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Old 02-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #41
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Congratulations to you and your wife Ryan. My wife and I had our son a little over a year ago now and he is hands down the best thing that has ever happened to me. I am sure you will feel the same when he arrives. One of my family sure names is Miller as well on my mother's side. I agree it is a nice name.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:26 PM   #42
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Very cool post, thanks for the history lesson. Also, congradulations to you and your family.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:32 PM   #43
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1934 was a strange year for Miller cars in general,two having been entered in the Tripoli grand prix in May of that year.
A four-wheel-drive 5 litre Indianapolis car (Gus Schrader 1932, crash lap 8) driven by de Paolo, the first 4WD car to start in a GP, and a 3723 cc ex-Indianapolis Duesenberg for Moore (Foreman Axle Special/Maley & Scully, Moore 1933, 3rd).Lou Moore Came 7th ,but the race wasn't without it's moments such as when the Americans were scared out their wits heading into a corner and were passed on either side by the Ferrari- Alfas which had run out of brakes..One of these Alfas features in the You tube video posted up a couple of days ago with the great Nuvolari Driving.

I see on the Miller site I can access Drawings --might build a Miller for my self...
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:45 PM   #44
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thanks for the history lesson ryan,i love the use of the 35 ford grille
congrats to you and marcie
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:18 PM   #45
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Harry Miller was the inspiration behind the V/8 logo`s on my 36 roadster.The hood emblem was handcrafted by my friend Rick who is a jeweler and also cast the centres for the wheel disc.Alot of people don`t know that but when I saw the logo on the 35 Indy car I knew it was unique and had to have it.I just had a baby boy myself.Congrats Ryan on your soon to be full time little racer.
Check the logo`s on the car at www.timebombs .ca
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:28 PM   #46
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Makes you wonder about all the "What ifs" in history.
What if the steering gears hadn't failed.
What would have happened to Fords racing program.
What would this have done to Preston Tuckers future.
What would have become of Harry Miller and Offenhauser.
The more you look back at history, the more you realize it could have changed with a blink.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:05 PM   #47
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Makes you wonder about all the "What ifs" in history.
What if the steering gears hadn't failed.
What would have happened to Fords racing program.
What would this have done to Preston Tuckers future.
What would have become of Harry Miller and Offenhauser.
The more you look back at history, the more you realize it could have changed with a blink.
Millers Problem was his Ego,Tucker being a typical Spruiker just massaged Millers ego to get him working on the '35 cars and in atypical fashion used others money( Edsel Fords) and Talent( Millers) to attempt a good outcome for himself.. It was disaster from start to finish.
Tucker and Miller worked on other failed Projects later too. If Miller had met someone who could've rein in his talents and ego to benefit Miller Himself ,it would have been a far different story I think.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:19 PM   #48
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(If Miller had met someone who could've rein in his talents and ego to benefit Miller Himself ) add to that, paid all the bills & funded all the R&D time needed.

Anybody That could have done the things Miller Did - With what he had to do them - Needed & Diserved a Huge Ego to keep going.

Great Story,

& Congrats PoP...!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:45 PM   #49
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I wonder if im related to harry my name is miller and ive got 2 '35 fords as well, how spooky is that - just a coincidance no doubt.

his car is super cool, always liked those little streamlined boat-tailed racers though, i like the way all the suspension is covered off, kind of looks like the wing from a plane and not unlike modern F1 cars and such - they were way ahead of their time then - must have had the heart of a lion as well to race those things back then.

ryan thats a fine name to pick, ive got a nephew i call little mr miller and have done for 11 years now.. hes a cool little guy.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:08 PM   #50
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I snapped this crappy picture at Ford's Museum.

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Old 02-28-2008, 07:09 PM   #51
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Congratulations Ryan! How about a Miller parts invoice? I've got all the paperwork on the H.D.Carpenter Miller that raced in 1925.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:38 PM   #52
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and I've got a pic of the Zborowski 1923 car,the only one outside the USA.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:41 PM   #53
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Does this mean you won't have time for us any more? Now I know how Winnie the Poo felt. Congratulations, your whole world is about to change.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:46 PM   #54
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One of the Packard Cable FWD cars went to the Smithsonian, the other wound up in the Harrah collection for a while- I got a chance to see it up close at the Atlantic City casino some years back.

When the two Packard Cable cars arrived back in the USA one went to The INDY 500 Collection, Borgenson kept the other and restored it, purple with yellow numbers. Harrah's became the next owner and RErestored it with a yellow body for some reason, it later sold to a collector on Long Island, New York. He in turn RErestored the Harrah restoration and painted it in the correct purple body yellow numbers. He swapped it for a few cars that The Smithsonian had, and it is finally were it belongs. The Smithsonian has had it out and running at meets.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:49 PM   #55
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Ryan,

Good choice of a name , congrats!!
I too am in love with the Miller Cars , living just down the street we see Miller influence every day. The 500 motel has one in the lobby and the 500 museum always has more than one. There are a couple of restorations going on in my neighborhood and I have a area glass guy making me a Miller Body for my Model T Ford Speedster to race at the annual Newport Hill climb. He has built a few of the replica bodies and they really are a work of art even on a t chassis.
He does two and single seat and mine is a single seat. i will provide picks as the mock up gets going.
Also i will look around Indy for something Miller for baby Millers wall...
You know a miller replica baby bed would be pretty far out, maybe a baby bed with a miller grill?? How about a tail section toy box ??
Let me see if Tom has any spares ?? hes lurking here somewhere anyway.....
McGriff jump in here !!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:43 PM   #56
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Here is a couple of photos of the rear drive 91 cu. in Miller Majestic Special that was restored by Bob Sutherland back in the 1980's.




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Old 02-29-2008, 08:31 AM   #57
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Wow! Simply an outstanding topic and thread...I read everything, and even visted the exhaustive Offy/Miller site. These are big boys' toys indeed! Congrats on your new rugrat-mechanic Ryan. (Hide the wallet)

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Old 02-29-2008, 08:53 AM   #58
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The Miller Fords bear a resemblance to Edsel's Model 40 Speedster as well.

(which is going on the auction block at Amelia Island on March 8)
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:18 AM   #59
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So, Ryan, did you or Steve buy the Miller in the Classifieds?
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:41 AM   #60
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Ryan,

Congrats to you and the Mrs.

Thanks for posting this thread. The Miller/Ford Indy car is one of my all time favorites!
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