The Jalopy Journal

MrFire · 08-01-2010, 11:22 PM

Early record:

63.15 km / h
The first registration of an official record speed in a car was registered in France, on 18 December 1898.
Gaston de Chasseloup-Laub, in a car with an electric motor Jeantaud Duc, managed a top speed of 63.15 km / h.

**The37Kid** · 08-01-2010, 11:25 PM

Is that faster than a new GM Volt?

MrFire · 08-01-2010, 11:26 PM

Camile Jenatzy's first:

105,88 km/h
Pragul de 100 km/h a fost depasit in acelasi an, pe 29 aprilie, tot in Franta, tot de catre belgianul Camille Jenatzy, in masina sa electrica, CITA No 25, La Jamais Contente. Acesta a atins viteza de 105,88 km/h.

MrFire · 08-01-2010, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The37Kid

Is that faster than a new GM Volt?

Quite possibly. May not be as comfortable though.

MrFire · 08-01-2010, 11:33 PM

April, 1902 - William K Vanderbilt drove a Mors Z. Aceasta to 124.14KPH:

I don't think there are, or I can't find, any B&W photos of a Mors Z.

**The37Kid** · 08-02-2010, 12:09 AM

I've got a B&W of that car! Now I have to find it.

ehdubya · 08-02-2010, 04:05 AM

Ab normal

floydjer · 08-02-2010, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Capps

Literacy is a great burden that some must bear in this day and age.

Anyone can go fishing and catch a fish. Catching the specific fish you wanted requires a fisherman. Thanks for taking the bait, Donnie.

T-Head · 08-03-2010, 08:07 AM

Miltons? at the first race at Beverly Hills?

T-Head · 08-03-2010, 08:14 AM

.....

kurtis · 08-03-2010, 09:51 AM

Nice collection of photographs T-H. Wish they were mine.

The wheels on Art Klien's Frontenac look very familiar. Are they the same brand that were run at Indy on the Miller's of Ira Vail and Leach? I think they were called Disteel.

gilmore · 08-03-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtis

Nice collection of photographs T-H. Wish they were mine.

The wheels on Art Klien's Frontenac look very familiar. Are they the same brand that were run at Indy on the Miller's of Ira Vail and Leach? I think they were called Disteel.

T-Head grabbed them off ebay. If you can convince seller to ship to Australia, they can be yours.

Here are the links to the auctions...

http://cgi.ebay.com/MILTON-FENGLER-B...item19be60b85f

http://cgi.ebay.com/FENGLER-ELLIOTT-...item19be60d23f

http://cgi.ebay.com/DURANT-MURPHY-BO...item19be60d8a4

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-JIMMY-MURPH...item19be606f3d

http://cgi.ebay.com/JAMES-MURPHY-IND...item19be601814

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOE-BOYER-JR-HEA...item19be600e8a

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROSS-SARLES-EDDI...item19be5ff26a

http://cgi.ebay.com/1ST-BEVERLY-HILL...item19be603a98

kurtis · 08-03-2010, 10:48 AM

Thanks Gilmore.

T-Head · 08-03-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtis

Nice collection of photographs T-H. Wish they were mine.

The wheels on Art Klien's Frontenac look very familiar. Are they the same brand that were run at Indy on the Miller's of Ira Vail and Leach? I think they were called Disteel.

I think you are right about the wheels Kurtis......Those links that Gilmore put up with not work anymore as I decided to buy all of the photos this afternoon.

**model.A.keith** · 08-03-2010, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Head

......Those links that Gilmore put up with not work anymore as I decided to all of the photos this afternoon.

T-H....links working for me .

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T-Head · 08-03-2010, 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=model.A.keith;5500647]T-H....links working for me .

Only one lot will stay up for me, the ones I bought come up and disappear in in 5-10 seconds.

**model.A.keith** · 08-03-2010, 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=T-Head;5500670]

Quote:

Originally Posted by model.A.keith

T-H....links working for me .

Only one lot will stay up for me, the ones I bought come up and disapear in in 5-10 seconds.

T-H, how odd all working for me..........no matter .......enjoy your new purchases.

Keith

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Michael Ferner · 08-03-2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Head

Miltons? at the first race at Beverly Hills?

Yes, Milton, but not the first race at Beverly, it's actually the last: February 24, 1924. The following day, razing of the track already began. #33 is Milton's second car, for motorcycle star Ralph Hepburn.

Michael Ferner · 08-03-2010, 03:26 PM

Januray 26, 1919, "old" Ascot Speedway: Steve Elmore crashed the "Gordon Special" (Huntley Gordon's Mercer/Wisconsin) during qualifying, riding mechanic Jack Shafer broke his shoulder according to reports. Apparently, the car somersaulted forward and landed upside down, then rolling over. "Elmore only got his face dirty"!

T-Head · 08-03-2010, 03:57 PM

Thanks for the details, I bought the rest of them ...T-H

08-01-2010, 11:22 PM	#4201
MrFire Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 7,171	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Early record: 63.15 km / h The first registration of an official record speed in a car was registered in France, on 18 December 1898. Gaston de Chasseloup-Laub, in a car with an electric motor Jeantaud Duc, managed a top speed of 63.15 km / h.

08-01-2010, 11:25 PM	#4202
The37Kid Alliance Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Posts: 15,906	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Is that faster than a new GM Volt?

08-01-2010, 11:26 PM	#4203
MrFire Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 7,171	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Camile Jenatzy's first: 105,88 km/h Pragul de 100 km/h a fost depasit in acelasi an, pe 29 aprilie, tot in Franta, tot de catre belgianul Camille Jenatzy, in masina sa electrica, CITA No 25, La Jamais Contente. Acesta a atins viteza de 105,88 km/h.

08-01-2010, 11:33 PM	#4205
MrFire Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 7,171	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 April, 1902 - William K Vanderbilt drove a Mors Z. Aceasta to 124.14KPH: I don't think there are, or I can't find, any B&W photos of a Mors Z.

08-02-2010, 12:09 AM	#4206
The37Kid Alliance Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Posts: 15,906	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 I've got a B&W of that car! Now I have to find it.

08-02-2010, 04:05 AM	#4207
ehdubya Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mainland NZ Posts: 2,288	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Ab normal Attached Thumbnails __________________ "the whiff of a beaver lovers noise and burned pistons" - translate.google.com

08-03-2010, 08:07 AM	#4209
T-Head Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Paradise. Posts: 3,839	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Miltons? at the first race at Beverly Hills? Attached Thumbnails

08-03-2010, 08:14 AM	#4210
T-Head Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Paradise. Posts: 3,839	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 ..... Attached Thumbnails Last edited by T-Head; 08-03-2010 at 08:38 AM.

08-03-2010, 09:51 AM	#4211
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,871	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Nice collection of photographs T-H. Wish they were mine. The wheels on Art Klien's Frontenac look very familiar. Are they the same brand that were run at Indy on the Miller's of Ira Vail and Leach? I think they were called Disteel.

08-03-2010, 10:48 AM	#4213
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,871	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Thanks Gilmore.

08-03-2010, 02:46 PM	#4216
T-Head Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Paradise. Posts: 3,839	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 [QUOTE=model.A.keith;5500647]T-H....links working for me . Only one lot will stay up for me, the ones I bought come up and disappear in in 5-10 seconds. Last edited by T-Head; 08-03-2010 at 05:51 PM.

08-03-2010, 03:26 PM	#4219
Michael Ferner Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bitburg, Germany Posts: 533	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Januray 26, 1919, "old" Ascot Speedway: Steve Elmore crashed the "Gordon Special" (Huntley Gordon's Mercer/Wisconsin) during qualifying, riding mechanic Jack Shafer broke his shoulder according to reports. Apparently, the car somersaulted forward and landed upside down, then rolling over. "Elmore only got his face dirty"! __________________ Visit Indy Car A-Z at OldRacingCars.com.

08-03-2010, 03:57 PM	#4220
T-Head Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Paradise. Posts: 3,839	Re: Auto racing 1894-1944 Thanks for the details, I bought the rest of them ...T-H Last edited by T-Head; 08-03-2010 at 04:14 PM.

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