2 speed halibrand - what is it? what's it worth?

I know, I hate, "what's it worth," as much as you but I am truly stumped by this thing.
It looks to be set up for use with an in-and-out box, but I have never seen one cast like it. There is no carrier or ring and pinion in it. The input shaft is not machined. It was originally purchased by someone involved with Roger Penske for a Can Am car around 1964. Roger eventually gave it to a long term helper with race cars who eventually traded it to the current owner about 20 years ago for a set of headers.
I am posting this for a friend of mine, so my knowledge on it is limited. Can Am racing is completely foreign to me, but can these be used in drag cars or anything else that uses an in-and-out box? What is the shaft coming out of the back for? What is that pattern mean to bolt up to? Who would want this and what is the going rate?
Thanks in advance!
-drZ

 

I think I have seen pictures of one in an early rear engine period Indy car, one from the first several years after the Lotus Fords overturned the roadsters. If it is the kind I think, it contains a 2-speed to help the car out of the pits. Some Halibrands had a shifter that controlled just an in-out box function, one speed and nada.

 

I think the shaft in the back might be for a starter...

I don't think I'd run it in a drag car... I think it's set up for indipendent suspension...

It might work in a circle track car, but who runs mid or rear engined circle track cars?

Can Am was no rules, high dollar racing...

so it's probably strong and light and application specific...

Not sure what it's worth but you gotta think that to the right bidder, the sky's the limit...

Put it on ebay with a $2K reserve and see what happens...

I think if I couldn't at least get regular QC money for it, I'd keep it and build something around it.

 

Well, would that imply that it has synchros in order to shift?
This is all being posted for somebody else, it isn't mine so I can't play around with it and find out what stuff is/ does.

 

Indy car. Halibrand developed them for his r/e Shrike Indy car 1964. Google up Halibrand Shrike and you should find out more. Worth? to the right person, maybe quite a bit.

 

What he said....

 

I would think no synchros, either sliding gear or maybe more likely some kind of primitive dog clutch, whatever is compact and simple. It only shifts once per pitstop...not used in actual race. I've always thought that someone needs to build some sort of bolt on box extension for the V8 QC like this to allow selection between two sets...
Previous Offy 2-speed boxes in front engine cars used, I believe, straight cut sliding gears stolen from early Ford 4-speed truck trans!

 

It's actually a two speed transaxle. It bolts to a bell housing. The shaft on the left is the input shaft. shaft to the right is starter drive.

 

July 66 HRM:

 

Anyone have an exploded view, i wanta see how this thing works!!

 

Pat Warren made a 2 speed quick change & since his QC is a copy of halibrand the 2sp will bolt to the end. Here's a pic of my parts for the 2sp. I need the main shaft & the slider hub.

 

Looks like the shift hub in the pic might be early V8, one of the '32-37 types?

 

That is a rad part.

 

man thats a killer lookin quickchange! probably worth some big coin.

 

so, i guess this confirms it could be used with an early IRS system ...

 

Lets talk, I am interested.

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Quote of the day.

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I'm new here, and this is my first post, so be kind. And I'm going to try to attach some photos, which may or may not work. I might have to read some instructions.
Been following this thread for months and it's cost me hours and hours wasted/researching on the web trying to find more about the transaxle. Found a lot of contradictory stories, and a few photos not in the thread. Here's where a couple came from:
http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/208-Halibrand-Shrike Indy Car-Ford Twin Cam
http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/other/1108569815/1108569815pp.htm

Damn! I was sure I had more, but I can't find them. Too much junk on the old hard drive.

Let's see if this works, then I'll continue.

Bob in Santa Cruz

edit: photos didn't work. I'll try again.

HAH! Success.

 

Okay, now I'm an accomplished uploader. Here's mine:

 

What's it worth?? Haven't got a clue, except
that I know it's way more than I could ever
afford! But god, its gorgeous. If I had it, I
wouldn't know whether to try and use it for
something or to display it!

Mart3406
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Very Very cool. I know that 2 speeds on prewar Auburns are the nads cause you can shift on the fly. Makes driving a low geared car much more doable on the highways.

 

I have one for sale nice clean condition missing a few parts but I know where u can get them. Includes center section side bells main shaft and ring gear and carrier. 2500.00

 

Its a two speed overdrive rear end, i have one in my 33 coupe, thread is here on the hamm. It very cool indeed as you can two and from the track or just use it as part of you racing... its rare as all......I bought mine from Don Ferguson.....And you also need a engine to go with that killer rear end.

Scott Gillen

 

Pm me I am interested in it.

Scott Gillen

 

A long delayed project in Los Altos, CA is going to include one of these Halibrand Indy rear ends and a Ford engine with Gurney Westlake heads in a 27 T roadster body. Owner retired a few years ago, so maybe now he'll have time to carry out his plan!

 

Can one assume twice the noise?

 

Westlake is in LA. WESLAKE made the heads.

 

Ought to be worth a ton to someone who is interested in building a mid engine roaster or coupe.

I couldn't come up with a value but I would bet it would be worth owning if you had money waiting in the wings.