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Member Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockaway, NJ
Posts: 1,291
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Anybuddy used them?How did it work out. Thanks
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: wanted: neighbors in Farmville
Posts: 8,032
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i'm not an expert,but i always thought that gapless rings were for race engines only....greg
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Alliance Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Healdsburg, CA.
Posts: 342
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I have used them in several high end race motors and will never go back! My new street engine that I'm currently wraping up will use the toatl-seal street rings vs. the typical File-2-Fit standard rings. They cost a bit more but really do the job! I went from 2 to 3 percent leakage down to 0 percent on the race motor..... Use total seal rings rather than the Childs and Albert versions!
Good Luck! THE-SYNDICATE |
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Tech Editor
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Redmere, Cambs
Posts: 7,756
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I used Total Seal rings in my last full rebuild of my stroker 351 several years ago. It's probably got 60-80K miles on that engine now (been in several cars/trucks) and still runs strong w/no smoking despite the bores being slightly worn and the normal rings beginning to show their age w/larger gaps. Still minimal blow-by after all these hard miles.
I say go for it. C&A ZGS are also very good, but more expensive than Total Seal.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dairy Valley ,ca, USA
Posts: 1,183
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Like you guys say they cost a little more,but for me I'll never use std rings again.They seal so much better and don't seam to lay down after long miles,--TV
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Nevada City, CA USA
Posts: 220
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They have less leakdown, make more power, better fuel effiecency. I prefer the gapless top ring from total seal. When using the gapless second ring it does all the above but not as well. When the gapless ring is on the seond groove it causes to much pressure between the two rings and it makes the top ring unseat and puts all of the work on the second ring. If anything the second ring should have a bit more gap than the top ring to allow this pressure to escape. The gapless top ring in my opinion is the way to go.Shawn
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary AB Canada
Posts: 2,459
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Two Questions;
1. Are they available for flathead engines. 2. How do they work? (ends overlap?) OK, so it was three!! |
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NorCal
Posts: 568
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Here's a pic of how they're configured, but I don't know if they make 'em for a flathead...
Some more info on gapless rings: http://www.totalseal.com/gaplesss.html http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/perf/987.html |
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Nevada City, CA USA
Posts: 220
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Total seal makes them for anything. Them actually don't sell them by application they sell them by size( 4.000 bore, 1/16" 1/16" 3/16" etc.) I put a lot of them on briggs & Stratton engines in the past. juss to give you an idea aof what the make them for. their web site is www.totalseal.com Shawn
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary AB Canada
Posts: 2,459
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Thanks guys.
They sound like the hot tip. |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Madison NJ USA
Posts: 15,137
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Bttt...
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