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Old 08-31-2008, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

I've seen a lot of cars recently that are painted a flat OD green or khaki, often with a white star on the side.

Just curious, but is this paint cheap and/or plentiful (like surplus)? Can your buddy "sneak you some off base" or something? Surely if you ordered it somewhere it would cost the same as any other paint, right?

Is the primer and paint itself durable? Surely somebody on the HAMB has had to deal with shooting/maintaining this kind of paint.

Just curious. If it's cheap enough, hell, maybe I'd try it on my F2. My entire thinking is along the lines of "cheap" here.

What about flat navy paint?

~Jason

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

there are flatening agents that can be added to any paint. check out hotrod flatz on the internet, i havnt lookin into all their paint but i know that there are alot options.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

The authentic military olive-drab colors are available from many sources that cater to the many military vehicle enthusiasts. Off-the-shelf colors are not quite the same, and don't look 'right', IMHO. When I was in the service we used alkyd enamels that were incredibly durable, and could be applied with little more surface prep than sweeping off the dirt. I don't know what the military is using these days, but I am sure that the 'authentic' products are just as bullet-proof (no pun intended).
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

I knew about the flattening agents, but I was after info on the real deal that the US Armed Forces uses, and whether or not it's any cheaper to obtain than just waltzing into a paint shop, having them approximate the color, and adding flattening agents. That, or ordering pre-mix from one of the Jeep parts guys online, etc.

WTF does the US military use these days, anyway?

I know on HAMB-worthy stuff I have this chart:
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_mvg_odpaint.php

And I have this database:
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_search_olivedrab.php3

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there are flatening agents that can be added to any paint. check out hotrod flatz on the internet, i havnt lookin into all their paint but i know that there are alot options.

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:29 PM   #5
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

"billet-proof".
LMAO!
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The authentic military olive-drab colors are available from many sources that cater to the many military vehicle enthusiasts. Off-the-shelf colors are not quite the same, and don't look 'right', IMHO. When I was in the service we used alkyd enamels that were incredibly durable, and could be applied with little more surface prep than sweeping off the dirt. I don't know what the military is using these days, but I am sure that the 'authentic' products are just as bullet-proof (no pun intended).
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

most coatings used by the Army these days is CARC- chemical agent resistant coating. It's a water based coating and seems quite durable. Sherwin Williams is a major supplier of it but others make it too. It has a MIL-SPEC (military specification), am not sure but it might be available from any S-W supplier unless it's restricted for govt-only use. But I doubt anyone would want it on their ride unless it's an M1 or Stryker. There's most likely a commercial equivalent for the spec stuff. I can get the spec next week, will post it then.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:44 PM   #7
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

You can still get the correct paint

I used the flatting agent and used a bit to much and it did weaken the paint
1940Lustreless Olive Drab Enamel
QM Color No. 22
Corps of Engineers Color No. 9
Quartermaster Specification ES-474 (or ES-474-B) painting standards
Quartermaster Specification 3-1 Color Card Suppplement
Corps of Engineers 1942 Color Card
Pittsburgh Plate Glass Contract No. 398-QM-8694 (No. 1135) (and other manufacturers following)
Fed. Stock No. 51-E-4171-15 (one gallon) or 51-E-4172 (five gallons)
1943Lustreless Olive DrabSpecification 3-1F Color Card Suppplement (Revision 1)
Corps of Engineers 1942 Color Card
1943A/N 319 Olive Drab
Lustreless, very similar to QM Color No. 22 but different chemical composition. Not commonly used for vehicles.
Army Resources and Production Division
Joint Army-Navy color specification A/N 319
1944A/N 319 Olive Drab
Improved moisture seal, slight gloss
See Doyle, Appendix 2
1945Olive Drab, SemiglossArmy Regulation 850-15 1 Aug 1945
Specification 3-181, Amendment 3, Type V
Fed. Stock No. 52-E-7574 (one gallon)
1950OD 3412 (flat) and OD 2430 (semigloss)
Color equivalent to Lustreless Olive Drab
TT-C-595 Colors for Ready Mixed Paint
1956OD 34087 (equivalent to OD 3412)
OD 24087 (equivalent to OD 2430)
OD 14087 (gloss)
34087 is not the same color as 14087/24087 an error that persisted until FS595A Change 7 in 1984
Federal Standard FS595
1960OD X34087
OD X24087
OD X14087
Lighter and yellower than previous paints with same number. X indicates interim.
Federal Standard FS595 Addendum 2
Issued by US Army Signal Equipment Support Agency
1968OD 34087 (same as X34087)
OD 24087 (same as X24087)
OD 14087 (same as X14087)
Colors not the same as FS595 same numbers
Federal Standard FS595A as revised by Change 3, 28 April 72
1984OD 34087/24087/14087 deleted
OD 34084/24084/14084 same color as 14087 from FS595
OD 34088/24088/14088 same color as 34087 from FS595
OD 33070 (equivalent to A/N 319 Lustreless OD
OD 33070 is similar color in camouflage section
Federal Standard FS595A Change 7
1989Only significant change was 24087 which has been reassigned to an unrelated colorFederal Standard FS595B
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:51 PM   #8
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

you can use AERVOE Paint A east coast dealer would be Alan R Haage ,, 34 Main Trail, Medford NJ 08055 609-953-1003
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:01 PM   #9
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

I got a case of 1944-1957 OD green spray cans from an army jeep restoration place (buying a gallon of the pain and spraying it with my paint gun would have been cheaper but I got the cans for the ease of painting the parts individually and ease of touch up. It was under $100 and covered pretty well. Time will tell if it holds up or not.



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Old 08-31-2008, 11:05 PM   #10
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

TM9 Ordnance has the right WWII shades in a lusterless finish.

http://www.tm9ordnance.com/products.asp

Not cheap at around $85 a gallon.

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:07 PM   #11
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

Holy Crappin' Willikerz, man - that's what I'd kicked around as a color scheme for my F2!

Seeing it in reality, looks like I was right - it really doesn't look half bad!

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I got a case of 1944-1957 OD green spray cans from an army jeep restoration place (buying a gallon of the pain and spraying it with my paint gun would have been cheaper but I got the cans for the ease of painting the parts individually and ease of touch up. It was under $100 and covered pretty well. Time will tell if it holds up or not.



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Old 08-31-2008, 11:07 PM   #12
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

Anybody else on here running Mil-Spec or faux OD or Khaki paint?

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:09 PM   #13
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

You know, looking around, I just found them - and it looks like two-stage, too.

$85? Maybe I SHOULD find somebody to sneak some off base or me after all! LOL!

If I'm spending a goodly portion of my wad on paint, I may as well go for CARC!

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TM9 Ordnance has the right WWII shades in a lusterless finish.

http://www.tm9ordnance.com/products.asp

Not cheap at around $85 a gallon.

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:10 PM   #14
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

I also just found these guys:
http://www.milspray.com/

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:11 PM   #15
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

That would be awesome! Thanks!

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:18 PM   #16
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

I sent ya a link to the place I got my paint from. It is $30 a gallon there.
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:44 PM   #17
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

This is original paint on the engine in my 1944 Truck

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:45 PM   #18
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

KICK ASS!

THAT'S the stuff...

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Old 09-01-2008, 12:09 AM   #19
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

Here's the paint we use at work http://www.armyjeepparts.com/order_p...t_bottom_1.htm

It's fairly durable and CHEAP. $110 for 4 gallons,although the shipping is expensive. You might be able to find a local dealer for gillespie coatings to save the freight. DAVEA
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:16 AM   #20
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

That's the place fordf1trucknut sent me! LOL!

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Here's the paint we use at work http://www.armyjeepparts.com/order_p...t_bottom_1.htm

It's fairly durable and CHEAP. $110 for 4 gallons,although the shipping is expensive. You might be able to find a local dealer for gillespie coatings to save the freight. DAVEA
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:03 AM   #21
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Default Re: Flat Olive-Drab & Khaki Military Paint

Here's a thread with a bunch of guy's rides painted like this:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=265302

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