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View Poll Results: Should this car be built with Miller style Independent Front Suspension?
Yes, build control arms like on the 1930's Miller Indy cars 87 67.44%
No, go with a Ford style straight axle 42 32.56%
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:09 PM   #1
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Default Introducing the Roofus Special

Please bear with me...i'm swapping the pictures over to Flickr from Photobucket. It is going to be a bitch to do, but I'm sick of Photobucket

The idea of a boat-tailed speedster has been kicking around in the back of my head for a while now in various stages of design. I have actually been buying pieces and parts for a car without knowing exactly what I was going to build.

The original thought was something along the lines of the Stu Hilborn streamliner. A single seater would be cool but I think it would get pretty old riding solo for long distances.

It needed to be a two seater.

I think 20's and 30's Indy and Grand Prix cars are cool and would be the ultimate two seater. There ain't no way in hell that I could afford a real one of those though. But they can still be a source of inspiration for a car built out of cheap/almost free parts. (part of the challenge of the build)

Something kinda like this is the goal




With a little of this thrown in
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:12 PM   #2
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I really wanna see progress pics when/if you do this.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:15 PM   #3
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The boat-tail is the dominant feature on one of these cars.

The source of the sheetmetal that will become the boat-tail is where this project gets its name.

A free 50's Cadillac roof! (and misc other parts)



The roof has had the support removed and been split down the middle.

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Here is a mock up of one side. If you squint real hard you might see a boat-tail. The windshield ends will be at the rear of the car.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:17 PM   #4
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Well its gonna be sumthin soon enough..
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:20 PM   #5
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The body structure is being built out of light weight 1x1 tubing.

Here is the shape of the passenger side sub-rail. Note: a couple of feet will be trimmed from the long straight section. It was placed there to eyeball the overall shape of the "car"

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Old 03-01-2009, 05:22 PM   #6
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Kool, is it gonna be a modern inline-4. Or a pre 1931 . Inline-4 ?
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:28 PM   #7
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OOPS! I forgot to mention the donor car for drivetrain. A 1960 Jaguar MK2 that was purchased out of the HAMB classifieds for $1000

The Jag is donating its engine (3.4 liter inline 6), trans(4 speed w/ overdrive), radiator, driveshaft, rear axle, front spindles, 4 wheel disc brakes, gauges and knock-off wire wheels!

I think it was a killer buy. A Saturday afternoon of tinkering and we had the engine running perfectly.

I don't think I took a pic of the engine. Here is a similar one. This one happens to be a 1953 version that was also bought for a reasonable price. Complete engine and trans for $600.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:39 PM   #8
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DAMN! Now THAT'S a donor car. Awesome.

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OOPS! I forgot to mention the donor car for drivetrain. A 1960 Jaguar MK2 that was purchased out of the HAMB classifieds!

The Jag is donating its engine (3.4 liter inline 6), trans(4 speed w/ overdrive), driveshaft, rear axle, front spindles, 4 wheel disc brakes, gauges and knock-off wire wheels! I think it was a killer buy.
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This... is gonna be good!!!
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:58 PM   #10
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weber's, straight pipe'd, one seater jag. this is gonna be sccary fast mofo.....
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:03 PM   #11
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Pardon my French but.... Fuck yeah!
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:24 PM   #12
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weber's, straight pipe'd, one seater jag. this is gonna be sccary fast mofo.....
No. Twin SU carbs, straight piped, two seater Jag. A yes, it should be stupid fast.

Webbers would make it faster, but the SU's have that 30's look (and they are already paid for ). This is a picture of the Offy that was in the Miller pictured above. Definetely cooler than the jag motor, but way out of my budget. The jag will be cool enough.

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Really cool! I wondered where that Siloam Springs Jag went.
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The Miller is also inspiration for the front suspension. I hope to be able to build similar air-foil shaped control arms. Mine are gonna be fabbed out of steel instead of cast aluminum like on the Miller. I plan on using the Jag spindles, hubs, and brakes.



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Old 03-01-2009, 06:45 PM   #15
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Cool!
Looking forward to seeing this one come together
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:53 PM   #16
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I like your Ideas! the "59" car is bad ass
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wooden frame???, to keep it authentic???
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:12 PM   #18
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Very cool. I'll be watching this one. I've been collecting parts for a couple of years to build something similar. I started with an idea for a modified but it's slowly morphing into something like your vision.

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No. Steel.

The miller is steel also.

Curved c-channel frame rails with cool crossmembers. It had FWD, IFS and IRS in 1936 or whenever it was built. Quarter eliptic springs were hidden between the A-arms.

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Have you seen this one? It belongs to my wife's cousin...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=2069

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