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08-01-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Rich, one big difference is mine has a round tube dropped axle. Could they be the same spindles?
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08-02-2009, 06:22 AM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
The year and make of the axle and spindle doesn't really have anything to do with the conversion. This conversion can be used with virtually any make car...you just adjust the dimensions to fit your application.
When you machine off the round part of the spindle that the hub rides on, you are left with what could be considered a universal mounting king pin boss with 4 holes. The dimensions on the original Essex gave us the opportunity to offset the AMC spindle, but if your Willys mounting holes are closer together, you could actually drill 8 mounting holes in the flat plate and offset the new spindle at whatever height you choose. 4 for the Willys holes and 4 for the AMC spindle holes. Just don't mount it so high that the wheel/hub would start to act as a lever and flex or bend the flat plate.
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08-02-2009, 06:46 AM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Ohhhh...this is gonna be a GOOD thread...I can feel it!
Gotta say I'm a tiny bit iffy on the Vega box, but if it needed changing later a bigger box will bolt on, so its no big deal or anything... I've seen pics of that spindle conversion done before Rich and actually grabbed an AMC spindle/disc combo from the scrapyard just so I would have what I needed to do the conversion to some rig in the future! BTW...If anyone has a fear of bolting spindles together they should remember that all the big engined AMC muscle cars/sedans/wagons etc, with their excess front weight compared to a setback Hot Rod, had bolt together spindles! I've never heard of a problem!!! Also...if you ever had your kids going to school in your wifes pre 96 Mopar Minivan, you'd be interested in looking at the rear axle construction! BOLTED on spindles...no machined locator or anything. Just 4 bolts and they aren't very big. Mopar cars of the era were the same! (Makes a cheap trailer axle though...  )
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08-02-2009, 07:40 AM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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08-02-2009, 10:26 AM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Looks like a 1931 Model 95 Light Six, I have a 1931 in the garage right now, I'm trying to free up the motor. Looks like the same car except for the hood sides and the wheel type.
If you run across a hand crank for it let me know. Also if you want any Pics of how something should look I'll be glad to send them.
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08-02-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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Hello Ralph, yes mine is model 6-90 1932 sedan. I have a hand crank that i will not be using . It's yours for the taking just pay for the shipping. PM me if your interested and we can set something up. I just got done pulling the motor and trans and it too needs to be freed up. Pulled the plugs and put in some kerosine, see if that works. I'll be using a small block chevy for this build but figured maybe somebody could use the motor down the line. I believe this to be the slip valve motor but don't know enough about them to be sure.
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08-02-2009, 01:37 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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No title came with the car but i know it's a Willys Overland from the tags and was told it was a 32. Is there suppose to be an I.D. tag on the firewall? Only one that i found was on the floor inside the drivers side rear door with the serial number 6-90 8060.
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08-02-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Well after a long day we pretty much have the car gutted. Engine, trans,rearend and driveshaft, 4 fenders ,hood, grille, radiator and misc lots of little other things are off the car. All thats left are the boards, splash aprons and rear pan for the sheetmetal. The brake rods ,cables and brackets,column ,box and steering related on the mechanical end. Then lots of cleaning , wire brushing and sandblasting which might be pretty boring to post , so on we go. Till the next update, see ya.
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08-02-2009, 05:26 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
More pictures.
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08-02-2009, 05:28 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Those sleeve valve engines are worth something to a restorer, best left as is, don't force it to turn and brake something. Good luck with the build, I be following along with the rest of the gang.
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08-02-2009, 05:33 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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Yes i'm not going to force anything, thought maybe i could get a couple bucks back on my investment if some restorer was in the market for one. Kinda have a couple other things to do for the next 28 days.
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08-02-2009, 05:45 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
i always like this point in the build...the point where you look around and say " now all we have to do is everything. "
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08-02-2009, 07:47 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Sure looks like a Knight engine, I'm trying to free this one up using Marvel Mystery oil. It's been sitting for about 15 years. I'm sure your has been sitting just a tad bit longer. PM sent.
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08-02-2009, 08:52 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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Ralph, can't get the damn winshield out, the crank on it is froze and can't get it open enough to get at all the retaining screws on the hinge. Have any pictures of yours open so i can see what i'm up against? Any ideas how to get it open more? Don't want to wreck it, figured if i can get it off the car i should be able to free it up. Been squirting it now for a week to no avail. 
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08-02-2009, 10:51 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
I'd leave it just the way it is and just pretend it's done and you're having fun driving it. Just think of the money you'll save. Just kidding. What a great find and what a great project you got there. Ill be looking forward to seeing it done. Good luck guys. You guys do great work.
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08-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Let me take a look at it tonight and see if I can snap some pics. Do you want pics of the crank area or the hinge or Both?
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08-03-2009, 06:50 PM
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08-03-2009, 06:51 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
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Thanks Rick, hope your doing well.
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08-03-2009, 07:12 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Steve,
OK, it turns clockwise as your sitting in the drivers seat to open. It's hard to see but I'll attach the pics anyway. It looks like if you take off the handle and then the nut holding the worm gear that you might be able to get it loose that way. If not then you can at least put some WD40 in it to try and crank it some more. When I opened this one it was tight and real slow in opening until I got it to about mid range(window open a couple inches) and then it got tight again. After a couple shots of WD it started to get a little bit better. Hope that helps. P.S. the pics of the crank mechanism are upside down as I had to hold the camera against the windshield to get those shots. Later, Ralph
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08-03-2009, 07:54 PM
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Re: 1932 Willys...barn find to runner in thirty days.
Thanks Ralph, now i know which way i should be turning it. That is a big help, at least it clears up that part of the mystery. I've had the handle off for 4 days and squirt it 2 times a day , so i'll just keep trying. I need new glass in the windshield so i thought about some heat but don't know if there is anything in there that could melt. Think it's all steel but not sure.
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