The Jalopy Journal

**Jive-Bomber** · 10-27-2009, 09:01 AM

I don't know how many of you are familiar with Octane magazine out of the UK, but its a very high end, glossy monthly with great photos and articles, mainly on classic European racing and sports cars. I caught this fantastic article in the October is...

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**Mr48chev** · 10-27-2009, 09:06 AM

It's amazing what a bit of ingenuity will create when a few guys decide to go racing.

I see a lot of things on that car that a lot of guys think of as being relatively recent idea and yet they were used on a car that is now 80 years old.

Special Ed · 10-27-2009, 09:09 AM

Yeah, Octane magazine is a good read. I was even fortunate enough to have my own car featured in it. Some interesting, and different cars in there! That Bloody Mary car is too cool!

**woodbox** · 10-27-2009, 09:13 AM

"By crikey" sounds like these two fellows were a couple of right propper rascals eh?

**model.A.keith** · 10-27-2009, 09:40 AM

The car was at Shelsley Walsh earlier this year doing some 'demonstration' runs up the hill

car was taken out of 'hibernation' for the event,

turns out that the crankcase on one of the engines is in about a dozen or so pieces and had been temporarily tacked together to get it running

I understand that 'funds permitting' it may be restored to a more useable condition.

still great to see the car at a real historic venue.

.

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Rootie Kazoootie · 10-27-2009, 09:44 AM

There's a couple of vids on youtube of the car at Prescott:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHC7_vV6zDU

Ned Ludd · 10-27-2009, 10:10 AM

Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod.

Nads · 10-27-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ned Ludd

Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod.

Erm, Doane.

That thing sounds like a squadron of angry wasps.

Artiki · 10-27-2009, 10:54 AM

Hardcore. Pure and simple.

**Tman** · 10-27-2009, 11:02 AM

Sounds nasty!

**Asphalt Outlaw Hero** · 10-27-2009, 11:14 AM

JAP V twins were THE pre-war V twin motors in England and Europe. Brough-Superior used them until around 1936.Lots of record attempts were done using them.
Morgan used wooden frames for a long time.Actually stronger and more flexible than steel ( don't try to Z it though

).
Great story.

KolkataKustoms · 10-27-2009, 12:27 PM

The earliest Fords had wood frames as well. Including Henry's race car the 999. I love these real oldies. Is this the next level of rat rod? Wood frame, maybe even air cooled roadsters. You notice that the only fender on the Bloody Mary car is the one next to the driver, asymetricly stripped down roadster is very cool.

I've seen the 999 several times at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It set a landspeed record on Lake St. Clair in 1904. 91 mph. How Cool is that?

**SAVAGE** · 10-27-2009, 12:39 PM

Awesome

monkeybiker · 10-27-2009, 12:55 PM

Bloody Mary lost her engines temporarily - they lived here briefly...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2904375...7608892153628/

fur biscuit · 10-27-2009, 01:46 PM

"the corners are no problem, it's those tricky straight bits in between"

**60'shotrod** · 10-27-2009, 01:48 PM

Us Brits can do something RIGHT!

Nick.

Mart · 10-27-2009, 03:51 PM

Diggin it a lot. Like the extra frame rail straight up the middle.
Well guys, there's a set of plans there....

**22dodge** · 10-27-2009, 04:12 PM

Awesome car. Always had a "thing" for cycle cars...

Thanks for the article, Jive Bomber.

**lakester47** · 10-27-2009, 06:35 PM

Bloody Mary has always intrigued me. Glad to see it on the HAMB. Low buck, low tech, high ingenuity, and high results, isn't that what hot rodding is all about? Can you imagine a conversation between John Bolster and Bob Rufi?

Piper106 · 10-27-2009, 06:48 PM

I've had an interest since I read the Profile Publication booklet on 'Bloody Mary' about 35 years ago in the local library.

Two big motorcycle V-twin engines and as I recall only about 800 pounds... must need nerves of steel to drive that thing... Or maybe as the British say you need to be 'a little daft'... maybe both.

Piper106

Question for today. I recall Bloody Mary being listed as 7 cwt plus a few pounds. Why are there a 110 pounds in a British 'hundred weight' (cwt)???

10-27-2009, 09:01 AM	#1
Jive-Bomber Alliance Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oaktown, Ca Posts: 2,018	Bloody Mary I don't know how many of you are familiar with Octane magazine out of the UK, but its a very high end, glossy monthly with great photos and articles, mainly on classic European racing and sports cars. I caught this fantastic article in the October is... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Jalopy Journal, click here.

10-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#2
Mr48chev Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 5,621	Re: Bloody Mary It's amazing what a bit of ingenuity will create when a few guys decide to go racing. I see a lot of things on that car that a lot of guys think of as being relatively recent idea and yet they were used on a car that is now 80 years old. __________________ If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else's dog around...

10-27-2009, 09:09 AM	#3
Special Ed Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N. San Diego county Posts: 1,682	Re: Bloody Mary Yeah, Octane magazine is a good read. I was even fortunate enough to have my own car featured in it. Some interesting, and different cars in there! That Bloody Mary car is too cool! Last edited by TotallyCustom; 10-27-2009 at 12:52 PM.

10-27-2009, 09:13 AM	#4
woodbox Alliance Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Whangarei New Zealand Posts: 191	Re: Bloody Mary "By crikey" sounds like these two fellows were a couple of right propper rascals eh? __________________ There is only one sure thing in this life.....and that's doubt.....I think!

10-27-2009, 09:40 AM	#5
model.A.keith Alliance Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: st.uk in the middle Posts: 1,857	Re: Bloody Mary The car was at Shelsley Walsh earlier this year doing some 'demonstration' runs up the hill car was taken out of 'hibernation' for the event, turns out that the crankcase on one of the engines is in about a dozen or so pieces and had been temporarily tacked together to get it running I understand that 'funds permitting' it may be restored to a more useable condition. still great to see the car at a real historic venue. . . __________________ 28A Coupe 28AR Roadster I might be old, but I ain't dead yet Last edited by model.A.keith; 10-27-2009 at 10:35 AM. Reason: added picture

10-27-2009, 09:44 AM	#6
Rootie Kazoootie Old School HAMBer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,354	Re: Bloody Mary There's a couple of vids on youtube of the car at Prescott: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHC7_vV6zDU Attached Thumbnails

10-27-2009, 10:10 AM	#7
Ned Ludd Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 597	Re: Bloody Mary Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod. __________________ Dawie '58 Morris Minor '31 A project http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/artisanalcars/

10-27-2009, 10:54 AM	#9
Artiki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brum... Posts: 1,904	Re: Bloody Mary Hardcore. Pure and simple. __________________ www.flatheadmeltdown.com - Home of the world's quickest street flatheads and four-bangers.

10-27-2009, 11:02 AM	#10
Tman Alliance Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Black Hills Posts: 20,889	Re: Bloody Mary Sounds nasty! __________________ www.vagabonds.cc Wanted, 50s Caddilac heads.

10-27-2009, 11:14 AM	#11
Asphalt Outlaw Hero Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dixie Posts: 702	Re: Bloody Mary JAP V twins were THE pre-war V twin motors in England and Europe. Brough-Superior used them until around 1936.Lots of record attempts were done using them. Morgan used wooden frames for a long time.Actually stronger and more flexible than steel ( don't try to Z it though). Great story.

10-27-2009, 12:27 PM	#12
KolkataKustoms FNG Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lopez Island WA Posts: 6	Re: Bloody Mary The earliest Fords had wood frames as well. Including Henry's race car the 999. I love these real oldies. Is this the next level of rat rod? Wood frame, maybe even air cooled roadsters. You notice that the only fender on the Bloody Mary car is the one next to the driver, asymetricly stripped down roadster is very cool. I've seen the 999 several times at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It set a landspeed record on Lake St. Clair in 1904. 91 mph. How Cool is that?

10-27-2009, 12:39 PM	#13
SAVAGE Alliance Vendor Join Date: May 2002 Location: LOS GATOS CALIF USA Posts: 795	Re: Bloody Mary Awesome __________________ www.savagespeedgarage.com AARON VON MINDEN www.themcarclub.com

10-27-2009, 12:55 PM	#14
monkeybiker Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Flatlands of Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,008	Re: Bloody Mary Bloody Mary lost her engines temporarily - they lived here briefly... http://www.flickr.com/photos/2904375...7608892153628/ __________________ "Tradition is a guide and not a jailer." W. Somerset Maugham

10-27-2009, 01:46 PM	#15
fur biscuit Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: corner of 23rd and Cutting Posts: 5,810	Re: Bloody Mary "the corners are no problem, it's those tricky straight bits in between" __________________ nothing left but the razor burn.

10-27-2009, 01:48 PM	#16
60'shotrod Alliance Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Wales Posts: 2,745	Re: Bloody Mary Us Brits can do something RIGHT! Nick. __________________ The closer you are to Caesar, the greater the fear. http://www.vhra.co.uk/VHRA/Home.html

10-27-2009, 03:51 PM	#17
Mart Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 1,227	Re: Bloody Mary Diggin it a lot. Like the extra frame rail straight up the middle. Well guys, there's a set of plans there.... __________________ Visit my website: www.martsrods.com

10-27-2009, 04:12 PM	#18
22dodge Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 233	Re: Bloody Mary Awesome car. Always had a "thing" for cycle cars... Thanks for the article, Jive Bomber. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/kenfusedagain

10-27-2009, 06:35 PM	#19
lakester47 Alliance Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 77	Re: Bloody Mary Bloody Mary has always intrigued me. Glad to see it on the HAMB. Low buck, low tech, high ingenuity, and high results, isn't that what hot rodding is all about? Can you imagine a conversation between John Bolster and Bob Rufi?

10-27-2009, 06:48 PM	#20
Piper106 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Livonia MI Posts: 84	Re: Bloody Mary I've had an interest since I read the Profile Publication booklet on 'Bloody Mary' about 35 years ago in the local library. Two big motorcycle V-twin engines and as I recall only about 800 pounds... must need nerves of steel to drive that thing... Or maybe as the British say you need to be 'a little daft'... maybe both. Piper106 Question for today. I recall Bloody Mary being listed as 7 cwt plus a few pounds. Why are there a 110 pounds in a British 'hundred weight' (cwt)???

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