History F**K That *other* Pontiac thread, let's see what made 'em GRRRREAT!

[monsterflake]

i'm disappointed that GM is being forced to fold their 2nd best selling brand, but right now, i'm gonna celebrate the good times...

[Mazooma1]

[Mazooma1]

[Chandler]

[Mazooma1]

Ahhh, the smell of nitro mixed with the smell of "In 'N Out" Burgers

[havi]

Some of the coolest emblems, ornaments, and tin signs of yesteryear.

[doozcoupe]

Nice pictorial! Back in the day, everybody that was into performance drove a Pontiac. Sad day indeed. RIP PMD!

[Mr Haney]

the 1967 Gto, lemans, tempest ................my personal favorite\\this one was black and straight....with gragars and a 4-speed ! ! !

[plumfat40]

Cant believe they are gonna say goodbye, we have a 1934 town sedan, 1935 sedan, 1937 1938 sedan, 1953 catalina, 19701/2 t/a... love those poncho's

[havi]

My friend's cars

[Zettle Bros.]

Here you go:

[forsakenfew]

i guess you could say i'm a fan of pontiacs....

[monsterflake]

more...

[monsterflake]

again...

[Mazooma1]

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

the most famous pontiac of all?...

[Mazooma1]

Bill Fredrick's "Shutter Bug", San Fernando Drag Strip

[Mazooma1]

[49ratfink]

had one of these from age 17 til I was about 21 or 22. munched 2 Muncies and one 3.90 posi. only wrecked it once. seems like eveybody I know who had a GTO when they were young and stupid wrecked it and broke things.

the good old days ... go to the junkyard and pick up another GTO posi rear.

had a 69 Gran Prix also. love the torque of those 400's.

[Mazooma1]

[rusty truck]

wide track at its best

[Flat Roy]

Now This is what it's all about!!!!!

[Mazooma1]

[Rich Rogers]

No pics to post but I've had my share. Unfortunately none were HAMB friendly but always had a great time and loved em. 67 Lemans, 2--68 Firebirds, 69 Firebird, 91 Firebird, 67 Catalina and a 71 Model J Grand Prix.Trying to get my hands a 60 Catalina 2 door hardtop and the same guy has a 67 Bonne. with a 421. Both been sittin for years but all there. But lets face as much as we loved em they haven't really built one at least in my eyes since the last Pontiac engine was built. Gonna miss em but it's up to us to find them, bring them back and love em

[monsterflake]

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

[monsterflake]

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

chevy powered canadian, but it looks good...

[Mazooma1]

[BloodyKnuckles]

GREAT CALL MONSTERFLAKE!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!


BloodyKnuckles

[monsterflake]

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

awesome!

[Kevin Lee]

If someone doesn't post a shot of FLAMEDABONE'S sedan on this thread there is something seriously wrong in the world.

[Mazooma1]

[patrick66]

I'd love to have another Bonneville ragtop!!! I've owned a '66, '67, and a '68 (yeah, i know, HAMB-unfriendly, so what!) and loved all three of them!

A '60 Bonnie, or a '60 wagon would be awesome! There is a '60 Laurentian wagon here on the HAMB for sale, but I'm a tad shy on the funds right now!

[Mazooma1]

[jakeondalake]

Guess i'll contribute, even the new pontiacs aren't half bad, even though half of their parts are metric. I still have an '02 Grand Prix. No problems yet at 91K

[eeluddy]

Originally Posted by monsterflake

chevy powered canadian, but it looks good...

Lot's more Canadians at http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=118110

[Mazooma1]

[Little Wing]

[betteroffalone]

I love em.

[Special Ed]

A bit O/T but a poncho!

[Ruiner]

No pictures, but it's only Poncho power for my '40 Plymouth drag car...413 cu in, 10:1 compression, fenderwell headers, it sounds like the apocalypse and eats SBC's for breakfast, Dodges for lunch and Fords for dinner...

[flamedabone]

There are currently EIGHT complete Pontiac motors inside my tiny 24X24 garage.....



-Abone.

[rustynewyorker]

Just thinking how many I've had now.

'70 Gran Prix, 400, 4-speed and a posi (my dad's, but I drove it to high school)
'60 Catalina 4dr (and a '59 Star Chief parts car)
'72 Bonneville 4dr, 455. drove until the frame broke
'72 Grand Ville 4dr, 455, replaced the Bonne
'72 Grand Ville 2dr, intended to put the 455 in it since someone else robbed it of it's own
'73 Grand Ville 2dr, got boned when I put that in storage, another 455 car

Plus stuff I picked up just to hang onto - '57 Chieftain 4dr, super solid for like $100; '64 Gran Prix I parted out last year (bad frame), '55 and '56 Safaris in rough shape I parted out (sold the tops right off them), '62 Catalina with no motor and '65 LeMans buckets I could have had free and was never able to haul home.. there's probably others I can't remember too.

[Pir8Darryl]

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by TotallyCustom

A bit O/T but a poncho!

this gives me a chubby! i'm glad it's not for sale...

[monsterflake]

just got back from a pontiac picture raid over at plan9...

http://www.plan59.com/main.htm

[plymouth1952]

I also had a 70 GPSJ 4 speed the car was unreal. but my first new car was a 72 GTO
I bought new at Salta Pontiac in longview when I came home form VN. fast but spent most of its short life in the shop with wireing problems. went over on the top, down in Calif in 73 Damn me.

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

15 more...

[belair]

"I wanna see a 37 pontiac."
This isn't a great shot of my 37 C-dan because all the parts are stored inside the car. I sold the car but have full rights to buy it back if I want to..

[Mazooma1]

[Mazooma1]

Originally Posted by belair

I wanna see a 37 pontiac.

[Mazooma1]

[onlychevrolets]

I have a 1951 Chieftan , it will be the "girls" car. My wife , daughter in law , and my two beautiful grand daughters will cruise it when the men take the hot rod out...

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

still more...

[monsterflake]

the last of my plan9 stash...

[Mazooma1]

[Mazooma1]

[Mazooma1]

[monsterflake]

damn, i thought i hated those scoops before, right now i wanna punch this guy in the sac...

Originally Posted by Mazooma1

[49ratfink]

gotta love the W-I-D-E track advertising. this car would take up 2 lanes if it were built to scale.

[Thorkle Rod]

Some history:
http://www.welovepontiacs.com/history.html

[rick finch]

Thanks guys.........My deceased father was a Pontiac salesman his whole adult life. Those old sales brochures brought back some wonderful memories. Dad had a '58 Bonneville convertible, fuel injection, air ride, white exterior with red cove. ( same interior combo) I was 12 at the time that car & times are indelibly imprinted in my brain!!!

[55chieftain]

[Mazooma1]

Originally Posted by rick finch

Thanks guys.........My deceased father was a Pontiac salesman his whole adult life. Those old sales brochures brought back some wonderful memories. Dad had a '58 Bonneville convertible, fuel injection, air ride, white exterior with red cove. ( same interior combo) I was 12 at the time that car & times are indelibly imprinted in my brain!!!

[rick finch]

SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doug you fuckin' amaze me..... dude you are the best.

[Hot Rod Michelle]

Unfortunately, nothing good lasts forever guys.

[monsterflake]

my personal fave from that bunch...

[Pontiac Slim]

and so it is written...

"on the 6th day at the very conception of time the Almighty hizself created and thus cast upon the earth an evil wind eminating from the great indian burial ground nestled deep in the bowels of a place that from this day forth shall be called "The Badlands"
it waz then that the great indian chief shook the lands with all of his spirtual powers snd from out of the fire and ashes it waz created...the now infamus PONTIAC powered 31 Ford coupe known as "She & I "
The legend as passed down from each great chief "She & I " born in the Badlands revised in a nightmare. The Pontiac gods from this day forth will cast a smile as the earth shall shake rattle & roll! This shall only end on the very last day of created time"

just me... Pontiac Slim

[A32Flathead]

Mine

[buds56]

My pontiacs

[docc]

[Jigger]

Did mine just go up a bit in value?

[cowboy.3d]

My '40 under the Manhattan Bridge last summer. Drove it to work today!

[Mike Zenor]

Okay, not really 100% poncho, but has dash, steering wheel and 389 motor from a 1959 Star Chief; roof insert is the Pontiac's hood run backwards. For extra Pontiacity, note the grill ornament.

[teddyp]

always loved the pontiac had a 66 2&2 421 , a 55 chevy with a 421 pontiacbut no pictures but this is a few pictures of my buddy glen,s 38 pontiac

[draggin'GTO]

The first tunnel ram intake (known as a 'bathtub' intake), brought to you by none other than the engineers at Pontiac in 1963 for doing battle in the 'stocker wars'. These came on the 410 HP 13:1-compression 421 Super Duty engines, equipped with two NASCAR 750 Carter AFB carbs. I doubt they had only 410 HP.



Another 421 SD engine, a 405 HP 12:1-compression engine with a low-rise 2X4 intake.



A rare reproduction of the 'bathtub' tunnel ram intake.







The 'bathtub' repro intake pictured above was produced by the late Dave Johnson, a hard-core Pontiac racer to the end. Dave was a truly dedicated Pontiac drag racer who put forth the effort to cast up his own intake for Nostalgia Super Stock competition. Dave's '63 'White Warrior' Tempest race car is pictured below, he ran the car with both a V8 and a 4-banger Tempest engine (right cylinder bank of a 389).

Car’s Best Time: 8.95 ET Seconds at 149.6 mph (with 442 CI Iron Block V8)
Minimum Weight with driver: 3,000 lbs.
Car’s Best Time: 11.65 ET Seconds at 111.48 mph (with 206 CI Iron Block I4)
Weight with driver: 2,710 lbs



Long live Pontiac, and the folks who made them into the true performance cars we all know and love!!!

[Jigger]

[Mike Zenor]

Rockwell City, Iowa -- a still functioning Pontiac dealer sign

[rick finch]

I call 1st dibs on the sign!

[Jigger]

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by Mike Zenor

Okay, not really 100% poncho, but has dash, steering wheel and 389 motor from a 1959 Star Chief; roof insert is the Pontiac's hood run backwards. For extra Pontiacity, note the grill ornament.

Beautiful!!! Is that a Pontiac blue? It reminds me of the '62 color.

[CFM]

[Mike Zenor]

Originally Posted by Jigger

Beautiful!!! Is that a Pontiac blue? It reminds me of the '62 color.

'66 Buick midnight blue firemist... but very close to a '59-'63 Pontiac blue

[poseur111]

Borrowed from another thread:

[earl schieb]

Cool thread--I'll make a picture contribution tomorrow(my 60 Catalina)

There was a neat piece today in the Tennessean newspaper about folks with Pontiac love affairs---one in particular was a guy whose dad carried him home from the hospital after he was born in the family GTO(66, I think) Now, 35 years later, the son is planning to drive HIS son home(due next month) in the SAME GTO.
How cool is that for family legacy?

[Winged Avenger II]

Poncho's were always special.

[Merc]

Before my first 50 merc was my 1969 GTO Judge...man I sometimes miss that car and I am going to miss Pontiac!

[Justin B]

59 389 in my 34

[Old-Soul]

Guess who's car I like...

[Al Consoli]

[1LOWCHIEF]

Well, I guess they're "ok"...

[thunderplex]

Originally Posted by Mike Zenor

'66 Buick midnight blue firemist... but very close to a '59-'63 Pontiac blue

1961 Pontiac Bristol Blue

[Karl Fields]

No pics to share, but started with a 62 Tempest LeMans, 4 spd, 4 cyl, 4 barrel. What a combo! Couldn't keep a trans-axel in it, but that's what high school was for.

Then a 62 GrandPrix, 389 tripower, auto but we converted it to a 4 speed.

Finally a 65 GTO, tripower, big cam, 4 spd, but the guy before me put a sraight axel in it. If I had cared, probably really shot the hell out of the resale value

Helped a little that my dad was a Pontiac dealer, back in the day.

They will be missed, well except for that Aztec model!

[Jimmy B]

Eddie Miller Jr's flathead 6 Pontiac Lakester, there is speculation this is the car that influenced Pontiac to adopt the Bonneville name.


Oh and '66 Pontiac GTO like the one my Aunty owned.

[flynstone]

gofastnow

[fur biscuit]

anyone got a picture of Jerry Titus's Tempest that he raced in the '65 Trans Am series?

[x2cracing@msn.com]

62 Chevy drag truck powered by a Pontiac 455

[docc]

I was at Road America T/A practice 1970 and saw Jerry hit the bridge that killed him..sad day. He was in hospital for a little but died of his injuries..not sure if he ever regained consiousness..
A great guy and great driver..

[Nick32vic]

Originally Posted by Mike Zenor

Okay, not really 100% poncho, but has dash, steering wheel and 389 motor from a 1959 Star Chief; roof insert is the Pontiac's hood run backwards. For extra Pontiacity, note the grill ornament.

Holy cow! Did you actually drive your car somewhere Mike!!!?!?!?!?!?!

[fur biscuit]

Originally Posted by docc

I was at Road America T/A practice 1970 and saw Jerry hit the bridge that killed him..sad day. He was in hospital for a little but died of his injuries..not sure if he ever regained consiousness..
A great guy and great driver..

The trans am series would have to be one of my favorite era's of racing, it just looked so fun and sounded unreal.

[Chebby belair]

Couple more. Title of the last one is kinda ironic....

[Bigchuck]

Damn, you guys are makin' me miss my old ponchos. Had a '62 Tempest with the 1/2 V8 & a 4 speed, a '66 Tempest with the ohc 6, and a '66 Catalina Safari Wagon.

[mr57]

Here's one you won't see too often.....

[autobilly]

Originally Posted by Mazooma1

Mickey is turnin' in his grave. RIP Poncho.

[48 Poncho]

With todays econonmy and GM's corporate leadership it only makes sense "THEY" would see fit to do away with their more affordable line and keep the Higher priced stuff. RIP PMD!

48 Poncho

[48 Poncho]

Don't know who it belongs to but I like it!

48 Poncho

[mctim64]

"Heap Fine Heap"

[draggin'GTO]

[drdave]

Mine

[drdave]

If I could, I would. Someone should....

[Chebby belair]

More...

[markyac]

[draggin'GTO]

[Nekronomicon]

RIP Pontiac

[Johnnyzoom]

[rockey marino]

Our first year at Bonneville with the old Firebird, 2007!

[The Rabid Whippet]

One of my Firebirds made it into the movies about 3 months ago. Good times!!!. Mid 12s with a 400 with stock non ported heads on pump gas. Let the legend live on!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dTfM...e=channel_page

[PunkAssGearhead88]

As someone said here earlier on this thread, "All good things always come to an end". F*ck this is heartbreaking! First Olds now no more TIN INDIAN!!
I know theyre off topic but my pops owns a 70 Firebird Formula and have always loved the front end treatment on the 70-73 Birds. Here is Ponch's Poncho from chips and Corvette Summer

[Jimmy B]

That black Firebird from "Corvette Summer" has to be the best bad guy car of all time, I loved that chase scene at the end. I hated it when he blew it up

[rat pink]

big bee's

[Bdamfino]

[LOST ANGEL]

[345 DeSoto]

My 63 Tempest...

[Jeff Norwell]

Great thread....

Here is some old Ad art....of which I own the original.....a friend of mine painted it in '65......gee...I was 2 then.

ha ha ha

[customcory]

I growed up playing in a 40 Pontiac coupe my dad had. It had 11,000 miles on it with the original air in its tires! It was mint. The wild thing about it was that it had a full leather interior and according to pontiac they only made about 12 or so like that. Its in a museum somewhere last I heard.

[monsterflake]

my latest pontiac...







"ran when parked"



i need one of these, check out the wheels.

"brb, i'm hovering down to the grocery store!"

[mctim64]

The old days

[mrjynx]

Why are there so few starchiefs about? theyre like gold dust...

[rockey marino]

"it looks just like a Tele-Funkin U-47"

WITH LEATHER!

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by Jeff Norwell

Great thread....

Here is some old Ad art....of which I own the original.....a friend of mine painted it in '65......gee...I was 2 then.

ha ha ha

Your a lucky man, all I have is that set of Nat. Geo. mags from 66-69.
I scanned all theGM add, 98% of which are Pontiac adds.

Next time I call you old, remind me we were born the same year.
I was there when Kennedy was shot but I don't remember what
I was doing at the time...

[RatBone]

heres my Dad with his brand new GTO drop top

[monsterflake]

my daily from the mid-nineties...



saved from the crusher!



his and hers...




i loves me some pontiacs...

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by PunkAssGearhead88

As someone said here earlier on this thread, "All good things always come to an end". F*ck this is heartbreaking! First Olds now no more TIN INDIAN!!
I know theyre off topic but my pops owns a 70 Firebird Formula and have always loved the front end treatment on the 70-73 Birds. Here is Ponch's Poncho from chips and Corvette Summer

Rockford had a Bronze/copper Formula and in a lot of shots this is the
car they showed. I distinctly remember the T/A-Formula hood. Further more, you could clearly see that James Garner did most of his own driving. He (now 81), Newman and McQueen were the cool ones. If it was on chips, the shows were probably swapping footage and props.

Man was I a Trans Am freak when I was a kid. I have more old sketches of them than any other make or model. I since done seen the light but a H.O., white on blue with low back buckets (parchment&black)1970-71 T/A
is still a flittering dream of mine.....

[G V Gordon]

It is sad, always had a soft spot for the Poncho line. I'll post a pic of the '63 GP tonight (none on this 'puter). Meanwhile here is a shot of one of the wheels. Gotta love the old 8 lugs.

Car pic added...

[Jeff Norwell]

Originally Posted by Jigger

Your a lucky man, all I have is that set of Nat. Geo. mags from 66-69.
I scanned all theGM add, 98% of which are Pontiac adds.

Next time I call you old, remind me we were born the same year.
I was there when Kennedy was shot but I don't remember what
I was doing at the time...

My 9 yr. old calls me an"Old geezer"

[moparforlife]

don't think I saw the bandit anywhere on here

[Gigantor]

I haven't owned a Poncho in years, but I admit it was a big punch in the gut to hear they're done for. My first car was a 69 Executive we all called Moby Dick. Big, long and white. FIrst car I ever caught air in, first engine I ever tore into, first time I ever got laid in a back seat (one of the few cars that I could actually pull that off in with even a modicum of grace too.) The car was sold off cheap to a guy who wanted to use it in a demo derby (good choice) and the back seat I turned into a bench and have been dragging around the country with me for years. Loved that car. Still have good memories to this day chilling in the garage, sitting on that bench seat and reminiscing how various love stains got there and with whom.

[troy5118]

Here's a barn shot of my Judge right before I bought it from the 3rd owner. The best part is it was pretty easy to find the history on it since the first owner was my old man!

[mctim64]

Originally Posted by rockey marino

"it looks just like a Tele-Funkin U-47"

WITH LEATHER!

..."don't make a fuss, just get on the bus!"

[Jigger]

A buddy of mine has/had a '701.5 Formula in this Avocado green. The car was mint and an original, all California car. He let a buddy take car of it and take care of it he did.
I thought Martin had more sense than this but, apparently, it was left to rot in a field the last several years, a wet field. That car was nearly perfect when I moved on 2001.
Worst part, it could have been mine for at or under $3000.00.
Even the color looks good at that price.

[Rust Monkey]

Here are a few shots of my Poncho's. I've had at least one Pontiac in the driveway since I got my license. The count is up to eight now! The latest is a '09 G8 GT, great car, it's a shame they are getting axed now they were showing signs of turning around. Long live the Chief of Sixes!

[Rust Monkey]

Here's a small sampling of Pontiac Ads that scroll as my screen saver. How do you tell a tiger from a pussycat? They really must have had a great ad agent in the '60's...

[Rust Monkey]

Just a few more...

[PunkAssGearhead88]

Originally Posted by Bdamfino

Nice, I forgot about the goat from TLB.

[PunkAssGearhead88]

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

That black Firebird from "Corvette Summer" has to be the best bad guy car of all time, I loved that chase scene at the end. I hated it when he blew it up

Ya I remember watching that as a kid with my pops, we were both fighting back the tears..

[PunkAssGearhead88]

Originally Posted by Jigger

Rockford had a Bronze/copper Formula and in a lot of shots this is the
car they showed. I distinctly remember the T/A-Formula hood. Further more, you could clearly see that James Garner did most of his own driving. He (nor 81), Newman and McQueen were the cool ones. If it was on chips, the shows were probably swapping footage and props.

Man was I a Trans Am freak when I was a kid. I have more old sketches of them than any other make or model. I since done seen the light but a H.O., white on blue with low back buckets (parchment&black)1970-71 T/A
is still a flittering dream of mine.....

I never realised that, thanks for the info.

[havi]

Originally Posted by Mike Zenor

Okay, not really 100% poncho, but has dash, steering wheel and 389 motor from a 1959 Star Chief; roof insert is the Pontiac's hood run backwards. For extra Pontiacity, note the grill ornament.

Wow, now I know what to do with that hood I have found out in the back 40! I think it's a '59/60 Starchief.

[Mr Haney]

this 63 pontiac 389 was the start of my current hot rod. that old motor sitting in corner of my garage ! !

[OhioRiv]

My first car...

[markyac]

2 time track champion

[earl schieb]

Gettin' closer to being done

[Muttley]

Someone should be forced to explain how they went from this:



To this:

[bubba67]

Here's my Black 70 Judge. I'm gonna miss Pontiac.

[67 dartona]

Here's mine!!!

[kustombuilder]

BEAUTIFUL cars. a damned shame for sure. i recently sold a 400 4 speed 68 Firebird. ballsiest car i've ever owned. damn could that thing cook a set of tires!

[31 B'ville]

Almost every car I've ever owned has been a Pontiac. Started with a '40 coupe flathead 6 when i was 15 and continued with a '61 Tempest 4-door, '54 straight 8 4-door, '63 Bonneville 2-door hardtop, '69 Custom S, '70 1/2 Firebird Formula 400 4-speed, '64 GTO tri-power 4-speed,'64 LeMans, '55 2-door sedan, '59 Bonneville Sport Coupe (bought in 1977 and still own), '66 2+2 conv. 421 tri-power automatic, two '69 Trans Ams, '84 6000STE, '66 LeMans, '61 Catalina 2-door hardtop 4-speed, '86 6000 S/E, '86 Fiero S/E, '94 Grand Am coupe, '97 Montana, and my current hot rod project '31 Pontiac rumbleseat coupe. Also collect (as money permits) vintage Pontiac memorabilia. To me, Pontiac always had an attitude that was reflected in its cars AND its advertising until the ' General ' ripped the rug out from under them and would not let them build the type of cars that made them great (pressure from Chevy perhaps?). Not happy at all to see them go but will enjoy Pontiac cars and memories forever!

[Midnight 50]

[patrick66]

My old '62 Pontiac LeMans Tempest convertible...194.5 ci Slant Four, auto, AM, heater, power top, and that's about it! Sold it to HAMBer Guthriesmith about two years ago. Cool project car! Another Pontiac ragtop I owned, besides the three Bonneville rags I mentioned before.





I've always said that if I had not grown up as a Mopar guy, I'd have been a Pontiac fanatic, instead! I've also owned a '70 Firebird, '64 Tempest, and a '65 Catalina coupe.

[Boones]

Abone, how do you fit two cars and 8 motors in that garage

[stuart in mn]

The hardtop I own now, and the convertible I used to own.

[THE CHIEF]

[flypa38]

Here's a couple shots of mine.......not finished, hence the $20 paint job, but I think she looks alright!

[OldBlueDagger]

Newbie post. Couldn't help wanting to show a few (Pontiacs) I have owned and my current ride - the 63 Catalina - on this great thread. Yes, I married the woman in the 79 TA (and still am, 30 years later). Pontiacs rule (or at least used to)!

[vintagegasser]

First pass in June 1966 @ Irwindale within days of purchase. 389 3x2, 4 speed, Posi, Tyree Headers, tow tabs and battery mounted in trunk I was in heaven. Finally owned a "Poncho" that would hold its own on the streets or strip, honeymoon ended when Uncle Sam stepped in 8 months later. 43 years later putting together a '61 Ventura 455 3x2, we never really grow up.

[Richard Head]

I've had my GTO since 1991, been restored twice since then.


Pontiac hasn't been Pontiac since they stopped building theese in the late 70's:


Dave

[Kustom55]

Here is my pontiac folder from my Flickr account as well as a pic taken in 2003 with the 55 Starchief

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kustom5...7604405951645/

[axle]

My Pontiac contribution.

[Kustom55]

More of what made Pontiac great...Axle's 1st Pontiac Bash!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kustom5...7604797778605/

[53chevy]

My daily. Just got it back on the road after a year of tinkering and stuff. Not perfect, but...........

Ken

[dixiedog]

69 Custom S I am selling for a buddy of mine - GTO running gear, will plant you in the seat

[zzford]

Mazooma posted a close up of the Challenger I. Here's another photo.

[autobilly]

Originally Posted by flypa38

I dig it!

[monsterflake]

if these pics don't give you a chubby, you've got serious problems...

Originally Posted by Richard Head

Pontiac hasn't been Pontiac since they stopped building these in the late 70's:


Dave

[monsterflake]

i love this, too...

Originally Posted by dixiedog

69 Custom S I am selling for a buddy of mine - GTO running gear, will plant you in the seat

[rick finch]

Chubby??? I have to use 2 popcicle sticks and duct tape.......can't afford Viagra in today's economy. (Those photos are giving me a "stir" though!)

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by rick finch

Chubby??? I have to use 2 popcicle sticks and duct tape.......can't afford Viagra in today's economy. (Those photos are giving me a "stir" though!)

now that's pontiac power!

[RileyRacing]

I've only owned one Pontiac, a 79 T/A S/E WS6. I bought it back a while ago, but haven't told the wife yet... I'm not even sure I'm gonna keep it.
One things for sure, that thing flat MOVES!

JK

[cavistyle]

[31 B'ville]

[draggin'GTO]

[axeman39]

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by Mr Haney

the 1967 Gto, lemans, tempest ................my personal favorite\\this one was black and straight....with gragars and a 4-speed ! ! !

Not to be picky, but that's a 66, not a 67.

[twotoejoe]

I'm partial to 65's.

[Retro Jim]

Back in 1971 I have a 62 Pontiac Catalina and that was a damn good cruising car . Put a 389 in it and it ran great ! Nice and big with plenty of room to "Neck in & .....well you get the idea " !
Shame to see the great classics going by the way side ! DAMN SAD !

[mr57]

Who needs a 389?? Phooey on them. Check this out...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1...safari409.html

Only in Canada, you say. Pity....

[KING CHASSIS]

Sorry I dont have a picture of it. But a guy I work with has the 66 GTO that he came home from the hospital in when he was born. Now I thnk that is really cool. Black on black 389 auto car.

[markyac]

Originally Posted by mr57

Who needs a 389?? Phooey on them. Check this out...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1...safari409.html

Only in Canada, you say. Pity....

That's about the ONLY excuse for a chevy motor in a Pontiac.

[applekrate]

hey guys. Pontiac didn't die this week...or next year. Pontiac died in 1981. that was the last year of the Pontiac V-8. With the motor gone, so went its identity. After 1981, a Pontiac was a chebby with its chebby motor.
Pontiac and GM deserves what it got. They built one ugly piece of crap after another. They could not get anything right. This is the last nail in the coffin and it should have happened over 20 years back.
After building up a few generations of Pontiac loyalists, PMD and GM pissed on them. dropped our favorite motor. then even scrapped out the tooling for any future parts. I say piss on Pontiac and piss on GM.
after 1981, it was all 'corporate nonsense'.
in 1981 I promised myself to NEVER , Ever buy a new GM car because of this 'corporate nonsense'.
Screw GM, screw todays Pontiac

I am very glad it is finally over, it is well deserved. i am sorry for those who will loose their jobs though.

I support and promote REAL Pontiacs only.

What a damm shame those SOBs killing off my motor in '81. fortunately, the aftermarket has made the Pontiac V-8 better than Pontiac ever did.
and more trick parts are on the way too! AMEN.
No, the Pontiac V-8 motor is not dead, it is alive and well! the Pontiac 'badge' in dead on the assembly line. who gives a crap about the junk they built over the last few decades anyway? some do but, not the real Pontiac guys.

As for me, I'll continue to drive and build and race nothing but REAL Pontiacs for as long as I live. I don't need no freakin' late model.
Steve Barcak
www.pontiacheaven.org

[JW in Texas]

This really sucks! I've had a bunch of 'em & grew up with Pontiacs. At least one has been in the garage since the day I was born.

'63 GP
'69 GP SJ
'69 Judge
'72 GP J
'71 GP SJ
'79 TA
'67 400/4spd 'Bird
'68 400/4spd 'Bird
(2) '69 400/Auto 'Birds
'69 400/4spd 'Bird
& my current '64 GTO 455/tri-power/4spd

They were THE performance division for GM! Why the hell would they keep two truck lines that are virtually identical (GMC/Chevy) & ditch Pontiac! Unreal!

[stude_trucks]

Originally Posted by applekrate

hey guys. Pontiac didn't die this week...or next year. Pontiac died in 1981. that was the last year of the Pontiac V-8. With the motor gone, so went its identity. After 1981, a Pontiac was a chebby with its chebby motor.............I say piss on Pontiac and piss on GM..........

Whoa, word. one thing about sums that up - Aztec. But, enjoying this thread and all the good stuff they did make. My first car was a '74 T/A with a 455. Loved that car. You could seriously just about see the gas needle move going down the highway.

This one isn't mine, but same color and everything (minus primer) and this video reminds me of the car almost exactly except mine did run a little better - at least in my memory anyway.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/m...walk_18081.htm

[Billybobdad]

We had lots of pontiacs in my family. My dad had a 64 Catalina (we came to CA in it 1964 via rte 66) a 68 Executive and a 71 Lemans. Sister had a 70 Firebird W/6cyl traded it in for a 71 Firebird Formula 400. I had a 50 Chieftan, a 50 Sedan Delivery and 56 Safari. All were great cars wish they were stiil around. Pics of a couple of mine.

[monsterflake]

the baddest 61 catalina ever? twin turbo-ed 400 pontiac power baby!

http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...rbo/index.html

[oldsman71]

cool cars, met a guy with a bunch of pontiac stuff
yesterday! gtta love them!!!

[oldsman71]

BTW,cool thread monster flake!!

[oldsman71]

flamedabone 2008

[Stone]

Great thread.

[bossmanshags]

Anyone have a picture of that super stocker that was on eBay this past winter? That was a crazy one...

[monsterflake]

bad-ass 64 2+2...

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by bossmanshags

Anyone have a picture of that super stocker that was on eBay this past winter? That was a crazy one...

here's the thread, but the pics are dead...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ebay&showall=1

some awesome race car pics from malcom in there, tho...

[modelttom]

I met my wife in this car at the street races. 3 years latter we drove away from our wedding in it.

[poncho loco]

My family cruiser.

[monsterflake]

oh, those wacky canadians!

[Rocky]

Some of mine...curiously, I presently do not own any Pontiacs... Gotta fix that right the fuck away...

[Rocky]

Some more of mine...

[monsterflake]

catalinamino?

[Nick@Nite]

My dads 67 bird that he has owned since high school . Has a 421 out of a 2+2 catalina and a rock crusher mated to it.

[Pontiac Slim]

hope this comes out OK
Pontiac Slim

[Old Gearhead]

Sprint 6

[SanDiegoJoe]

even though most of this thread deserves a big meaty mullet - I dig it.

[Bazooka]

I love pontiacs. My dad was a Pontiac freak and I learned to love them too. I wish I had pics of all my pontiacs I've owned. All I can find right now is a pic of my old 70 Firebird which was my most recent Pontiac. I have owned about 10 Pontiacs ranging in years 1964 - 1970



Here are a few old pics of my Dads 67 GTO Drag car. First one is at Famoso Raceway not long after he got it in the mid 80s. The other one is mid 90s It was a little prettier and faster by then. God I miss that car...and my Dad too

[Mr Haney]

pontiac powerd

[Mr Haney]

how about Eddie Hills twinns ! !

[JustBryan]

can't believe nobody said this yet
Is that a real PONCHO? or a Sears PONCHO?


Go back a couple pages....you'll figure it out

[Timmy Z]

Ponchos are kool!!

[OldBlueDagger]

A buddy of mine pointed me to this thread (and I have since posted a little earlier in it with some pics of my past and current Pontiac - black 63 Catalina). I got to digging and found an old picture of my buddies 64 Catalina 2+2 from back in our high school days (late 70's). I scanned it for you all to see. He still owns this tri-power four speed gem but no longer sports the "fro" hair He still drives it, to this day, like it was ment to be driven...

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by OldBlueDagger

A buddy of mine pointed me to this thread (and I have since posted a little earlier in it with some pics of my past and current Pontiac - black 63 Catalina). I got to digging and found an old picture of my buddies 64 Catalina 2+2 from back in our high school days (late 70's). I scanned it for you all to see. He still owns this tri-power four speed gem but no longer sports the "fro" hair He still drives it, to this day, like it was ment to be driven...

let's see more of this one! i've got one, too, but you don't see very many on the interwebz...

[Billybobdad]

I can think of many things that Pontiacs Grrrrreat here are a few.

the silver streak
the red indian head logo
lighted hood ornaments
55, 56,57 Safaris.......made a Nomad look plain jane
fuel injected Bonnevilles
the straight eight
multi colored naugahide interiors in the early sixtes
tri power!!
ram air
64 GTO the car that truley started the muscle car era
the 62 Grand Prix......one of the coolest cars out of Detriot ever
hood mounted tachs
bubble top Catalinas
8 lug wheels
his & hers shifters
the best dealer brochures and ad art
the vertically split grill
"swiss cheese" Catalinas
big chrome topped consoles, with tachs mounted in them
the early Trans Ams
ohc sixes

Above all Pontiacs had power & STYLE!!!!

[4t64rd]

Originally Posted by Karl Fields

No pics to share, but started with a 62 Tempest LeMans, 4 spd, 4 cyl, 4 barrel. What a combo! Couldn't keep a trans-axel in it, but that's what high school was for.

I had the same combo in mine about 20 years ago... Mine never broke, should've never sold it.

only 2 American cars in 1962 to with a rear transaxles... and only one with a front engine.

[Pontiac Slim]

Rumor has it that an investment group wants to buy Pontiac from GM
Pontiac Slim

[Pontiac Slim]

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?se...uto&id=6790655

link to story
Pontiac Slim

[monsterflake]

it sounds like a good idea, that brand name certainly has some cachet...

[56Ponchorelli]

my 56 860.

[SinisterCustom]

Another view of the bitchinest Poncho in all the land.....

[SinisterCustom]

DUDE!!!
This car RULES on so many levels.....

Originally Posted by monsterflake

oh, those wacky canadians!

[monsterflake]

it's hard to tell, but it looks like a dual snorkel 409 air cleaner. it's (street) freakin' awesome!

[bossmanshags]

Thanks monster. I thought that whole SD Tempest find was just crazy. Anyways, RIP Pontiac...

[2afbs]

been having fun with Pontiacs since coming home in 1968. The current pair.

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by 2afbs

been having fun with Pontiacs since coming home in 1968. The current pair.

is that a cal custom scoop? i have one i'm thinkin' about using on my '64.



save that aztec shitbox for the other thread, please, you're killing my boner...

[forsakenfew]

Originally Posted by SinisterCustom

Another view of the bitchinest Poncho in all the land.....

Thanks Josh!

[monsterflake]

all right, i'm gonna steal some from the s/s thread...

[monsterflake]

arnie the farmer...

[monsterflake]

random shiite...

[2afbs]

Monster, you probably figured it out by now, it's the f---d truck scoop.

[Jigger]

I'd name it "Geronimino".

Originally Posted by monsterflake

catalinamino?

[monsterflake]

last of the pics from the s/s thread. 95 pages!

















applecrate, any progress on this?




last ones...

[converseandbowlingshirts]

[OldBlueDagger]

Dug into my Pontiac photo albums and dug out a few more cool pics (including a couple, again, of my buddies 64 2+2)...

[Bazooka]

Found somemore pictures of my dads old GTO at Famoso Raceway. Here ya go..



This one was to big for my scanner so the back of the car is cut off..

[Bazooka]

I ran across one of my dads old Mags too with Beswicks GTO

[Dontiac]

Here's mine. 1971 Grand Prix J


Just getting the motor in my 1967 GTO

[Mr Haney]

more

[OldBlueDagger]

A few more...

[Mr Haney]

more pontiac power

[LowKat]

My soft spot for Pontiac started when I was 17 and bought a 4 speed, tri-power '66 GTO for $600. The engine was shot, so in went a 421. You could burn up a set of tires in no time. Those were the days.

[alfredfromchicago]

I have to give thanks to all who contributed to this GREEAAATTT Thread!!!!!

[monsterflake]

whoa, what's going on here?

[gnichols]

Originally Posted by Dontiac

Here's mine. 1971 Grand Prix J

Just getting the motor in my 1967 GTO

What brand / color paint did you use on your motor? Looks great. I sent you a PM asking the same thing, but never got a reply. Just dying to know... Thanx, Gary

[LowKat]

Originally Posted by monsterflake

whoa, what's going on here?

an oil check on a '58

[signal_11]

Originally Posted by gnichols

What brand / color paint did you use on your motor? Looks great. I sent you a PM asking the same thing, but never got a reply. Just dying to know... Thanx, Gary

Looks like what's listed under 1966-1970 on this page: http://fiedlerh.home.att.net/enginecolor.htm

[gnichols]

Originally Posted by signal_11

Looks like what's listed under 1966-1970 on this page: http://fiedlerh.home.att.net/enginecolor.htm

My eyes can't see those small pix too well, but if I squint I think like the second one from the top as a better match despite the model year probably being wrong. Hopefully, the owner will pipe in soon. Thanx, Gary

[e z i]

Damn Rocky, this car rules!

[Mr Haney]

this hood tach rules

[PonchoJohn]

Oh Lord, were to begin... I've been a Pontiac freak since I was a kid in the 70's. My dad had a 74 Firebird that was a blast to ride in!
I brought my second and third kid home from the hospital in my 68 LeMans.
My first car was a 76 455 4spd Trans Am.
I've owned:
1976 Trans Am 455 4spd.
1977 Trans Am 400 AT
1988 Trans Am
1968 Firebird 455 4spd
1968 LeMans 455 At
2002 Grand Am
1976 Trans Am 400 AT
1971 Firebird Esprit--> Trans Am clonification Pro-Touring build
1968 Firebird- Wife's car (basket case) Big money pit.
and...
My newest trinket- a 1937 IHC D2 pickup. Guess what kind of engine it's getting?? Hmmmmmm...... I think I hear wardrums beating....
I guess I'm just slightly addicted.

[PonchoJohn]

Originally Posted by 2afbs

been having fun with Pontiacs since coming home in 1968. The current pair.

Is that an "Expresso Brown" GTO in Royal Racing livery? Too cool!!

[The Rabid Whippet]

Pontiac addict here. These are my cars and I have owned. 2 other 68 Firebird 400 4 sps, 1 1967 455 4 sp Firebird with 3:90 gears, 1968 Trans Am with a 400, and a 1968 GTO 400 4 sp with the enduro delete option. I parted that one out! Ugh!! I also owwn a 1989 GTA Trans Am convertible with a 350 L98 and its one of 50 made.

[Bruce302]

Hers's mine as it was, and will be again soon. Genuine Jerry Titus built. Everything in the suspension and steering was custom fabbed with factory help.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

[DocWatson]

Originally Posted by monsterflake

whoa, what's going on here?

Oh yeah, Im part wat through chewing my way in.......

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by Bruce302

Hers's mine as it was, and will be again soon. Genuine Jerry Titus built. Everything in the suspension and steering was custom fabbed with factory help.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

awesome!

[BuickBorracho]

Not mine, but if the owner ever wanted to sell... I want.

[Dontiac]

Originally Posted by gnichols

What brand / color paint did you use on your motor? Looks great. I sent you a PM asking the same thing, but never got a reply. Just dying to know... Thanx, Gary

Sorry I hadn't checked in for a couple weeks. The blue is Dupli-Color Pontiac Blue Metallic # DE1616. Around the exhaust ports is Eastwood High Temp silver. The manifolds are HPC coated. The intake is an old Edelbrock that I cut out the heat crossover, ground off all extra bumps and letters and had powder coated. I also plan on painting the blue in between the fins of the valve covers.
Don

[gnichols]

Originally Posted by Dontiac

Sorry I hadn't checked in for a couple weeks. The blue is Dupli-Color Pontiac Blue Metallic # DE1616. Around the exhaust ports is Eastwood High Temp silver. The manifolds are HPC coated. The intake is an old Edelbrock that I cut out the heat crossover, ground off all extra bumps and letters and had powder coated. I also plan on painting the blue in between the fins of the valve covers.
Don

Good to hear back... many thanx, Gary

[riceman]

These Too

[carcrazyjohn]

This is my other ride Number matching 400 poncho

[Dennis Holly]

Need HELP!!!!!!
Anyone have pictures of Rock Running's T-37 race car?

"SUPER SLEEPER"

[62hotcat]

heres a pontiac family. grandpas 62 royal racing catalina. my 62 425a 389 348 hp 4sp 3:90 geared catalina. my sons 62 built from a burned out wreck from spare parts from grandpa me and uncle bob. and uncle bobs 535cu in 770hp 61 tempest 9s on a 10inch slick. not pictured is uncle johns 71 lemans and cousin pauls 65 gto conv. we think pontiacs are great.

[Bazooka]

Came across a couple pics of my old 65 Tempest..

[d-smoke]

Here's mine, 1947 coupe, just got it, lots to do still. Debuted it at Santa Maria this weekend, we had a blast! I need bumpers and windows.

[Mr Haney]

more

[kami-cozzi]

Originally Posted by Mazooma1

Ahhh, the smell of nitro mixed with the smell of "In 'N Out" Burgers

gay pontiac- pretty much sums it up (dont whine its just a joke)

[Mr Haney]

swanson / Huerta's AA/Fueler

[62hotcat]

heres a pic of dads 58 tri-powered pontiac bonneville before he left for nam.

[62hotcat]

funny about the gay pontiac on arnies car. different dealers would sponsor that car depending on what part of the country he was in.

[Midnight 50]

Originally Posted by 62hotcat

funny about the gay pontiac on arnies car. different dealers would sponsor that car depending on what part of the country he was in.

Gay from Dickinson....... who wouldn't sponsor that.....

[Billybobdad]

Stole this one off another thread here.
Love this pic Louie gassin up for the hillclimb

[Mr Haney]

The "Bones Clone" Cleveland Ohio At the thomson gasser reunion this weekend 6-5-09 through 6-7-09

[ThirdGen]

My dads '32 Pontiac w/ a Pontiac 455 c.i.


And thats me staging


and a fellow friends rusto-rod

[monsterflake]

these are from stickshift's cordova coverage...

[stlouisgasser]

PONCHOS! Now if I was't so involved with Chevrolet cars & parts, I'd be a Pontiac man....without a doubt. They built some of the prettiest and neatest cars of ANY of the auto-makers. But....what I really admire about them is the fact that they had the balls to build things, and even sneak things out, when many people considered performance (and musclecars) dead. Aluminum front end Super Duty 421 Catalina factory drag cars and even the famous Swiss-Cheese frame cars, now that was a wild idea. Many of those factory-built lightweight Super Dutys had build dates after the famous GM racing ban of mid-1963, but they built 'em anyway! How about those 12 (or 14) 1963 Super Duty 421 Tempests? That's possibly the wildest, neatest car ever produced during the musclecar era. Multiple-carbed GTO's (you couldn't get that on a Chevelle!), over the counter Ram Air V's, the large rear spoiler that is standard on all '70 Trans Ams required a very special COPO option code by the Chevrolet Division before it could even be fitted onto '70 Camaros for road racing, the infamous 1973-74 Super Duty 455 'Birds, one of the fastest, most impressive Musclecars ever made, never mind the fact that everybody else gave up two years earlier. You could still get a 455 in 1976 Trans Ams, even though Z-28's weren't even produced that year and 454's had gone extinct in Corvettes two years earlier in '74. Now, not everything they did was successful, but you gotta give them kudos for having the balls to try: the rear-engined Fieros, those ugly Aztek vans, the 2004-2006 GTO's (great cars actually). I realize that I've gotten into talking about newer iron that not real HAMB-friendly and for that I'm sorry, but please just show a little respect for the dead. (Bow head now).

[monsterflake]

well said! too bad the transmissions (especially the slim jims) didn't hold up, i think that's why we don't see as many pontiacs as chevys of the same era. you can't hurt those iron 'glides, but good luck finding someone to even look at a hydro...

[Bosco1956]

Always had a soft spot for Pontiacs I learned to drive my brothers 66 GTO when he came back from Nam maybe tha's the reason I own this 67

[The Rabid Whippet]

Also what other engine can propell a 3810 lb car to mid 12 second blasts with a $999 rebuild and $300 head grind which included new valve springs but no portwork with a stock TH350 and 3:73 gears. A Pontiac 400. My car does 12.56s at a measley 106 mph in the 1/4 and does 1.67 seconds 0-60 ft. Who says Pontiacs are expensive to build. As far as reliability, I've been beating on the same engine since 1991 and it still runs as good as it did when it was built. It also never gets past 175 degs in summer traffic and runs on pump gas.
Love them!!! Love the interchangability of parts, and like how they designed an engine that never had a different outside dimension. Thats why there are no big block or small block Pontiacs. The only difference was big journal and small journal mains. they were cast internally different as you cant bore and stroke a 326 block and make it a 455 as the cylinder walls on the smaller cubes were not as thick to be able to bore as big. But you can now buy stroker kits to turn a 400 into a 467 cid block. All for about $1500 fully balanced.
How sweet is that.
Pontiacs are alive and kicking and are kicking some butt in the process. I believe there is a guy on the erformance years that has won the fastest legat street car on pump gas a couple years ago. His car broke a sprag in last years event. All the aftermarket companies stepping up in the last few years is just amazing also with kaufman aluminum heads, Tiger heads, Canted valve heads, Edelbrock heads, and Ace brewer at Pacific Performance racing keeps making some great producks such as intakes, windage trays, etc etc. Also They are making Tri Power intakes, Dual quads, and alot of great 4 bbl intakes. It couldn't be a better time for pontiacs!!!!! I'm loving it as I have 3 68 Birds and about 7 engines. But I am using a Desoto Hemi for my Whippet hotrod.

[7d4gto]

more of what is great

[LowKat]

Here's a cool one I saw 4th of July at the Woodburn Oregon "Armdrop Races" with Rich Christensen from "Pinks"

421 motor

[Al K]

...When you popped the hood and saw this:



Of course,on a 421 SD,with twin AFBs in a '62 Catalina. Those were the days.

[monsterflake]

what's that? you like customs and musclecars? no problem, GTOs look good with lakers and spots...

[buzz bomb]

Originally Posted by BuickBorracho

Not mine, but if the owner ever wanted to sell... I want.

Thank you for the compliment, and here is a shot with the new droped uprights....Much lower!

[monsterflake]

holy cow, that's awesome!

[hotroddon]

Was talking to a GM insider over the weekend and he said some of the current Pontaic stuff could show up as Buicks next year!

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by hotroddon

Was talking to a GM insider over the weekend and he said some of the current Pontaic stuff could show up as Buicks next year!

good news for some of the pontiac plants!

[DMFB]

HAHA, I can't believe you posted a picture of the Judge on here and a million guys didn't try to hand you your head! Pontiacs were the shit....epsecially the GTO's.

[Hitchhiker]

mine

[plumfat40]

Originally Posted by buzz bomb

Thank you for the compliment, and here is a shot with the new droped uprights....Much lower!

That has to be the coolest 53 hdtp around, how did you get it so low??? What a great car. Heres a couple of mine,

[jim_ss409]

Here's a link to a cool video about the history of Pontiac...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahQKd...&feature=email

[monsterflake]

stealing pics from the 'drag cars in motion' and 'nhra junior stock' threads...




holy cow, fuel injected stocker!







more big cars...



winner, winner, chicken dinner!

[Eddiesixem]

my 52 before the body came off, and my newly aquired 53. I actually fired up the 53 today, probably the first time in 20 years, and it purred like a kitten.

[tbraginton]

How about the mid - late 60's when the base model 6 cylinder was an OHC beast making more power than a stock 327 V-8!!!

[Pontiac Slim]

Originally Posted by tbraginton

How about the mid - late 60's when the base model 6 cylinder was an OHC beast making more power than a stock 327 V-8!!!

I had the 67 Sprint version...ran 4:56s with cheater slicks,shifted at 6200.
Not the fastest car I've ever owned... but won more races and had the most fun of any car ever owned ....
Pontiac Slim

[tbraginton]

I've got my hands on a few and I'm currently rebuilding one... the factory redline was 6700 and from talking to guys that currently race them the stock 7 main bottom end will handle 600 horse reliably! Not bad for a base model 6 banger!!!

[applekrate]

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Green Acres
Posts: 757

Nope, that is actually the Arizona team of Turk, Braswell and Cox. Beeline 1964

Steve

Hosting -
* Apache County Motorsports day sat August 29 St Johns, Az
* 12th annual Pontiac Heaven March 27, 2010 Phoenix Speedworld Dragstrip
* 8th annual Nostalgic Show and Go! Sunday March 28, 20010 Speedworld Dragstrip

[LowKat]

[Bazooka]

Started a pontiac social group. join up guys..

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/g...hp?groupid=361

[wvenfield]

[monsterflake]

i got my new Hot Rod today, there's a write up on the end of pontiac...

[buzz bomb]

Originally Posted by plumfat40

That has to be the coolest 53 hdtp around, how did you get it so low??? What a great car. Heres a couple of mine,

Thanks bro,
It has a large step notch, 4 link, and droped uprights out front and 2600 bags. If you have any questions please feel free to pm me.

Buzz

[Engine-Ear]

I am only on page 10 of this ever-growing thread, but all I can say is AMEN, Steve.

Originally Posted by applekrate

hey guys. Pontiac didn't die this week...or next year. Pontiac died in 1981. that was the last year of the Pontiac V-8. With the motor gone, so went its identity. After 1981, a Pontiac was a chebby with its chebby motor.
Pontiac and GM deserves what it got. They built one ugly piece of crap after another. They could not get anything right. This is the last nail in the coffin and it should have happened over 20 years back.
After building up a few generations of Pontiac loyalists, PMD and GM pissed on them. dropped our favorite motor. then even scrapped out the tooling for any future parts. I say piss on Pontiac and piss on GM.
after 1981, it was all 'corporate nonsense'.
in 1981 I promised myself to NEVER , Ever buy a new GM car because of this 'corporate nonsense'.
Screw GM, screw todays Pontiac

I am very glad it is finally over, it is well deserved. i am sorry for those who will loose their jobs though.

I support and promote REAL Pontiacs only.

What a damm shame those SOBs killing off my motor in '81. fortunately, the aftermarket has made the Pontiac V-8 better than Pontiac ever did.
and more trick parts are on the way too! AMEN.
No, the Pontiac V-8 motor is not dead, it is alive and well! the Pontiac 'badge' in dead on the assembly line. who gives a crap about the junk they built over the last few decades anyway? some do but, not the real Pontiac guys.

As for me, I'll continue to drive and build and race nothing but REAL Pontiacs for as long as I live. I don't need no freakin' late model.
Steve Barcak
www.pontiacheaven.org

[Engine-Ear]

As a followup to my last post... I collect '62s.

Grand Prix,
Catalinae (2drs 4drs),
Bonneville,
Star Chief (someone earlier wondered where they went),
Bonneville Ambulance - 1 of 1 STICK car by Superior

Here's a pic of my ride home in the Star Chief today...

[nitrojoe]

GM is stupid, long LIVE PONTIAC

[ShastaStyle]

Saw this one at the Midnight Mass yesterday.....

[Cruzerdog]

37 Indian [IMG][/IMG]

[Cruzerdog]

1965 Tempest -wagon

[Cruzerdog]

Five- Two Silver Streak (aka the Frigidare) Sedan Delivery

[Cruzerdog]

s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d "59 Bonneville

[Mark in Japan]

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear

As a followup to my last post... I collect '62s.

Grand Prix,
Catalinae (2drs 4drs),
Bonneville,
Star Chief (someone earlier wondered where they went),
Bonneville Ambulance - 1 of 1 STICK car by Superior

Here's a pic of my ride home in the Star Chief today...

I just got a 62 Bonnie (4 dr pillarless) with 327.
Had it up to 100 on the freeway yesterday!!!!!!!
It had a few vibrations!
Its getting its 1inch whitewall Super Cushions put on tomorrow!
What a fantastic car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[twotoejoe]

I just got a 62 Bonnie (4 dr pillarless) with 327.

Get that Chevy engine out of there and make it a true Pontiac!

[Engine-Ear]

Originally Posted by twotoejoe

Get that Chevy engine out of there and make it a true Pontiac!

Actually, a 327 could be original equipment!

The Canadian Pontiacs (which were used in Canada and sold in Australia) were a mix of Pontiac body & interior and a full size Chevy chassis (X-frame, non-WideTrack, etc.).

Enjoy that Bonneville Vista Hardtop, mate!!

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear

Actually, a 327 could be original equipment!

The Canadian Pontiacs (which were used in Canada and sold in Australia) were a mix of Pontiac body & interior and a full size Chevy chassis (X-frame, non-WideTrack, etc.).

Enjoy that Bonneville Vista Hardtop, mate!!

But didn't Canadian Pontiacs carry different model names than American built ones? I remember 'Pariseinne' (sp) instead of Catalina, Beaumont instead of Lemans, etc.

[HJmaniac]

[HJmaniac]

[HJmaniac]

[Mark in Japan]

Originally Posted by twotoejoe

But didn't Canadian Pontiacs carry different model names than American built ones? I remember 'Pariseinne' (sp) instead of Catalina, Beaumont instead of Lemans, etc.

That is correctamundo!

Aussie CKD Ponchos were reassembled Canadian 'Chevicacs'!
Parisienne & Laurentian

Mine is one of 4 Bonnevilles brought over from the U.S. and converted to RHD IN 62!!!!!

It DID come with a 389 in pieces in the boot!

Oh.....and I did pay extra for the 4 barrell manifold and restored Carby

But the Camaro 327 in it runs GREAT ......if it aint broke, dont 'fix' it !!!

I put some 1 inch WWs on it today.....bias-plys......its like riding on a cushion of jelly!

Rust repairs are next!

Pix after that!

One on the road is worth ten in the garage!!!!!!

[BHfanGB]

How about a beautiful '66 2+2 421/4-speed? They don't get much prettier!

[monsterflake]

my god, that's ENORMOUS!

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

How about a beautiful '66 2+2 421/4-speed? They don't get much prettier!

That got my attention! I love it.

[BHfanGB]

Here's a front view of the same 2+2, for anyone interested. Not really visible in the pics was the red interior. It just sold at auction last year.... too bad I couldn't afford it!

[monsterflake]

here's a couple of gran prix's (prixes, prixs?) currently on craigslist st louis. i really like the 68. if you want to find out more about 'em, you'll have to get on CL, i'm not posting direct links...

[TheBurnetteSpecial]

I want to know if Gm accepted the investment groups offer. Maybe they would have the balls too put out a 2010 Firebird/ Trans am I would buy one if it looked like the 77-78 front end concept.

My dad is a die hard pontiac head he has had a 73 grand prix it seems like forever since the mid seventy I think. One was root beer brown with gold strips and a medium light blue sj with a 455 that he took out and put a 400 in. I think Im going to steal the 455 shhhhh lol. He had a 75 firebrid esprit that my older brother wrapped around a tree ( he's alright the car not so much ). A 77 trans am with a 400 ( man it was quick) he sold to my uncle, who ran it into the ground. I tried to get it back but he sold it to my aunts boyfriend. We are buying a 77 firebird now

[Mr Haney]

added slicks to this PONTIAC powered coupe. Old hoops went up in smoke ! ha ha

[rustbucket65]

Here is my project.

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by rustbucket65

Here is my project.

california rust bucket? take it to detroit, compare it to their rusty cars...

[BHfanGB]

I can't let this thread die yet! Here's a beautiful '64 GTO from Putnam, CT's Main Street Cruise of two weeks ago.

[BHfanGB]

Here's another one from the Putnam, CT Main Street cruise, a real '71 GTO 455/4-speed!

[gnichols]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

I can't let this thread die yet! Here's a beautiful '64 GTO from Putnam, CT's Main Street Cruise of two weeks ago.

Hey, hey, hey... welcome to the new NSRA! Gary

[buickbelle]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

Here's a front view of the same 2+2, for anyone interested. Not really visible in the pics was the red interior. It just sold at auction last year.... too bad I couldn't afford it!

Now Don't get me wrong here, this IS a beauty. But to me it looks "bulky", amazing what a chrome strip in another place can do for this awesome car. I talked Mike into keeping the chrome spear down the side of our shaved 66, when we got it the chrome strip was missing on the passenger door. Without that strip I saw this same bulkiness spent 9 months looking for this quarter inch wide 3 foot long piece, managed to find a NOS. I am enclosing a similar pic of our 66, see the difference?

[twotoejoe]

That's a difference between a regular Catalina and a 2+2. Notice the chrome 'louvers' on the rear quarter just behind the door. The chrome strip on your car would not look good with those louvers!

[BHfanGB]

I think that the difference in the look of "bulk" has a lot to do with color and ride height, not just the chrome on the side. The lens on the camera and the angle probably make a difference as well. I always thought the '65 and '66 full-size Pontiacs carried their size better than the '67 and later ones.

Still, I've got a real soft spot for '64s......

[buickbelle]

Originally Posted by twotoejoe

That's a difference between a regular Catalina and a 2+2. Notice the chrome 'louvers' on the rear quarter just behind the door. The chrome strip on your car would not look good with those louvers!

You are right about that! Maybe if the three vertical pieces werent there it would be worse, maybe not. I don't see a car like this every day. They are super rare around here, in fact the only one I know of isn't running. Never noticed the three vertical peices on it.

Carrie

[buickbelle]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

I think that the difference in the look of "bulk" has a lot to do with color and ride height, not just the chrome on the side. The lens on the camera and the angle probably make a difference as well. I always thought the '65 and '66 full-size Pontiacs carried their size better than the '67 and later ones.

Still, I've got a real soft spot for '64s......

I think everyone has a favorite year Pontiac. Mine is the 62, I am enclosing a picture of a 62 belongs to a friend of ours in Pa. After Mike lowered ours, we sent him a picture, Bill emailed us right back and told us where we could get parts to put it back to stock highth!! LOL That was a funny conversation when Mike called him.

Carrie

[thunderplex]

Originally Posted by buickbelle

I think everyone has a favorite year Pontiac. Mine is the 62, I am enclosing a picture of a 62 belongs to a friend of ours in Pa. After Mike lowered ours, we sent him a picture, Bill emailed us right back and told us where we could get parts to put it back to stock highth!! LOL That was a funny conversation when Mike called him.

Carrie

...the red Pontiac in your post is a 1964 model.

[draggin'GTO]

Originally Posted by buickbelle

I think everyone has a favorite year Pontiac. Mine is the 62, I am enclosing a picture of a 62 belongs to a friend of ours in Pa. After Mike lowered ours, we sent him a picture, Bill emailed us right back and told us where we could get parts to put it back to stock highth!! LOL That was a funny conversation when Mike called him.

Carrie

Carrie,

I think you secretly prefer '64s.

I say this because your friend's car is a 1964 model.

The '62s are easly identified by their horizontal headlights, in '63 Pontiac started using the vertically stacked headlight treatment on the full-size Ponchos.

Bart

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

I think that the difference in the look of "bulk" has a lot to do with color and ride height, not just the chrome on the side. The lens on the camera and the angle probably make a difference as well. I always thought the '65 and '66 full-size Pontiacs carried their size better than the '67 and later ones.

Still, I've got a real soft spot for '64s......

i think the skirts add to the bulky look. i left the side trim on to split the body visually...

[BHfanGB]

Here's one of the most famous Pontiac drag cars, the fully restored '66 GTO Tin Indian.

[rarerodder]

I am of the opinion that these are two of the best looking cars I've seen. And, not ones you will everyday.

[BHfanGB]

No arguement from me about that '63 Bonnie! I usually prefer the shorter wheelbase of the Catalina and Grand Prix, but I wouldn't kick that Bonnie out of the garage for dripping oil! Sweet!

[ThomasC]

Here is mine Plain looking but fast!

[BHfanGB]

Here's today's offering, a two-owner 1967 Tempest Custom Sprint ragtop... hi-po OHC6/4-speed combo.

[BHfanGB]

Here's tonight's offering...... 1964 Grand Prix. How sweet is this?

[Engine-Ear]

'64s are under-appreciated, IMO. The '65 bodies were supposed to come out in '64 but delays are what they are (curse those damn engineers!) ...so they did some work under the skin and made '63s even better cars (bless those engineers!).

One of the best daily drivers you can have for the money is a '64 Catalina... 4drs are way under priced and they have the widetrack ride that only Pontiac could provide.

[1lowbuckrodder]

heres another

[dana barlow]

The best ever underfunded but super designed USA sports car 1988 GT Fiero,when it was eating the ass of the Vet ,GM/Chevy who had tryed to keep Pontiac down for a long time ,killed it before the world got too much wind of it. But it was OK if the Vet was in the hole for it's first 6 years,no $ made off Vets

[BHfanGB]

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear

'64s are under-appreciated, IMO. The '65 bodies were supposed to come out in '64 but delays are what they are (curse those damn engineers!) ...so they did some work under the skin and made '63s even better cars (bless those engineers!).

One of the best daily drivers you can have for the money is a '64 Catalina... 4drs are way under priced and they have the widetrack ride that only Pontiac could provide.

I agree.... my folks had a '64 Safari when I was a kid and I loved that car! The styling was great (loved the boomerang taillights and the dash especially) and it could be dressed up nicely, as my brother found out. He added Cragar S/S wheels and McCreary Road Star RWL tires up front and chrome reverse wheels (with the original Pontiac dog dishes..... my idea) with a pair of Mickey Thompson Indy Profile 60s to the rear and REALLY woke up the look of the car! Despite the fact it only had a 389 2bbl engine and "Slim-Jim" tranny, he still managed to wear every bit of tread off those M/Ts in a matter of six months!

I still regret not pouncing on the nice original '64 Safari I stumbled across after I got out of college, but I was saving for my first GTO.

[BHfanGB]

Today's offering, the follow-up to the '64 I just posted..... 1965 Grand Prix.

[chico'72]

This is mine.
A '66 catalina, i was thinking to sell it but one of my best friends pulled me over to keep it!!
Now i'm planning to bag it and put a laces paintjob on the roof together with some subtile scallops on the rest of the poncho...
maybe some Bellflower tips??

[BHfanGB]

Nice Catalina Chico'72! I love it just the way it is!

[BHfanGB]

Today's offering..... a rare '74 Firebird Formula SD455, the last TRUE high-performance Pontiac engine. And, yes the shaker hood on a Formula is correct.... it was a Super-Duty only feature in both 1973 and 1974.

[monsterflake]

we were just talking about that the other day, probably the rarest of all the super duty cars. that vinyl top is pretty horrible though...

[BHfanGB]

Although I've never been a fan of vinyl roofs (especially on Firebirds and GTOs), it looks better in person than in these pics... it looks lighter than it actually is. Here's a better look at the top from the rear. The top works better on a Formula than a Trans Am, too!

Here's the really special part of the car, the Super Duty 455.

[edgeabilly]

What a funny movie!!! Jackie Gleason is great.

Originally Posted by Pir8Darryl

[BHfanGB]

Today's entry.... 1963 Catalina 2dr sedan, slightly modified!

[BHfanGB]

Keeping this thread alive if I have to do it by myself!!!! How about a '65 Bonneville Convertible..... long and low!

[Malcolm]

I think this one was posted earlier on this thread -- figured I'd add a video from this past weekend!

Currently owned by Herb Patton of Crete, Nebraska.







Malcolm

[FlatheadPat]

'64 Catalina 2+2 PW, Tilt, Pow Ant, Reel out Trunk light, 8lugs, VVM, Trips, Auto...

WTF is GM thinking? They got rid of Pontiac (a real native american) and kept Chevrolet!!! A Frenchman.. well maybe they'll rename the new Chinese Trucks GM will be building Pontiac.

[choke]

I know it's not HAMB friendly, but what about the first NHRA legal super stock in the 8's. Tom Huggin's 91 firebird SS/AM. 8.83 @ 163 MPH !!!!

[starchief1959]

Thanks for sharing the pics! Here's a couple from this year's Power Tour. Mine is the '59.

[BHfanGB]

How about a strip-prepped Poncho, a nasty little '63 LeMans!

[LowKat]

1954 concept

[LowKat]

1958 PONTIAC PARISIENNE 2 DR HTP 1 OF 525

[cruzingratiot]

my 1963 grand prix in the late 80s
tri power 4 speed car
\
my 65 gto Convertable tri power 4 speed ac car
special order car color code O
my brother ownes it now

[Jeff Walker]

Here's my 68 GTO drag car. Unfortunately it's been apart since '05. But we are down to one kid left at home and she graduates this school year so there's hope for it hitting the track again in the future.





Here's a before and after of a 62 Catalina that I finished late this spring for a customer.







And one more of a customer's '55. He's been working on this car for 10+ years and brought it to me for some finish up work.

[BHfanGB]

Anybody for a '70 Judge ragtop? I don't know if it was a real Judge, but it sure was nasty looking!

[BHfanGB]

Today's selection..... 1966 LeMans ragtop!

[BHfanGB]

I'll be damned if I'm gonna let this thread die! How about a Jim Wangers' Edition '69 GTO?

[ponchobilly]

After sitting in a garage for the 20yrs, this one ran just Grrrrreeeaaaattt to the Drags and back. No tune-up, just fresh oil and gas. I got a thing for old Pontiacs
Bil

[Centurion9]

Here are a few from the Time Machine Nationals at the Great Lakes Drag-A-Way this Labor Day.....Enjoy! This is a very cool bunch of Guys.....Centurion9



































Ahhhhh.....Pontiac Goodness!.............................

[Pontiac Slim]

Some awesome photos folks!

Can't add much cept for a picture of the engine in my 31 Ford. Of course a Pontiac
Pontiac Slim

[56KUSTOM]

Originally Posted by BHfanGB

Here's one of the most famous Pontiac drag cars, the fully restored '66 GTO Tin Indian.

That is my friend Merl Green's,he lives in Pepperell MA by me.

[draggin'GTO]

[BHfanGB]

Originally Posted by 56KUSTOM

That is my friend Merl Green's,he lives in Pepperell MA by me.

My best friend used to live in Pepperell (off Route 111, right near the airport). I never knew the Tin Indian lived there until a couple years after he left when I saw it at a car show.

Nice area up there.... we drive through every year on our way to New Hampshire (it beats towing a camper on 495!). By the way, I even bought my Roadmaster wagon there at Conway Chevy-Buick.

[flynbrian48]

Here's my tribe. I've had others, a '66 Bonnie convert, a '67 Bonnie convert (my favorite one), a '72 T-37 coupe, '69 Firebird, and a '71 GP. Kinda looking now for a 60, 62 or 64 Cat, Ventura, or Bonnie.

[Vagrant]

Originally Posted by Zettle Bros.

Here you go:

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!

[twotoejoe]

Posted these a while back on another thread, but here they are again.

[BHfanGB]

Pontiac's last try at a mid-sized musclecar. the 1977 Can Am.

[BHfanGB]

Just shot this one on Sunday at a show in Norwich, CT..... 1964 Catalina 2+2 convertible. Tasty!

[throttlejunkie]

wish i would have kept this one, and my 65 GTO,61 ventura,63 catalina,72 formula and 68 GTO. Damn shoulda kept em all

[pullinlines]

Bbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddd aaaaaasssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wlspdshop]

Centurion.....Just awsome pics!!!!

[Centurion9]

Originally Posted by wlspdshop

Centurion.....Just awsome pics!!!!

Thank you Sir....they're just snapshots, but the light was right and they were certainly great material to shoot.....I'm glad you enjoyed them....Centurion9

[Slim Pickens]

Centurion9
Those are GREAT shots! Thanks. Killer Catalinas! Oh man that light yellow GTO against the corn field is awesome. Made my day. Slim

[pontiacfawk]

ALOT OF FRICKEN BEAUTIFUL YACKS!!!
PEFORMANCE WITH STYLE!!!!
HERES MY .02

[BHfanGB]

Here's a great example of sixties Pontiac cool... a '60 Safari with 8 lug wheels, Tri-Power 389 and bucket seats!

[LowKat]

[LowKat]

[55chieftain]

Here's some more for today. The 70 Judge is my uncles, who is the original owner. 1 of 1 2-tone painted white/red top special ordered, there was another with the colors flip flopped.

[LowKat]

[31 B'ville]

'29 Pontiac at Pocono Good-Guys 2009

[BHfanGB]

Shot yesterday, another '65 GTO that just looked SOOOOO right!

[Slow55]

[c-10 simplex]

Let's get away from the notion of "made" them great; That's sort-of giving up, relenting to the fact that pontiac is gone. Pontiac, technically, still exists and i think we really should re-focus our efforts on brainstorming ideas to make pontiac last.

i'll start, but feel free to throw ANY idea on the table.

The chinese:
Now, i know this probably does not seem like the best alternative initially. But there are millions (billions?) of chinese who are catching "car fever" and they would gobble it all up. i mean if they could and did go ape-s>>t over lame buick, they'll love pontiac.

A chinese company just bought hummer. There's so much money over there that, really, i don't see why a chinese company/organization couldn't loan gm more money.

i feel this is very important---pontiac going away just isn't right or good for society in general.

[Blam]

here are some pics of my four door,

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by c-10 simplex

Let's get away from the notion of "made" them great; That's sort-of giving up, relenting to the fact that pontiac is gone. Pontiac, technically, still exists and i think we really should re-focus our efforts on brainstorming ideas to make pontiac last.

i'll start, but feel free to throw ANY idea on the table.

The chinese:
Now, i know this probably does not seem like the best alternative initially. But there are millions (billions?) of chinese who are catching "car fever" and they would gobble it all up. i mean if they could and did go ape-s>>t over lame buick, they'll love pontiac.

A chinese company just bought hummer. There's so much money over there that, really, i don't see why a chinese company/organization couldn't loan gm more money.

i feel this is very important---pontiac going away just isn't right or good for society in general.

GM says Pontiac is NOT for sale; a group has tried to guy it and was told no dice. For some reason they chose to kill it and not put it up for sale like Saturn and Hummer.

[dean3870]

Originally Posted by 55chieftain

The 62 was my fathers first race car. My grandfather bought it about 4 months befor he passed away, and my dad ended up with it for a while. Its realy cool to see not only drag racing history on here but some of my familys history, love this site! thanks guys

[SiXty4CheVy]

Just picked this one up a few days ago. 1951 pontiac chieftain

[buickbelle]

As I was shooting this car last weekend at the Late Show in Haysville, Kansas last weekend, I did so with this paticular thread in mind. Now I am not so sure about the color combo, but since purple IS my favorite color, I thought it worked well, but probably wouldn't have been my choice in colors, but since it belongs to someone else, all I do is appreciate what I see. The car is very well done in my opinion.








Carrie

[BHfanGB]

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread with a pic of my old ride, my "semi-sleeper" '68 GTO. "Semi-sleeper", you ask? Yup, because while she looked all stock, the modified Ram Air III motor said otherwise!

[Buford Solomon]

I have enjoyed this thread. I first got my driver's license behind the wheel of a '53 Pontiac and spent a couple of high-school summers in the parts department of a Pontiac-Cadillac dealer.

I've always wanted a '61 Ventura hardtop, but I'd be happy behind the wheel of a vintage Goat.

In 1971, I shot this GTO that was running in the Trans-Am series. My recollection is that it was known as the "Grey Ghost," but I'm wondering if it was really the "Grey Goat." CRS. 'Twas at Watkins Glen. The big name was Mark Donohue, driving a Penske-prepped Javalin, but he wasn't terribly competitive. Mustangs and Camaros were tops.

BS

[Zerk]

Originally Posted by Buford Solomon

I have enjoyed this thread. I first got my driver's license behind the wheel of a '53 Pontiac and spent a couple of high-school summers in the parts department of a Pontiac-Cadillac dealer.

I've always wanted a '61 Ventura hardtop, but I'd be happy behind the wheel of a vintage Goat.

In 1971, I shot this GTO that was running in the Trans-Am series. My recollection is that it was known as the "Grey Ghost," but I'm wondering if it was really the "Grey Goat." CRS. 'Twas at Watkins Glen. The big name was Mark Donohue, driving a Penske-prepped Javalin, but he wasn't terribly competitive. Mustangs and Camaros were tops.

BS

This page goes into how Herb Adams and some of his Pontiac engineering department buddies built and raced the '64: http://www.tachrev.com/GTO1.htm

I believe the car belonged to Herb's wife!

[applekrate]

Originally Posted by Buford Solomon

I have enjoyed this thread. I first got my driver's license behind the wheel of a '53 Pontiac and spent a couple of high-school summers in the parts department of a Pontiac-Cadillac dealer.

I've always wanted a '61 Ventura hardtop, but I'd be happy behind the wheel of a vintage Goat.

In 1971, I shot this GTO that was running in the Trans-Am series. My recollection is that it was known as the "Grey Ghost," but I'm wondering if it was really the "Grey Goat." CRS. 'Twas at Watkins Glen. The big name was Mark Donohue, driving a Penske-prepped Javalin, but he wasn't terribly competitive. Mustangs and Camaros were tops.

BS

Yes, it was called the Grey Ghost. it was a '64 Lemans. Featured at least once in Motor Trend ( very good article by the way ). Had a 400 destroked to 303 cu in ( 5 litre limit in class) and made around 475hp.
Herb Adams and some fellow Pontiac engineers built and raced the car.
It is very cool and shows how the 'outdated' Pontiac motor was built ona budjet and competed with all the fancy high dollar Boss Mustangs and chevs. One of Pontiacs finer moments.

Steve
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[BHfanGB]

Great pics of the Grey Ghost! That was one of my all-time favorite road racers.... probably because it was an old Pontiac running with the big dogs and giving them fits. Thanks for sharing them!

[HJmaniac]

1926 Pontiac Boat Tail Race Car

[Pontiac Slim]

check this out... and its Pontiac powered http://www.gtoroadracer.com/
Pontiac Slom

[rtomss]

Here's my old man's 63'.

[twotoejoe]

More info PLEASE!

[PRO 48 fleetline]

Pic of my first car
This photos in 1989 my senior year dad and i built this togther!
Always have a deep passion for the Goats
428 with a rock crusher m22 with 4.11' gears
Car was a throwed togther and built for hardly anything at the time but i dont think ive had anymore fun any any car i have owned since.
And what was my dad thinking building me a BB car at 15 lol
Thank god he did and the memories were worth every sec working on it together.

[VOETOM]

[QUOTE=Slow55;4436392]





[/Hey the red one is my Uncle Guyle's car!
Tom Hand

QUOTE]

[Captain Chaos]

Couple of my old Ponchos,
red one is 78 Grand Am 1 of 7767 made , Yellow is 76 grand Prix . Original paint on both .
Blue 65 is just one from a Pontiac show I thought was cool

[Captain Chaos]

This one hacks off the purists , but you need to know his story and it makes sense,
bought new in 65 and raced it right off the showroom floor .

[XxStrait-EdgexX]

What the hell????^^^^ At first I was wondering why the "front" tires were so big......

[jtownnewbe]

In your photos there is a brown 62 or 62 2dr sedan with a hood scoop on it. I have a 64 Catalina that was in a family for a long time which supposable had 3 dueces and a hood scoop when the car was new. Does that sound correct and would the scoop look like the one on the brown 2 door sedan. Would the body tag indicate if this is a 3 duece car.

[Captain Chaos]

Originally Posted by XxStrait-EdgexX

What the hell????^^^^ At first I was wondering why the "front" tires were so big......

DOH ! double clicked !

[Captain Chaos]

Originally Posted by XxStrait-EdgexX

What the hell????^^^^ At first I was wondering why the "front" tires were so big......

LMAO ,
yes the body is turned around on the frame and motor is midway now, Les is sitting next to it , thats the big box next to him. It has a 400SD( punched 389) with dual rochesters .
If I remember the story corect , he was building it for the funny cars series that started and by the time he finished it they had gone to glass bodies . I was told it ran 8.60's back in late 60's early 70's when he last actually raced it . Turned into a street car in early 80's rather than let it sit and go to waste , he bought it new in 65

[monsterflake]

just stole this pic from the s/s thread, anybody else have un-discovered pontiac racecar?

[DamnYankeesKustoms]

had to show some love

[cabriolethiboy]

One more 64 GTO

[Hotrodbuilderny]

I've got a 1958 370 with tri power I am putting in my 41 ford nostalgia pick up

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by cabriolethiboy

One more 64 GTO

HOLY SHIT! the hot rod gto! where's it at?

[monsterflake]

missed this '61 on ebay last week, i saw it just as the clock timed out. a bargain at $3400....

[beebing]

Here's a couple of my 69 GTO in progress pics. Yeah, almost all of the floors and trunk had to be replaced. A basket case saved from being scrapped. I must say, I learned a lot about welding! comes in handy when I decide to build a rod.

[dcrowder40]

How about the older Pontiacs.

[beebing]

Here's a tri-carbed 421 in a Hot Rod and it has a 4-spd! How sweet is that?

[beebing]

...some more poncho pics; a couple of one fine Parisienne and Bonneville convertible.

[shovelheadrider]

Originally Posted by buickbelle

You are right about that! Maybe if the three vertical pieces werent there it would be worse, maybe not. I don't see a car like this every day. They are super rare around here, in fact the only one I know of isn't running. Never noticed the three vertical peices on it.

Carrie

A bit of Pontiac trivia. 1966 is the ONLY year you can tell a 2+2 by just looking at the VIN number.

The 2+2 was a option to the Catalina model only. I forget the VIN series for the '64 model year, but the 1965 and 1967 were part of the 5200 series.
For example, a '65 Catalina or a 2+2 VIN will appear like 252375P100001 for a coupe, a convertible 252675P100001

For 1966, 2+2's would have a different Fisher Body number assigned at the body plant because of the different design of the quarter panel. Most likely theory was that Pontiac decided to put the louvers on the body, Fisher had to assign a different VIN to track the body production, Pontiac had to assign a specific VIN to track the mating of the "custom" body shell to the correct chassis. Those VIN's were for example 254376P100001 for coupes and 254676P100001 for convertibles, the 54 being a 2+2 designation.

Now for a personal story. I owned a '66 that I bought in 1970. Being a poor kid, I drove without insurance (legal back then) at great risk. I went insurance shopping and was asked for the VIN because I "didn't know" the model of my Pontiac. I knew damn well what it was, hell it was a 4 speed with posi.

Well, when I gave him my registration, the "old" guy, probably in his 40's said with all seriousness "Do you know this is a high performance car with a surcharge?" I denied all knowledge of this fact, in fact I said "It's a big old car, like a Bonneville." He then showed me the listing, right next to the GTO of the VIN series.

Well, the jig was up, I could not afford 1200 bucks a year in 1970. And it probably was not worth trying to get a price on insurance for my '54 BelAir either. Didn't think he would believe my excuse for replacing the 235 with a 383 Chrysler believable either.........

[cabriolethiboy]

Originally Posted by monsterflake

HOLY SHIT! the hot rod gto! where's it at?

In my garage in Indiana. I've had it since '85. Still looks the same. Those pics were taken last summer.

[monsterflake]

same guy has 'let's make a deal' shows with pontiac prizes!

[Pontiac Slim]

powered by Pontiac http://www.gtoroadracer.com/

Pontiac Slim

[mx6262]

Originally Posted by plumfat40

Cant believe they are gonna say goodbye, we have a 1934 town sedan, 1935 sedan, 1937 1938 sedan, 1953 catalina, 19701/2 t/a... love those poncho's

I love this Car!!!!

[Edelbroke]

My 69

[Edelbroke]

[PhoenixFear]

As much as I want that Judge, if it is a real one with RA I wouldn't be able to afford it haha.
I really like a lot of the classic Pontiacs. I like the 30s ones, and things like a 58 Chieftain would be my ideal custom cruiser. A 64 Catalina 2+2 as well with 8 lugs. GTOs, whatever year and flavor, as well as the first and second gen Firebird and T/As. Third and fourth gens aren't bad either.
I really need to get my project going, a '66 4-speed post coupe GTO.

[The Rabid Whippet]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFear

As much as I want that Judge, if it is a real one with RA I wouldn't be able to afford it haha.
I really like a lot of the classic Pontiacs. I like the 30s ones, and things like a 58 Chieftain would be my ideal custom cruiser. A 64 Catalina 2+2 as well with 8 lugs. GTOs, whatever year and flavor, as well as the first and second gen Firebird and T/As. Third and fourth gens aren't bad either.
I really need to get my project going, a '66 4-speed post coupe GTO.

It wouldn't be a real one if it had a Ram Air I in it.
It would either be a D port Ram air 3 or a Round port Ram air 4
There are quite a few Judges out there.

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by Edelbroke

Neat looking air cleaner setup, but PLEASE lose the cheesy 'ebay' decal.

[Edelbroke]

Got that from Year one -$4.95 It's identical to the one on my dual snorkel air cleaner, but has the added words "Ram Air"

[grits]

Originally Posted by Edelbroke

Got that from Year one -$4.95 It's identical to the one on my dual snorkel air cleaner, but has the added words "Ram Air"

Hope that it not stuck there, need to move it down to fit the recess.

[markjenks]

Don't think I put them out here yet, but here are my 3 Pontiacs..

1972 Lemans w/ nose option. 350/350

and 2 identical 1940 pontiacs.

[440Dave]

My wife and I are collectors and have about 17 in the current stable, but my favourite daily driver is by far our mild custom 60 Ventura. We picked it up in Livermore about 3 years ago, drove it home, had the front seat re-upholsterd and then I did my first paint job on it. Its made a few 17, and now 16 second passes down the strip and always draws a crowd. The remote doorlocks are a little sketchy sometimes, but I just can't keep the grin off my face while driving it. My friends and I call it Kroozado. Here's a few pics, when we got it and now.

[Edelbroke]

No recess on the cover, light reflection...

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by Edelbroke

Got that from Year one -$4.95 It's identical to the one on my dual snorkel air cleaner, but has the added words "Ram Air"

You may have bought it from Year One, but Pontiac NEVER put one on there from the factory! (except the 71-2 455HO) NO 400's ever had a decal on the air cleaner.

[Rehpotsirhcj]

My dad's Bonneville back in the late 70's. He still has the car, and it looks great. I look a little different now though

[Slow55]

[QUOTE=VOETOM;4633640]

Originally Posted by Slow55

[/Hey the red one is my Uncle Guyle's car!
Tom Hand

QUOTE]

He's also my buddy Tom. Your Uncle is Tops on my list!! You and Jim also give Pontiac a great name with the dedication to engineering performance mods. Keep it up

[Leroy 701]

Super badass!!

[Rocky]

Some of my buddy, Darwin's pontiacs..
The chopped 29 series 40 coupe has since been assembled and sold...ran a 350 Pontiac with 350 turbo
I built the engine for the 40 sedan...a hotrod 428 with a 400 turbo and a 3.73 Trans-am posi, discbrake 10 bolt...runs hard!
The 29 sedan is slowly being assembled as we find parts.

[monsterflake]

more pontiacs from the 'vintage stock car' thread...

[TRuss]

This thread actually touches me even though I've never owned a Pontiac. First off Fireball Roberts on the first page was a hero to many...My Dad and Uncle included. They have always lamented that he died in a Ford. Knight Rider was enjoyed as a child and I will always love Smokey and The Bandit. And the Judge was the second coolest car in Dazed and Confused only to Wooderson's big block Chevelle. A '64 GTO will always be on the wish list. I am also a fan of 4th gen F bodies and as a result have seen some pretty mean TA's and Formulas. There is a mean Australian car running around here with what I hear has close to 500 hp at the wheels. It is nuts to hear it. And when my Dad and I were looking for our first project, there was a '78 Bandit car that was heavily considered. By this time though my interest was completely enveloped by traditional rods and customs and we went with something different. I still think of the possibility of that Trans Am from time to time though.

[applekrate]

I just wanted to remind everyone that the 12th annual Pontiac Heaven is about a week away. It is the only true Pontiac event for REAL Pontiac fans. There are no corporate late models. Everything must be Real Pontiac powered.
This year, it is 4 days and includes special presentations by Jim Ewen who was a Pontiac designer from 1957 thourgh the 60s and worked for GM for 40 years. Also Cofounder of HO racing, Craig Hendrickson, I'll be doing a presentation on cooling and starting systems. There are multiple cruise ins, car show, drag racing, special exhibitions, ultra rare displays including the only known existing blown M/T Pontiac HEMI, my blown nitro burning 389 AA/Fuel Dragster, Pontiac parade, parts swap, vendors, good food, music, model contest and much more.
Come to Phoenix in April.
The Nostalgic Show & Go1 tops off the weekend on Sunday.



More info on event sites-
www.pontiacheaven.org
www.nostalgicshowandgo.org

Thanks,
Steve

[twotoejoe]

Only a week away? Where did I lose the entire month of March?

[Stroked8Bore]

F#ckin' Fireball Roberts in Yunicks '62 421 SD Catalina and Marvin Panch's '60 Catalina also painted by Yunick--the sickest GD cars ever made from Pontiac in the early 60's-pure GD monsters!!!

[Wolfie]

My first NEW car was a '60 Pontiac Catalina when I was still living back in Davenport, Iowa. Pontiacs were very popular back then and most folks were familiar with Cordova Drag Strip and Arnie Beswick. I did get another one in the early '70s, a '61 Venturra 389, 4 speed with the Pontiac alum. wheels and 456 gears. Some said that it was one of Mickeys old cars but I couldn't prove that.

Wolf

[Master of None]

Because of this. Its a 1960 super duty manifod, it must weigh 50lbs. but man does it look cool.

[CONNMAN]

>>>>>,Just got outa the Air Force in '65 ,,bought this RED '64 GTO ,,this is in 1966 ,,at Polar Dragway ,,Anchorage ,Alaska , 389/ tri-power/ 4 speed in the C/Stock final ,,ran a 13;20 to that black ones 13;40 ,,got a nice trophy ,,,those were the fun days fer sure ,,later I had a black '66 ,,but didn't race it,,

[CONNMAN]

>>>>>,I'd just driven that GTO back up the Al-Can from a vacation back home in Des Moines ,Iowa ,,4000 miles ,1400 miles of gravel Hi-Way in the Yukon ,,,got back that Sunday morning ,,borrowed a set of 7 inch slicks ,,didn't even change the plugs,,threw the suit cases out in the pits ,,my wife & one year old son sat on em n watched over 50 C/Stockers race that day ,,,new SS396 Chevelles,,442's,Buick Gran Sports ,Mustangs,.,AMC's ,,& MOPARS ,,a really big field ,,us two '64 "Goats" were the quickest that day ,,that black one was my buddy ,,Bill Vaughn ,,the anouncer had trouble over the loud speaker with our names ,,since mines Bill Conn ,,fun time,,

[CONNMAN]

>>>>>,My old red '64 GTO is now a 8 second pro-mod car ,,owned n driven by a kid that helped me with my race cars back then , Billy Creech ,,go to www.alaskaracewaypark.com ,,there's sum pcs of it on their pic pages ,,

[SOLO]

I love Pontiacs. here's a couple cars of mine.

[BHfanGB]

Here's one I picked up a few years ago and flipped to Richard Lentinello, the editor of Hemmings Classic Cars. It had been sitting since about 1970 or so and had about 60K miles on it. It's actually already been in a magazine (HCC), illustrating an article on how to buy a project car..... the only car I've ever owned that's been in a magazine!

[jim_ss409]

I've got a 61 Pontiac for my next project. I can't wait to get started on it.




Here's a couple of nice 61's

[monsterflake]

shit, i'd trade my gto AND my 2+2 for a '61...

[sinatrakool]

bought this from a fellow Hamber in So.Cal. she now creep's the streets in "The Home Of Uncle Sam"

[monsterflake]

these are in this super-sweet low rider flickr album...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8064337...7594581005075/

[UnsettledParadox]

i still consider myself a buick kinda guy but these damn ponchos are really growing on me!!!

heres my '55 wagon



my dads '56


and his '55




also, heres a buddies '55 (although he may have already posted it)

[UnsettledParadox]

also found this on the hamb not too long ago...

[monsterflake]

this week, on ebay...

421 2+2, tri-power and four speed, 30,000 and hasn't met reserve...





i'd love to get this one, ended at around 25,000, reserve not met...





more from current ebay listings...

[monsterflake]

from chicago slacker's coverage of cordova race a few weeks ago...



this one's in the hamb classifieds for 6800...





the ebay SD lemans is coming together...






38pickup's project pontiac...

[havi]

Formerly green (in previous post here) now white.

[Old Gold]

My rocker lying, bagged & channeled 57' hdtp:

[gregneun]

6.27 at 228 mph and it's a door car.

Loved watching this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFYJ-1Mtftc

[The Rabid Whippet]

My Birds together.


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[ponchopowered]

old gold i would love to see more pictures of your 57

[Pontiac Slim]

the good... the bad and the ugly... Our family rides. The old coupe has a 455 Pontiac motor.
Pontiac Slim

[Old Gold]

Originally Posted by ponchopowered

old gold i would love to see more pictures of your 57

I'll get put some in my album soon. I'm reluctant to post a build thread because it's a bit O.T. with the bags and patinad paint I guess.

[1stGrumpy]

Seeing as how this thread has resurfaced, I'll add a little to it....

My old '50 and the Pontiac Coffee Shop in Springdale, Ar..

[Dennis Holly]

E-Bay Lemans, DONE!

[judd55]

My 55 .......................

[VooDoo Child 56]

Well it looks like a lot of this thread is OT, so here is my 69 Custom S, painted in my driveway

[SOLO]

Here's a couple pics of my Pontiacs. Working on the 64 and 69 I bought when I was 17, many years ago. Pontiacs Rule!

[marks73turbota]

Not typical but I hope you accept it. This is my '63 Catalina that I'm building right now. Always loved the Street Freak look.





Mark L

[VenomousType]

well seems like this thread is ot and im going to do a little reminiscing..

my old 69 GTO and my 66 bonneville.. i miss those cars.


i did this one is a stealth bomber themed emblems here and there.

[monsterflake]

Originally Posted by marks73turbota

Not typical but I hope you accept it. This is my '63 Catalina that I'm building right now. Always loved the Street Freak look.





Mark L

that's awesome! are you gonna open up the wheel wells?

[koolkemp]

Heres my beater 64 Laurentian orig 283 & glide updated brakes to powerdisc and 3 inch drop springs,

[marks73turbota]

Monsterflake. I'm building full frame rails that will narrow the rear frame width so I can get these tire/wheels under car, then I'll decide whether I want to cut any outer sheet metal. I'm leaning very far away from cutting them though. The cars style is just too boxy for a round cut, so if I did I would take the original wheelwell patten and just move it up. More like the '68 hemi darts had. More squared. But I like the original lines so I'll probably keep the tires under. We'll know better as the build goes on. Mark L

[monsterflake]

from the los angeles craigslist, a 'brass hat' bonneville wagon with a SHITLOAD of options... http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...893366459.html

[twotoejoe]

Originally Posted by monsterflake

from the los angeles craigslist, a 'brass hat' bonneville wagon with a SHITLOAD of options... http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...893366459.html

Holy Crap! That is nice! But I don't know if it is $32,500 nice or not.

[monsterflake]

another ebay bonneville. 4 bbl, 3 speed on the column...

[oldscout]

Here's mine, flat head 6, with 3 on the tree.

[marks73turbota]

Twotoejoe. Our wedding present was a '65 Bonnie wagon of my father-in-laws. We were married in 1971 and he was a newly retired carpenter. He used it as a tool hauler for work but kept it in perfect shape. I was 19 and could not quite see myself driving a Bonnie wagon but I used it to trade in on an off the floor 1972 Trans Am. So it turned out to be the perfect gift. Now I wished I had it back. (Actually both cars, heh). Your '62 is beautiful. Mark L