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Old 08-30-2008, 02:29 PM   #21
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Too cool man. I could spend days reading all those patents. Seeing how inovative old Henry was just blows my mind.
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Old 08-30-2008, 08:43 PM   #22
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I don't remember all the details of the story, but at one time you had to submit a working model of whatever it was you wanted to patent. This caused a big storeage problem at the patent office. Some paper pusher desided since "EVERYTHING" had been invented there was no need to make working models. Wonder what year that was?
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:07 AM   #23
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I started a thread like this a while ago sadly noone seemed to care. There are a lot of aftermarket stuff on there too.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=268816
I like this one for hubcaps that don't turn with the wheels. Patent 2935361
http://www.google.com/patents?id=I1t...ad=0_1#PPA1,M1
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:24 AM   #24
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WOW!

I was in a yard outside Junction City, Kansas when I spotted an unusual independent front suspension set-up on a car in the older (1930s) GM area. I have no clue what the car was but I just spent an hour searching Patents and found these,

Air Bags (2133279)
Split I-beams w/ rack and pinion (2085006)
Unibody construction (2157649)
and a weird style clothes pin (2166884)

There are loads more all from just typing "Suspension" in the search bar and with the years specified as 1900-1940
Mercedes benz had independent front suspension that uses 2 sets of leafs one on top of the other and the springs were also the control arms.

Rear was independent as well, circa 1920's
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:32 AM   #25
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Everything new is old again!

Now I'm going to have to hear how airbags and that weird split I-beam/tube front axle are 'traditional'... and they'll have the patents with dates to back up the arguement!!!!!

Damn you Google!!!!


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Old 08-31-2008, 04:16 PM   #26
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This is the biggest pile of gearhead reading on the internet!
Pandora's box!
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:43 AM   #27
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I'd like wallpaper made out of old patent drawings...so much neat detail everywhere.
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:55 AM   #28
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Just when I thought I'd run out of internet......this is too cool !!!!
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:07 PM   #29
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So when does Bruce from Alliance Member to HAMB God? He and Doc earned it.

Thanks for turning us on to this.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:47 PM   #30
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Here's a few things from Robert M. Roof (would love to see the head recast)...

1301007 Roof 16 Valve DOHC Head
1509611 Roof oiling system for OHC
1561666 Roof Chain Drive for DOHC

And one that's a little OT...

1373432 Curtiss Valve Operating Mechanism (1921)
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:36 PM   #31
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Steve McQueen Invented the bucket seat!

http://www.google.com/patents?id=y3F...s_maxy_is=2008
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:09 AM   #32
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A couiple of later lists...there is a lot of overlap due to my utter lack of organization, but each contains a few more discoveries:

Deuce Patents

Engine:
1975837 Engine1921266 Early version Model B (Model A at 1875718)
2020405 Distributor
1963657 Distributor
1976178 earliest Mallory distributor
1998636 Porting
1908798 Coil
2086644 Henry didn’t want an oil pump!
2104178 Bohnalite 180…four barrel??
Chassis:
2037126 Chassis general design
1975836 Rear suspension
2020054 Chassis w/ odd features
1937965 Transmission axial
1937950 Late 18 rear end
1908745 Brake stuff
1908744 Brake linkage

Grill:
1955470 Deuce grill! Early version
1888719 More.

1803761 Need to ship 500 Bangers?

1876903 Tube axle
1908744 brakes, axle
Model A Patents

Engine:
1875718 Full engine drawing…lube system
1873369 Ignition
1908786 Piston balancing machine
1908805 Generator
1898696 Commutator segment manufacture
1803761 Engine shipping
1803751 Air filter…non production

Chassis:

1908745 Service brakes
1862105 (Experimental/non production) Cable brake actuation
1799292 Brake cross shaft/central linkage
1937988 Brake cross shaft
1955454 Brakes
1793920 Another experimental…Floater?
1873568 Brake drum forming and rolling
1772481 Totally non-production version of brakes
1850006 Early brake design
1803059 Speedometer drive
1862099 AA intermediate shaft
1810195 Spare lock
1781503 Radical non production chassis design
1716637 Gear manufacture –production or experimental?
1840881 1931 radiator shell
1763847 Bumpers and bracketry
Body:
1783501 Windshield ventilator
1873607 Upholstery button retainer
1876923 Body polishing head
1998614 Hood pad


1963658 fuel pump stand
1758597 planetary trans…Ford invents the Powerglide!
2037126 ’32 frame
1975836 ’32 rear frame
1908744 ’32 frame, brakes front izzat axle tubular??
2020054 ’32 chassis variants
1749807 BB type weights
1824810 carb rod joints
1975837 engine
1975837 flathead lifter variants
1875718 A oiling system
1921266 early version B oiling
1781503 Frame…odd
1749099 Early A trans
1937950 Model 18 rear
1802913 A carb GAV
1781502 A carb
1873569 One piece valve
2020405 ’32 distrib
1963657 Distributor, timing
2326113 crab distributor
2092269 distributor brake
1975885 bullet wire connector
1908745 brakes, guide plate
1908785 flathead spring compressor
1757493 instrument illumination
1888719 the beginning of the deuce grill
1955470 more on grill
1873369 A distributor
1803751 air cleaner…!!?!
1840881 1931 radiator shell
1908798 V8 coil
1975847 radio tuner
2279671 sleeves
2334917 opposed engine
1998611 water pump
2065065 rear engine…Ford invents the Volkswagen!
1993992 SOHC
2402543 polarity r distrib
1998612 bucket lifter
2057774 power brake/clutch
2020406 cast crank
1992677 casting process
2440812 sludge traps
2092291 torque tube center bearing
2317619 GP lamp
2231742 column shifter
2317654 ditto
2290927 ditto ditto
2086644 pumpless oiling
2372381 ashtray…’48 type
2088841 anti-sway
2088787 zephyr shifter
2037126 B chassis…close to production


2057774 Vac clutch



2669227 hemi

2286695 Asa Taylor valve assembly tool


1963658 fuel pump stand
1758597 planetary trans…Ford invents the Powerglide!
2037126 ’32 frame
1975836 ’32 rear frame
1908744 ’32 frame front
2020054 ’32 chassis variants
1749807 BB type weights
1824810 carb rod joints
1975837 engine
1975837 flathead lifter variants
1875718 A oiling system
1921266 early version B oiling
1781503 Frame…odd
1749099 Early A trans
1937950 Model 18 rear
1802913 A carb GAV
1781502 A carb
1873569 One piece valve
2020405 ’32 distrib
1963657 Distributor, timing
2326113 crab distributor
2092269 distributor brake
1975885 bullet wire connector
1908745 brakes, guide plate
1908785 flathead spring compressor
1757493 instrument illumination
1888719 the beginning of the deuce grill
1955470 more on grill
1873369 A distributor
1803751 air cleaner…!!?!
1840881 1931 radiator shell
1908798 V8 coil
1975847 radio tuner
2279671 sleeves
2334917 opposed engine
1998611 water pump
2065065 rear engine…Ford invents the Volkswagen!
1993992 SOHC
2402543 polarity r distrib
1998612 bucket lifter
2057774 power brake/clutch
2020406 cast crank
1992677 casting process
2440812 sludge traps
2092291 torque tube center bearing
2317619 GP lamp
2231742 column shifter
2317654 ditto
2290927 ditto ditto
2086644 pumpless oiling
2372381 ashtray…’48 type
2088841 anti-sway
2088787 zephyr shifter
2037126 B chassis…close to production


2057774 Vac clutch



2669227 hemi

2286695 Asa Taylor valve assembly tool
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:21 AM   #33
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Great to see this thread after so many years!
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