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08-13-2008, 09:22 AM
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Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
UPDATE! Now with Model A supplement!
Plans below! I've been digging into Ford stuff on Google patents lately. Surprisingly few, mostly filed long ater parts were in use, many cover broad designs rather than the sort of minute detail oft seen in patents. They provide GREAT pictures, sometimes of actual parts, sometimes of pre-production, slightly strange bits. Below is a beginning collection of patents relating directly to the 1932 Ford. Study carefully...you will see many interesting non-production items in seemingly familiar parts. Just go to Google Patents (http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search ) and paste the number given into the appropriate search line. For searching, I set a fairly broad range before and after production date in the application and make "Ford Motor" the assignee. You'll find stuff you want, interesting random stuff, airplane bits, production tools... Deuce Patents Engine: 1975837 Engine1921266 Early version Model B (Model A at 1875718) 2020405 Distributor 1963657 Distributor 1998636 Porting 1908798 Coil 2086644 Henry didn’t want an oil pump! Chassis: 2037126 Chassis general design 1975836 Rear suspension 2020054 Chassis w/ odd features 1937965 Transmission axial 1937950 Late 18 rear end 1908745 Brake stuff 1908744 Brake linkage Grill: 1955470 Deuce grill! Early version 1888719 More. 1803761 Need to ship 500 Bangers? Model A Patents Engine: 1875718 Full engine drawing…lube system 1873369 Ignition 1908786 Piston balancing machine 1908805 Generator 1898696 Commutator segment manufacture 1803761 Engine shipping 1803751 Air filter…non production Chassis: 1908745 Service brakes 1862105 (Experimental/non production) Cable brake actuation 1799292 Brake cross shaft/central linkage 1937988 Brake cross shaft 1955454 Brakes 1793920 Another experimental…Floater? 1873568 Brake drum forming and rolling 1772481 Totally non-production version of brakes 1850006 Early brake design 1803059 Speedometer drive 1862099 AA intermediate shaft 1810195 Spare lock 1781503 Radical non production chassis design 1716637 Gear manufacture –production or experimental? 1840881 1931 radiator shell 1763847 Bumpers and bracketry Body: 1783501 Windshield ventilator 1873607 Upholstery button retainer 1876923 Body polishing head 1998614 Hood pad
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Bruce Last edited by Bruce Lancaster; 08-14-2008 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Model A section |
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08-13-2008, 10:01 AM
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Grenade Inspector
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Location: England
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Wow, glory for the day when you could patent a snap together grill shell!!! Great finds Bruce.
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08-26-2008, 09:35 PM
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Grenade Inspector
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Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
WOW!
I was in a yard outside Junction City, Kansas when I spotted an unusual independent front suspension set-up on a car in the older (1930s) GM area. I have no clue what the car was but I just spent an hour searching Patents and found these, Air Bags (2133279) Split I-beams w/ rack and pinion (2085006) Unibody construction (2157649) and a weird style clothes pin (2166884) There are loads more all from just typing "Suspension" in the search bar and with the years specified as 1900-1940
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08-26-2008, 10:08 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
this one is good
2123005 37 ford rear engine.. as is this 2269451
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08-26-2008, 10:23 PM
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Old School HAMBer
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
and I find this highly interesting
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08-26-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Some pictures to contrast
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08-27-2008, 08:44 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
One of the neat things about searching Ford stuff is that you bump into both Trimotor period and WWII aviation stuff, wild experimental engines (Flat, 2 stroke, opposed piston, FI, OHC...) and the reallydamnwild stuff that was considered for the Zephyr line, not just the expected flatheadiana. Ford was actually messing with 4-wheel independent torsion bar suspension as his next paradigm shift, but then he up and died and Ford hired a regiment of GM managers to replace him...
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08-27-2008, 08:55 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Just when I thought the internet was becoming stale... This is awesome!! Thanks.
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08-27-2008, 10:27 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
This is the biggest pile of gearhead reading on the internet!
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08-27-2008, 10:58 PM
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Old School HAMBer
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
bruce
you'll know this answer. I have a ford latch.. thats pat# 1.771.737 which I found in the database however the image of the latch is wrong.. then I noticed a RE- 19.223 which I think is a reissued patent? is there a way to search the RE? and does that indicate that the patent was reissued?
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08-28-2008, 08:28 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Where is the RE number? Couldn't spot it. Noticed Serial number...wonder what searching that would do??
I'd start by searching all possible forms and spacings of those numbers... Then I'd go to advanced Google and search Reissued patents (with searches recognizing the possible spacing after RE too), including one search limited to .gov domain in hope of finding patent office explanation. Then find actual patent office home page...there will be some sort of contact info, and with luck you'll connect to a super-geek who knows every wrinkle in the nomenclature. That can be found typed thus RE19223...still don't see it in original patent and have not figured out either meaning or linkage yet!
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Bruce Last edited by Bruce Lancaster; 08-29-2008 at 02:54 PM. Reason: More... |
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08-29-2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
I love the first line in some of the descriptions: "*** of simple and durable construction"
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08-29-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Damn, that's a cool site! Lots of other neat stuff in there as well.
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08-29-2008, 02:39 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
The aftermarket of course is in there...try people names, company names, and such as assignee or inventor...and fo many things, natural language that does NOT work for Ford Motor co. stuff works fine in the aftermarket: Ford V-8, Ford V8, Model A Ford and variants, etc.
Some finds: 2550223 Fifty HAMBers wouyld buy this at once... 2362493 Dude, do you mean"supercharger" or "Choke"?? 2507747 He got a patent for THAT?? It had already been in German Ford trucks for 15 years, and people MADE them out of old coils... 2139666 Been there... 2354778 Get your flathead ready for the gas crisis! 2568788 See...you're not the first one to break that thing! 2298408 Poor bastard patented this just as Ford went to bolt-on... 2279190 Fram patents the 45 degree angle! 3559397 Who's Bernard J. Navarro?? 1699260 Ed WHO? 2074487 Not a flathead...not...
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08-29-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
I have a complete set of patent books from the year 1940 and I really haven't searched much, but I guess I will now.
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08-29-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
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08-29-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
3030819 O.V. Edelbrock Jr. - Linkage for multiple carburetor installation.
3470690 Marion!?!? L. Thompson - Exhaust Header 2846988 Edward Iskenderian - Guide means for non-rotatable valve lifters
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08-29-2008, 07:30 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Very neat site..........I sense a "rain day" of searching.
Chris Nelson Kansas
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08-30-2008, 09:14 AM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
Thanks for that!! What a killer find!
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08-30-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Build your own deuce from simple Atoms!
dude soo cool, love all the drawings neat find
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