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Old 07-31-2008, 11:07 AM   #1
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I got a number of emails on this one yesterday and figured it was worth posting. RM Auctions is auctioning off a piece of Detroit history this weekend. The Detroit Packard factory was opened in 1907 and housed Packard assembly processes of one form o...

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Old 07-31-2008, 11:29 AM   #2
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I've seen You Tube vid of the plant do a search its looks very geto.
I think this might work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgVN3ILuKmk
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:36 AM   #3
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What a shame.
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:52 AM   #5
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That sucks. It seems to be happening everywhere in the U.S. not only in Detroit, but it probably started there. There are a lot of buildings here in Milwaukee being torn down that really mark an era of quality not only in the manufacturing of there products, but in the construction of their buildings. The Pabst building for example, it's being knocked down. It really is a shame.
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:53 AM   #6
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Crying damn shame. Hemmings said they didnt know if the "well-known" detroit car collector thats auctioning the doorway owns the whole building or just the entranceway. Be interesting to find out. Wish someone could get interior shots of it as well.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:43 PM   #7
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There's a website....I think its detroitruins.com, either way....it shows all of the original auto plant buildings, the central train station and some other former Detroit landmarks in the state in which they are today. Its a shame. It is ghetto here. It looks like the end of the world when you drive through Detroit...always has. The funny part of that site is they show a picture from Detroit in how it looks this year, and then next to that is a picture of Baghdad this year and how it looks....with the caption "after 4 years of bombing and war, Baghdad looks like Paris compared to Detroit". And they would be right.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:50 PM   #8
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I've only been to Detroit once in the past 5 years, but left very depressed. There is something about decaying history that is so unsettling. I mean, that town meant so much to this country during the early part of the century. Getting down to brass tax, Detroit is largely responsible for America's place as a super power.

Yet somehow, it's all gone now... Industrialism moved or improved or whatever it was that it did... and left Detroit, the motor city, to crumble.

Really sad and depressing.
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I think it's cool that they are at least saving the doorway.

Too much of this stuff just gets torn down & sent to a landfill.

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I've travelled all over the world, but the US seems to be the only place I've ever been to, that doesnt embrace their history/architecture/culture as much as other countries, really a shame, because this country has tremendous cultural treasures, that should be kept alive/restored.
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Albert Kahn was one of Detroit's most prolific architects. Besides the Packard plant he was responsible for the Piquette Avenue Model T plant (1903) where they made the first T, and the Highland Park T plant (1911) that revolutionized the world with the contiunous moving assembly line. Also of historic signifigance is the Albert Kahn designed Russell Industrial Center (1916) built for Murray Bodies. Everything from 32 Ford to 50 Mercs had their bodies stamped at this facility. The Packard plant in particular also had one or two schools, a shopping center and I believe a barber shop.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:07 PM   #12
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I've travelled all over the world, but the US seems to be the only place I've ever been to, that doesnt embrace their history/architecture/culture as much as other countries, really a shame, because this country has tremendous cultural treasures, that should be kept alive/restored.

Cant say i've travelled enough to be sure,but must admit that looking from across the pond i've often wondered why things that 50 years on are looked upon with reverance have often been torn down or neglected/forgotten.....thats' 'progress' for you i guess.........of course,by the very nature of our hobby/lifestyle that brings us together on here we are 'retro' folks are we not,so i wonder if the view of the public at large is different,or simply apathetic.
Cultural heritage should be protected imo.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:22 PM   #13
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As a Packard owner, I would love to get ahold of a brick from the building. My grandfather has a brick and plaque from the old Duesenberg plant when it was razed in the eighties.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:27 PM   #14
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Hers something more to think about when you're on the way to Walmart..

http://detroityes.com/home.htm
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:28 PM   #15
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Detroit suffered through "white flight" and deindustrialization starting in the 1950's. Whites moved out to the the suburbs and took their tax base and industry with them. Minorities were isolated in the heart of the city with limited jobs and even harder to find housing. Victorian mansions were cut up into apartments then flop houses and finally abandoned. Factories were stripped of their goods as soon as they were shuttered. Take a look at Fisher Body 21 on Piquette. They were making bodies for Cadillacs in 1910 (I believe) the place closed down for good in 1991. If you go by there today you'd swear the place has been abandoned for 50 years. One of the walls is half collapsed out into the street! If you want to see a real heartbreaker look to the corner of Atwater and Orleans.

There's a huge building with "Globe Trading Co." painted on the wall. This was the Detroit Drydock Co. Two young guys named Thomas Edison and Henry Ford both apprenticed there. Now i'ts just an abandoned hulk covered by grafitti and infested with vagrants. You're right Chris, we need to do a better job honoring our history.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:45 PM   #16
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History and heritage is just like anything else in the U.S. today it is for sale to the highest bidder no matter what the end result is. I hate to see things like this happening in our country because it’s not just a building to me; a lot of people put their blood, sweat and tears into it. Just one man’s opinion though!
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:04 PM   #17
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Here's a link to some interior shots some artist took & posted to the Hemmings blog.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/paanta/sets/731080/

I love old places like this. I use to store my 34 Lancia inside the old White Furniture factory in Mebane NC (says 1881 on the outside of the building). I'd go over there and spend hours just looking around and thinking about the people that spent lifetimes inside the building. Found old flat Pabst cans in the basement from someone's "unauthorized break". It looks like brick but the whole thing is held up by 12" square timbers.

I think it's going to become condos now, which is good I guess because at least some of it will be preserved but it's not as cool as seeing it as it was.

Ever been to Buffalo NY? Miles and miles of this stuff.
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:59 PM   #18
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My involvement and interest in Packards is no secret on this board. There's also one of my old restorations in the sale. It's very sad to see what is happening to most of the auto related history here. There's a foundation to save what's left of the proving grounds in Utica, and help from some pretty influential Motown people, but it's a mer shadow of it's former self. Did any of you realize that EVERY Packard V-12 was test driven for 250 miles at Utica before the customer took delivery?

And it's not just the Packard stuff that's getting lost. Lots of our treasures are leaving fast. I can say that I worked in the old Packard plant in the late 70s for a packaging company. I've been in it a few times when there was car storage there. I've had the chance to drive the test track several times at the CCCA Carnival of Cars, and I do get the opportunity to live some of it daily. No less sad, and certainly can't understand the poor attitude surrounding Motown history as it relates to cars. Of course the latest Detroit mayor doesn't help either. If he wasn't so embedded in the bullshit legal troubles and had his head out of his ass there might be some better support from city gov't. Yeah, right...
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:18 PM   #19
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:45 PM   #20
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My first set of 39-40 Packard plastic Yeah me LOL!!!!
What a pain, those guys rocked with their work!

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