The Jalopy Journal

kurtis · 05-29-2009, 10:34 AM

If you did have the 10 grand and knew about the shortcomings of the steering,what would you have done differently?

**The37Kid** · 05-29-2009, 10:41 AM

Moved the box or sheilded it some how. Someone stuffed an OFFY in one and solved the problem that way.

kurtis · 05-29-2009, 10:51 AM

I've often thought about this problem. Although the Offy transplant is a good move,if given the money and what i know today i would have kept the flathead but converted to something like Dick Landy did for Ron Mains Flatfire streamliner. Just dreaming ofcourse.

**Mr48chev** · 05-29-2009, 11:15 AM

I just got a copy of The last Great Miller by Griffith Borgeson. It is about #58 the FWD car. It is full of copies of Millers old letters, reciepts and statements and drawings. It isn't for any but the hardcore Miller fan but is full of information and insite.

kurtis · 05-29-2009, 11:24 AM

Mr48chev, Now that you have the book, would it be possible for you to type the whole book word for word and post it here.

**The37Kid** · 05-29-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtis

Mr48chev, Now that you have the book, would it be possible for you to type the whole book word for word and post it here.

This the HAMB, we like photos too.

kurtis · 05-29-2009, 11:45 AM

Lol.

Rex Schimmer · 05-29-2009, 02:14 PM

A close friend of mine has literally thousands of Leo Goosen's drawings for the Offy racing engines,from 1930 to 1980s, everything from rod details to complete engines and layouts of new cars, and he and I are thinking about producing calendars with these drawings. Is this something that most of you would consider buying? They would be high quality and not cheap.

Rex

Beach Bum · 05-29-2009, 02:48 PM

I would be up for buying high quality copies of some of the more interesting prints. Something like the layout of a complete car or engine assemblies. Be careful how you handle those prints, I'm sure they are very delicate and probably could be damaged very easily.

Kurt O.

Mac the Yankee · 05-29-2009, 10:21 PM

miller91,

Thank you AGAIN for the volume of info/photographs that you have added to the HAMB in such a short time!

Would you have a good shot of the dash for the Miller/Ford? I'm trying to find out what the four smaller gauges are (in order from left to right on the dash)? Al the ones I've found a just blurry enough that you can make out the speedo, but nothing else.

Thanks, Bill

50Fraud · 05-29-2009, 11:06 PM

I, too, would be interested in prints of complete cars. I wouldn't have much use for a calendar.

**Cris** · 05-30-2009, 07:43 AM

Chuck Davis' cars are coming up for sale...

**The37Kid** · 05-30-2009, 08:22 AM

ALL OF THEM???????????? Chuck was the guy that brought MILLER restorations to the level they are today, great guy I miss him.

**Cris** · 05-30-2009, 09:18 AM

The V-16 and the Lockhart replica so far.

**The37Kid** · 05-30-2009, 09:45 AM

Years ago I had a shot at the V-16 rolling chassis and passed at $1,500. Chuck was the guy that backed tracked and bought all the parts to restore the car to as new condition. I did get to judge it at Hershey when it made its debut, one of the finest MILLERS out there.

the shadow · 05-30-2009, 11:33 AM

I got to view some detailed pics that a local restorer ,Chris Leydon took while restoring a miller (not sure which one) that went to the smithsonian institute in DC. those old cars were and still are like motorized art.

Paul

**Mr48chev** · 05-30-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtis

Mr48chev, Now that you have the book, would it be possible for you to type the whole book word for word and post it here.

As much as Ryan likes old Millers I don't think he would want me to use up that many pages of his space.
I paid about 35 bucks for the book and feel I got a good deal but you really have to be interested in the details of the history of the car to want to buy it. As I said before there are copies of dozens of letters From and to Milller himself concerning the car and other things plus a lot of other info you won't find any place else.

I bought it because to me just like a lot of other the old roadsters are the real Indy cars. It will take me a year or more to read it a few pages at a time and really absorb the history.

kurtis · 05-30-2009, 12:11 PM

Yep, you're absolutely right mate. One really has to read these books with a clear mind and alot of patience. I used to read TRJ in one day and many times after just to see if i forgot anything. Many in my collection are so worn out i'll have to buy replacements. Now i read in moderation.

wwilliammc · 05-31-2009, 11:32 PM

wwilliammc · 05-31-2009, 11:36 PM

I am still trying to figure out the picture posting thing. These were supposed to be full size. Back to the drawing board.

05-29-2009, 10:34 AM	#81
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,870	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars If you did have the 10 grand and knew about the shortcomings of the steering,what would you have done differently?

05-29-2009, 10:41 AM	#82
The37Kid Alliance Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Posts: 15,675	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Moved the box or sheilded it some how. Someone stuffed an OFFY in one and solved the problem that way.

05-29-2009, 10:51 AM	#83
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,870	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I've often thought about this problem. Although the Offy transplant is a good move,if given the money and what i know today i would have kept the flathead but converted to something like Dick Landy did for Ron Mains Flatfire streamliner. Just dreaming ofcourse.

05-29-2009, 11:15 AM	#84
Mr48chev Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Yakima Valley, WA Posts: 15,402	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I just got a copy of The last Great Miller by Griffith Borgeson. It is about #58 the FWD car. It is full of copies of Millers old letters, reciepts and statements and drawings. It isn't for any but the hardcore Miller fan but is full of information and insite. __________________ Definition of a "work car". One you have to work on all weekend so you can drive it to work the next week.

05-29-2009, 11:24 AM	#85
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,870	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Mr48chev, Now that you have the book, would it be possible for you to type the whole book word for word and post it here.

05-29-2009, 11:45 AM	#87
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,870	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Lol.

05-29-2009, 02:14 PM	#88
Rex Schimmer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Fulton, CA Posts: 706	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars A close friend of mine has literally thousands of Leo Goosen's drawings for the Offy racing engines,from 1930 to 1980s, everything from rod details to complete engines and layouts of new cars, and he and I are thinking about producing calendars with these drawings. Is this something that most of you would consider buying? They would be high quality and not cheap. Rex

05-29-2009, 02:48 PM	#89
Beach Bum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under the pier, So Cal Posts: 572	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I would be up for buying high quality copies of some of the more interesting prints. Something like the layout of a complete car or engine assemblies. Be careful how you handle those prints, I'm sure they are very delicate and probably could be damaged very easily. Kurt O. __________________ "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member." Groucho Marx

05-29-2009, 10:21 PM	#90
Mac the Yankee Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winder (pronounced "Wahnduh, Suh"), Georgia Posts: 5,645	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars miller91, Thank you AGAIN for the volume of info/photographs that you have added to the HAMB in such a short time! Would you have a good shot of the dash for the Miller/Ford? I'm trying to find out what the four smaller gauges are (in order from left to right on the dash)? Al the ones I've found a just blurry enough that you can make out the speedo, but nothing else. Thanks, Bill __________________ Looking for: Early Chev 4 parts Hupmobile wire wheels

05-29-2009, 11:06 PM	#91
50Fraud Old School HAMBer Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Pedro, CA Posts: 5,682	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I, too, would be interested in prints of complete cars. I wouldn't have much use for a calendar.

05-30-2009, 07:43 AM	#92
Cris Alliance Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 773	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Chuck Davis' cars are coming up for sale... __________________ http://www.motorgrafik.com

05-30-2009, 08:22 AM	#93
The37Kid Alliance Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Posts: 15,675	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars ALL OF THEM???????????? Chuck was the guy that brought MILLER restorations to the level they are today, great guy I miss him.

05-30-2009, 09:18 AM	#94
Cris Alliance Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 773	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars The V-16 and the Lockhart replica so far. __________________ http://www.motorgrafik.com

05-30-2009, 09:45 AM	#95
The37Kid Alliance Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Posts: 15,675	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Years ago I had a shot at the V-16 rolling chassis and passed at $1,500. Chuck was the guy that backed tracked and bought all the parts to restore the car to as new condition. I did get to judge it at Hershey when it made its debut, one of the finest MILLERS out there.

05-30-2009, 11:33 AM	#96
the shadow Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: warrington, pa Posts: 1,036	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I got to view some detailed pics that a local restorer ,Chris Leydon took while restoring a miller (not sure which one) that went to the smithsonian institute in DC. those old cars were and still are like motorized art. Paul

05-30-2009, 12:11 PM	#98
kurtis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,870	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars Yep, you're absolutely right mate. One really has to read these books with a clear mind and alot of patience. I used to read TRJ in one day and many times after just to see if i forgot anything. Many in my collection are so worn out i'll have to buy replacements. Now i read in moderation.

05-31-2009, 11:32 PM	#99
wwilliammc FNG Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lawndale Ca. Posts: 9	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars

05-31-2009, 11:36 PM	#100
wwilliammc FNG Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lawndale Ca. Posts: 9	Re: 1935 Miller/Ford Indy Cars I am still trying to figure out the picture posting thing. These were supposed to be full size. Back to the drawing board.

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