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Old 06-23-2009, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

I was down at the Schlumpf collection in Mülhouse at the weekend and took a lot of pictures. Fascinating place and well worth a visit.

Hopefully nobody will call OT on this thread - these really are some beautiful old race and road cars and it was fantastic to be able to get up close(ish) and check out the design and engineering. Itīd be good to see some of old Monsieur Bugattis ideas turn up on hot rods - after all, his stuff always seemed to work pretty well for him - he must have been doing something right.



Art Deco/Nouveau/Psycho mascots from the collection...





Bugattis...





...lots of Bugattis....





The "Tank"...


Bear with me, itīll take a while to post these...
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Talbot...



Mathis with a 12 litre four banger!


So you thought T coupes looked a little strange...?


1923 Amilcar. Note the Hallock like screen.


Ferrari 250 LM for Ryan...



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Old 06-23-2009, 01:39 PM   #3
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

i thought those were toys at first! thats way cool though
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:42 PM   #4
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Different kind of `32 three window...
Sorry about the pictures - they donīt make it easy to photograph anything.










Alfa Romeos. Huge things these were...


Gordinis...


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Old 06-23-2009, 01:43 PM   #5
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Is this the group of cars that was hidden to the public until fairly recently? Those mascots are something. Looks like a neat post.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:44 PM   #6
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Those old Bugattis are amazing.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Motors...
Bugatti straight eight.


Matra V12





Huge Panhard record car...


More Panhards. Real Sci Fi cars these are...




French mini Merc - a V8 60 powered Vedette.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:52 PM   #8
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

I recently read a story in a 2008 Automobile Quarterly about this collection. I have seen other stories about the place as well. Fantastic cars and good stories.
Enjoyed your pictures!
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:04 PM   #9
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

More blue cars...





Another Alfa.


Colossal Esders Royale roadster. 18ī long, 12.7 litre motor and 24" alloy wheels and very little interior space. This is sort of a replica, made from various left over parts and an engine that had been used in a train! (Bugatti used up unsold Royale parts in trains). It was never fitted with headlights. He didnīt want to drive it at night. So he didnīt!


And here are few pictures for those of you wanting to build your own Bugatti! There was a stripped down Atalante coupe in the lobby, so I took the opportunity to show you how they were put together. (My camera battery karked it at this point, so that was it!)

Wonderful straight eight engine. This would push the car to over 100mph in the early thirties.Notice the very deep section chassis and hefty looking engine mounts.


Separate aluminium covered wooden firewall and very large rear engine mount that goes right around the gearbox. This isnīt ever going to flex!


Beautiful finned differential housing and the chassis gets even thicker at the back end so that the axle can pass through it. The rear springs are quarter elliptics that come forwards from the rear "spreader bar" and sideways movement is kept in check with friction shocks. Hopefully you can make it out on the second picture (though thats a different car - with chain drive). Interesting setup that Iīve never seen on a rod.





So there you are!
Its a must see.
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:10 PM   #10
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

i just finished reading about some alfa race car from the late 20 with an ohv 6 that produced something like 125 hp. i love european race cars from the 1920 to late 1960 most of the people building them were as much hotrodders as anyone over here. same passion for going fast. just look at good ol Enzo building street cars to make money to go race thats what i think it was all about. dont worry the pictures look great, i mean how could you take a bad picture of the purest art there is.
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:14 PM   #11
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

forward mounted quarter elipticals in the rear... dig that crazy stack of leafs!

thanks for posting these, some amazing cars... any more of the italian dancing horse cars?

i got a thing for Ferrari as well
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:22 PM   #12
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Absolutely Beautiful...Thanks for posting....Some of those cars are quite amazing....
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:39 PM   #13
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

WOW!!!!
Thank you very much for posting that.
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Umm.....I'll take one of each thank you.

Love these threads for sure.
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:57 PM   #15
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

[QUOTE=JeffreyJames;4050125]Umm.....I'll take one of each thank you.

Bugger, leave some for me!I'm going to Goodwood Revival this year hope to see some Bugattis' racing wheel to wheel, should be good.Thanks for the pictures, I could just smell 'em!

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Old 06-23-2009, 03:21 PM   #16
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

OT!!?? This is car-guy internet porn! Thanks for the pics, I will never get there to see them in person.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:28 PM   #17
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Hi,James D.
These are the headlamps I'm fitting to my Model A ,Marchal Aerolux.I believe they were fitted to the '36 or '37 Atalante Type 57C.Maybe other makes as well.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:35 PM   #18
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

Sag mal James, wer hat Dir den Schlüssel zu meiner Garage gegeben???
Das gibts doch nicht :-)
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:37 PM   #19
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Default Re: Bugattis at the Schlumpf collection - lots of photos.

WOW!!!! Just.... WOW!!!! Thank you for posting this!!!! I find all of this stuff very inspirational from not only a craftsmanship aspect but from an engineering aspect! Beautifully engineered! As craftsman of our own vehicles, there are just a ton of details in these cars we would should be paying attention to.

Note to self: visit this collection if ever in Germany.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:46 PM   #20
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Note to self: visit this collection if ever in Germany.
Note to Scootermcrad - itīs in France!
(but only just)
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