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Old 10-05-2009, 08:26 PM   #1
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Moving right along on me sedan

i have the frame all together and tacked, nice and level.


heres one with the body next to the frame, just to give you an idea.

the previous owner (old man) filled in a couple rust holes with bondo, i made some patches, welded them in and did bodywork up to 80 grit for now.


im thinking of going to do the whole body self etching primer color (tint epoxy primer)
what do you think?


I ordered the rod ends and bungs from speedway and my uncle got me a set of 40 ford spindles
the ford van rearend is getting picked up tomorrow
so she should be a roller in a couple weeks.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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Originally a 4 door? Looks cool.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:05 PM   #3
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If you put the spring behind the rear end,
you wouldn't need that big of kick in the rear.

What do you plan for a rear suspension?
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:11 PM   #4
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In the back im going with some brand new 60's gm coils i found in the back of my uncles garage
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:11 PM   #5
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Yep its originally a four door
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:20 PM   #6
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hey looks great
what motor trans combo you plannin
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:23 PM   #7
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Small block chevy with a three speed out of a 68 chevy truck, not the greatest but its what i can afford.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:47 PM   #8
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waiting on some rod ends
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:53 PM   #9
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Car is is looking good ! I guess you want it low slung . . . . I agree that you may want to revise the "Z" in the back. Are you going to use the coils in conjunction with a modified Chevy truck arm suspension ? Keep up the good work.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:01 PM   #10
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Man that Z is HUGE!!! Only reason I know is cuz I started out w/ 16" went to 14" and ended up at 12"... If you do it 3 time you learn, right... ;-)

It is looking good.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:05 PM   #11
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What are you plans for the back window sides. I have a four door and that looks kewl, but are the side windows going to be fixed, will they roll down or not run window at all.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:03 AM   #12
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its going to be one big back window filled in with metal, not smoothed out alol the way. for the back, a friend of mine found some ladder bars in the trash so im running those
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:24 PM   #13
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woooooo rod ends/bungs
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:30 PM   #14
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looks SICK man loving the long window
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #15
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thanks oldskew
that was the biggest thing with the project, leave it a fourdoor or make a big ol window
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:35 PM   #16
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how did you manage that anyhow? just weld the door shut and cut out the pillar??
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:37 PM   #17
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yeah, i put in some plates inside to hold things together
right now im working on the pieces so its nice and smooth where the pillar used to be
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:55 PM   #18
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I cannot imagine 60's GM coils would be remotely the correct spring rate. Odds are they're way too stiff. What are the out of?
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:57 PM   #19
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chevelle
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:00 PM   #20
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i think chevelle
is there a way to tell

what happens if they are too stiff?
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:06 PM   #21
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doesnt a 29 A have a? body line in the cowl Isnt that a 30-31?
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:13 PM   #22
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its a town sedan, they have a different cowl and some different lines
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:13 PM   #23
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this is a 29 town sedan i found on carnut
http://carnut.com/cgi-bin/07/image.p...ie/pic2186.jpg
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:13 AM   #24
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i think chevelle
is there a way to tell

what happens if they are too stiff?

Well, your teeth will get broken and the rest of the car will cop a hammering too.

The heavier the car, the stronger the springs ned to be, the lighter the car the softer the springs. On late model cars the front ones are always heavier than the back ones because more weight is on the front of them.
The rear of an A isn't very heavy relatively speaking.

Look up a thread on here called 'how to build a traditional hot rod chassis', I think you'll learn a lot from it, there's a lot on information.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #25
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worked on the frame some, the perch is tacked together
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:01 PM   #26
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suicide mount....taken literally? looks questionable
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:19 PM   #27
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Please step away from the welder. That is scary.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:24 PM   #28
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suicide mount....taken literally? looks questionable
Very questionable. And I'd venture to say that when it is assembled it will need a trench for the oil pan.

I don't like to pick on anyone's builds but I can see a wreck in the making with that spring perch and wonder if it will stand up to the stresses of driving the car.
Also unless you plan to run extremely tall tires or have the oil pan up above the bottom of the frame and the engine high mounted I don't think that the pan will clear the ground when you get the car together.

I'm not even going to go into scrub lines as it obviously won't ride above the scrub line.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:32 PM   #29
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Very questionable. And I'd venture to say that when it is assembled it will need a trench for the oil pan.

I don't like to pick on anyone's builds but I can see a wreck in the making with that spring perch and wonder if it will stand up to the stresses of driving the car.
Also unless you plan to run extremely tall tires or have the oil pan up above the bottom of the frame and the engine high mounted I don't think that the pan will clear the ground when you get the car together.

I'm not even going to go into scrub lines as it obviously won't ride above the scrub line.
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Like where you were headed with the frame but should probably rethink that front perch. Looks like a disaster waiting to happen...
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:58 PM   #30
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This thread earned that 1 star rating. That chassis is rat-a-rific™. I really can't understand the stupid kick ups.

You have a unique enough body you don't need a ratrod chassis.
If you built your A with a stance like this Tudor below that will be a killer ride!!!
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:24 PM   #31
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worked on the frame some, the perch is tacked together
No offence, but thats just plain ass stupid, and this is coming from an 18 year old!

Rethink that front perch. Thats a wreck waiting to happen.

Get your motor and everything up on jackstands first, then start measuring.
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:23 PM   #32
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:02 PM   #33
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I wasnt finished but i guess ill cut it off and use the stock model a front cross member

its my first build
im only 17
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:05 PM   #34
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I can admit when im wrong, and i appreciate it when people tell me that i f'd up. thanks for steering me in the right direction
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Thats cool man. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. You've already got what looks like a 3"-4" kick in the front, that should be sufficient. Chop off that perch and start fresh. Like others have said, that springs gonna settle a bunch with the weight of the drivetrain in it.
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:43 PM   #36
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your best bed for keeping it low is one of the new dropped crossmember and a lowered, reversed-eye main leaf. the same can be said for the rear. you can keep your floors and lower the kick in the rear by about half if you switch to a 1940 rear spring with reversed eyes instead of the A spring. since it's a sedan, nobody will see it and there's no point in running one unless you are sticking a quickchange out back.
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