as half the master is for the clutch. The Ansen pedals I believe are re-popped, and are made to use directly with that master. If you go that route, I believe that master was under the floor in those trucks, and when mntd on the firewall (opposite direction from it's intended use)the dutys are reversed, so you'll have to take the residual check valve out of the brake side (it's marked brake-clutch) because THAT side will now apply the clutch
Thanks appriciate the info! Going after'um..
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:16 PM   #14
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Groucho, years ago I had a '62 Chev 3/4 ton p'up and IIRC that dual cylinder was on the firewall like it is on your green car.
My roadster was started by someone else from a Brookville body and rolling chassis package. The 39/40 Ford setup was already in it, so I decided to use it. But tell you what, by the time I got thru fitting sheetmetal around those damn pedal arms, I was wishing I had jerked those damn old style pedals out and hung swinging pedals with fire wall mounted cylinders.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:23 PM   #15
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This is interesting.Have a gasser project this might be the right plan for.Any more pics of setups like this?
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:59 PM   #16
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I installed Wilwood hanging pedals, with the M/C's on the outside. There's no need for a proportioning valve because the pedal set-up has an integral balance bar, or a residual valve because of the M/C height. They're a bit pricey & a P.I.A. to install & brace, but they seem to have worked out O.K. after all was said & done.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:19 PM   #17
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Really if you can find a car you can slice into, most hanging pedal setups are similar to one another, they use the same bolt patterns on the firewall side. Just a matter of how old as to what the pedals look like.

They can be ugly but if you spend a lot of time with your legs in the air to look under the dash to see it you're probably concerned much more with some other activity at that moment.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:24 PM   #18
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I put ansen style hangers in my hot rod with a 60s chevy master and its great.
I did an install with photos check the link to my web site for more info
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:33 PM   #19
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There's nothing wrong with visible master cylinders on a HOT ROD.


Visible master cylinder......invisible engine...lol!
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:00 AM   #20
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Luckys has a nice setup and they are an alliance vendor:

http://www.luckys-speed-shop.com/hr_new_products.htm
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:37 PM   #21
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Lucky's set up is an improved version of the old Ansen hanging pedals. Much better reinforced and comes with the master and brake light switch.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:21 PM   #22
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30 roadster highboy will have to run duel master cylinders and hanging peddles , just not enough room for everything on the left side, 32 frame 430 Lincoln and top loader 4 speed, will probably even have to run a hydraulic throw out bearing.Mustang steering box and want to keep the exhaust inside the frame.
These are expensive but Neal hydraulic pedals are way cool,I've used in stock cars and off road buggies,you might find used on flea bay or an off road classified site.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:24 PM   #23
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Lucky's set up is an improved version of the old Ansen hanging pedals. Much better reinforced and comes with the master and brake light switch.
Here is a PDF with the details.

http://www.drive-topless.com/Pedal%20Features.pdf
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:28 PM   #24
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What about a hanging peddle system w/o the clutch? What kind of master would you use?
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:31 PM   #25
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Ansen Pedals, look at teh ones Titus sells, mo better price than Luckys

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ighlight=ansen
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Another good thread

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ighlight=ansen
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:51 PM   #27
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Are the 60'S Truck master cylinders still availble at parts stores? Who has them?
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:55 PM   #28
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I put Swingers in mine. 3 masters all under the dash of my T RPU

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Old 03-06-2010, 09:04 PM   #29
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Are the 60'S Truck master cylinders still availble at parts stores? Who has them?
yes they are, all of em have em, cardone part number 10-34404, or they should be able to cross the number, they are available reman or new.

heres a pic of the pedal assembly i sell, $125 shipped, master is not included.

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good looking set up--almost looks comfortable. I'm waffling right now about whether I can fit my fat ass in and work three pedals with it chopped and channeled--I'm not as spry as last time I built it.

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I installed Wilwood hanging pedals, with the M/C's on the outside. There's no need for a proportioning valve because the pedal set-up has an integral balance bar, or a residual valve because of the M/C height. They're a bit pricey & a P.I.A. to install & brace, but they seem to have worked out O.K. after all was said & done.
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I've always been fond of falcon/mustang assemblies. the bolt right in to several early applications with very little modification and you can use the late (67 ish) dual resevoir units.


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Old 03-06-2010, 09:29 PM   #32
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Glad this isnt a Toyota thread............On a more serious note check out an MG midget, they keep the Hyd Clutch and Brake master in this tidy little H box.....could be adapted to something else pretty easily........as long as you don't need a vacuum booster.
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This hanging pedal setup is a stock Ford Econoline unit I have used since 1962, the entire unit fits under the cowl area & incorporates both hyd. clutch & brakes master cyls. on engine side of firewall.----Don
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