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Old 12-18-2008, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default We Need Some Help - Poster Trivia!

If you're a subscriber to The Rodder's Journal and you've received this year's Holiday poster, you've undoubtedly taken a gander at the photo above. It's incredible, right? The only problem is that the more information we come up with about the...

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:45 AM   #2
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Default Re: We Need Some Help - Poster Trivia!

there must have been more pictures on that roll,
do you have access to them?

they might hold additional clues..
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:56 AM   #3
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If you're a subscriber to The Rodder's Journal and you've received this year's Holiday poster, you've undoubtedly taken a gander at the photo above. It's incredible, right? The only problem is that the more information we come up with about the histo...

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After doing a google search I came up with this link that says it was 1954 if you scroll down to page 149 You will see the info.:http://books.google.com/books?id=pml...sult#PPA148,M1
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:14 AM   #4
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Why not simply call Kenz & Leslie here in Denver...??? Ron Leslie would prolly be glad to answer any questions you, or RJ, might have...

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Old 12-18-2008, 11:30 AM   #5
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There are no flaps ahead of the rear wheels, so I'm guessin' 1953...

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Old 12-18-2008, 11:38 AM   #6
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I may see Ron Leslie at a Christmas party tomorrow. I'll take this photo with me. I have a friend in our Saturday morning geezers club that recently got the original 47 (48?) F1 push/shop truck that Kenz and Leslie used. It's been rebuilt and still has the original painted steel signs for K&L.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:47 AM   #7
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there's some pictures here that might jog someone's memory: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:25 PM   #8
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could it be a staged shot (not at an actual event) for the magazine, I am sure there were not alot of spectators back then at these events, but there is nothing in the background, no other racers.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:26 PM   #9
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But if you look at the picture below this one You will see the car with no flaps with the same car pictured behind it that is on the poster and it says 1954.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:54 PM   #10
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I was looking at these photos of the Kenz & Leslie #777 'liner taken at the 1954 Bonneville National Speed Trials:


1954 photo by J R Eyerman - "Bonneville Hot Rod Meet"


1954 photo by J R Eyerman - "Bonneville Hot Rod Meet"


BONNEVILLE 1954 - R. L. Hausdorf


BONNEVILLE 1954 - R. L. Hausdorf

... and noticed that the strip of yellow tape on the front wheel arch is NOT visible in the "The Rodder's Journal 2008 B&W poster" photograph ... though this 1954 pic does show the crew working on that same wheel arch (sans yellow tape):


BONNEVILLE 1954 - R. L. Hausdorf

... so perhaps the TRJ Poster image was a "staged photograph" taken at the beginning or ending of the 1954 event?

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Old 12-18-2008, 08:12 PM   #11
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The photographer may be from one of the east coast mags such as Speed Age, Motorsport, or a Faucett publication.
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:00 PM   #12
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Hemi, that last b&w pictures looks to have some front wheel lip outline but i think the yellow might have been on the wheel covers..
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:17 PM   #13
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Do you think that at sometime during the week that the tape may have been added to stop the wheel cover from popping out? Or, some such thing. Many cars do not appear at the end of the week as they did upon arrival.

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:27 PM   #14
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Tom, (or was it Louis?) Senter had a huge collection of dry lakes and Bonneville pictures. He has long passed away, but maybe someone who has been with Petersen Museum can help. I believe his whole collection is there. As I understand he absorbed alot of collections.

Rickman would have been around about that time, maybe some of his stuff might yield some clues.

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:56 PM   #15
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Louie Senter is very much alive and well.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:06 PM   #16
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I think it was Tom the journalist who died of cancer wasn't it? I had some old books of his, I'll have to have my son dig them out.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:34 AM   #17
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I say 1954. In '53 So-cal push truck had a sign taped to the window saying "God bless the Flathead" due to the Hemi out performing them. Guy with the cigar and Safari hat looks to be Ray Brown and the photographer looks like it may be Eric "Ric" Rickman
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:52 AM   #18
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OK it was '54 my first Speed Week. That's me with the cigar, I was about 3 month's old.

Ok so I just wanted to tell an out and out lie. That wasn't me with the cigar.

Really cool pic for damned sure.

Happy Holidays to all.

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Old 12-19-2008, 08:47 AM   #19
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The guy on the right with hat and cigar reminds me of Pappy Hart from Santa Ana and Lions dragstrips.
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:27 PM   #20
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I believe the image is 1954.
I also noted as JimmyB says, the so-cal truck is missing the "flathead" sign in the back window from 1953.
Also in this picture below from the So-Cal book you can see the truck has the same barrell in the bed and this is dated 1954 with the coupe choppped

also on page 171 of the so-cal book you can see the person working on the car in a pith helmet has what appears to be a scallop on the brim like the one Alex Xydias is wearing in the TRJ photo

then in Motorlife November 1954 there is a picture of the car at the starting line and you can make out the corner of the roof of a dark colored car with a tipped out wing window, much like the '46 ford in the TRJ photo would have.
Also Bob Higbee appears to be wearing the same hat and shirt?

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