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Old 02-17-2012, 08:44 AM   #17701
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It looks to me like there were two #4 cars at the same race. When that happens one of the cars is assigned another number. As can be seen the 1 on the 41 was added using tape.

This might be the Nowicke #4. It is a USAC race. Looks to me like the Bob Nowicke #6 is parked next to Mario,and It looks like there is a #4 car at the far rt side of the photo.

Also on Mario`s hood I can faintly make out Bob Special The word Nowicki is in glare can`t be seen.

Pretty sure I saw that photo in Open Wheel Magazine years ago.



So this is more than likely Mario Andretti at Duquoin in 1964 in the Bob Nowicke #4 .

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:27 AM   #17702
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Allentown PA (almost in Mario's back yard)....photo was taken by Ray Masser.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #17703
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Jim, that's what please me with this thread, seeing what people who have lived the events can say about it . Chuck Rodee was the winner that day.

Strangely, Mario began the year (1966) not making the show in Fort Wayne and then, later in the year, won his lone USAC midget race in Berlin aboard the Caves #1.

This car (the Caves 1) I have never seen a picture with Mario, does someone here have a link ?




PK, I gave the link where I found the Tampa pic of the Wagner team, here it is : http://www.wirphotos.net/photos/thum....php?album=141
There are more Tampa pics ...
and to please you here's one from coastal181, Lou Blaney (Doug Haack photo)




Wynn's, I owe you much thanks for the identification of the car, even the date and the place, would you have the results ?
In fact I've got nearly no informations on Mario's results racing URC sprints and ARDC midgets ... if you can help me with these, well, it would be so GREAT !!!




the legend on www.coastal181.com says :
Elfreida Macs, known as “World’s Champion Woman Driver,” was ridin’ high in the summer of 1934. Just married, she was a big-time attraction. It all ended at the Alabama State Fair on September 26. She died ramming a car through a board wall of flames.




Easter, I just knew because it has been discussed on this thread. A lot of my little knowledge come from you all ...

here's a pic of an hand painted print from Ken Coles, google picture

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And to everyone, a link with pics from the USAC sprints in Dayton in April 1969 : http://wthompson4.sports.officelive....ACSprints.aspx
There are also some pages with pics from 1976 and 1979 Dayton USAC races on the same site
MarioFanKri,

You wanted to see a picture of Mario Andretti in Myron Caves Offy. This is a picture of him at Allentown on 8/6/1966.
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:27 PM   #17704
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sad story, but I love the pic (Joly Roger)

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the legend on www.coastal181.com says :
Elfreida Macs, known as “World’s Champion Woman Driver,” was ridin’ high in the summer of 1934. Just married, she was a big-time attraction. It all ended at the Alabama State Fair on September 26. She died ramming a car through a board wall of flames.
Sorry, but that's not Elfrieda Mais (correct spelling). Frieda was the sister* of the prominent racing driver Johnny Mais from Indianapolis, and she raced for a at least a couple of decades before she perished in 1934. She was quite a bit older than this young girl by 1926/7 when this picture was taken.

I'm not sure who this is, but I seem to recall that she was the wife (or girlfriend) of Frank "Dizzy" Hefling of Illinois, who built and raced this early Midget.

* Some accounts say she was Johnny's wife, but in 1932 she was reportedly married to another driver, Ray La Plante of Newark (NJ). Maybe she and Johnny divorced.
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:36 PM   #17705
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Nifty car and resto. In the dumb ? department, what is that black tank / box to the right of the engine for? A foot well? Thanx, Gary

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Old 02-17-2012, 03:12 PM   #17706
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So this is more than likely Mario Andretti at Duquoin in 1964 in the Bob Nowicke #4 .
I agree ...
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Old 02-17-2012, 03:15 PM   #17707
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MarioFanKri,

You wanted to see a picture of Mario Andretti in Myron Caves Offy. This is a picture of him at Allentown on 8/6/1966.
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Thanks a lot, Monkaz, it's a really good quality photo.
If you've got others, please do not hesitate ...
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Sorry, but that's not Elfrieda Mais (correct spelling). Frieda was the sister* of the prominent racing driver Johnny Mais from Indianapolis, and she raced for a at least a couple of decades before she perished in 1934. She was quite a bit older than this young girl by 1926/7 when this picture was taken.

I'm not sure who this is, but I seem to recall that she was the wife (or girlfriend) of Frank "Dizzy" Hefling of Illinois, who built and raced this early Midget.

* Some accounts say she was Johnny's wife, but in 1932 she was reportedly married to another driver, Ray La Plante of Newark (NJ). Maybe she and Johnny divorced.
Thanks Michael for the precisions, you seem to have great great knowledge about earliest auto racing. Your posts are always full of things to learn. I think remembering you posted on another thread about the 1946 Champ Car season, it was very interresting ...
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:28 PM   #17709
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I picked up this car this summer! it was built and campaigned by Buck Heberling from Rosebud Alberta. I also got a 68 Camaro stock car from his Widow. Both are for sale and should be restored
I wonder if the wanna-be SuperBee in the background middle picture is for sale?
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Old 02-18-2012, 02:27 PM   #17710
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RE--Post #'s 17675 & 17687-- Photo of the Wagner cars-- 62 & 63-- Other than the drivers ( Jerry & Scratch ) Can someone identify the others in the photo? Could one of them be Bill McDonald, if so is he still around?
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:30 AM   #17711
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Mario Fan,
I was at Berlin driving for Mr. Hartley. I blew an rngine and Mario won. It was a paved trackand somebody was oiling it down bad and was very slick. Mario was sideways more than he was straight, but was standing on the gas. Mike McGreevey started out the year in the Caves car, it was a short car and did not handle real well but had plenty of power. I started on the pole at Louisville in June with Mike outsideand he beat to the first turn. I broke again and think Mike won the race in the Caves car.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:45 PM   #17712
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.....'Jim, Excellent tid-bits and trivia of great midget racing history of a great era. I hope you keep it up. 'Checking the record book, in that photo of Andretti at Allentown on 08/06/66, Don Meacham won the race that day in Myron's other car. Meacham had a great year in 1966. And that race in June at Louisville, that you started on the pole, Sonny Ates won the race that day in Lloyd Rahn's car.

'Maybe next time 'flubyu' talks to Mike on the phone, he can ask him why he quit the Caves car to go drive the Kincaid Barber Shop car??? Because Myron Caves was one of the most cordial and nicest guys you'd ever meet.

Recently, over on a site that discusses Australian midget racing history, a woman chimed in on a bunch of pics of Tattersall, Meacham and the guys racing down under and said: 'That's my Dad!' It was Don Meacham's daughter. Don was down there in the last couple of years for some kind of reunion.
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:51 PM   #17713
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LittleFauss,
I did not think the picture taken 08/06/66 was the same car I saw at Louisville. My second ride in a full midget was in Curley Rahn's OLD KK at the Hut 100 in 65, started 15th [AJ was 17th], he won and I blew up. Curley's car that Sonny drove was a new car in 66 [Johnny Pawl car I think]. Sonny and I lived about 30 miles apart so we traveled together a lot in 65 [when I was looking for a ride, with his help] and 66 when Idrove for Mr. Hartley.
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:02 AM   #17714
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:44 AM   #17715
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Don Meacham in Australia.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:23 AM   #17716
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My dad Danny Sr drove that car at Granit City USAC show in Sept of 66. Dad was 6ft 1 and he said his knees were under his chin. He said it was a really neet car. and really handled. I think they broke something thtat night . That was a long time ago. He couldn't think about getting into a car today with the seats and motors set back.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:12 PM   #17717
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Yes, that is the foot box, your toes go past the engine.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:24 PM   #17718
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Yes, that is the foot box, your toes go past the engine.
Thanx! I was guessing that, just needed some confirmation. Gary
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:53 PM   #17719
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.....'Jim, Excellent tid-bits and trivia of great midget racing history of a great era. I hope you keep it up. 'Checking the record book, in that photo of Andretti at Allentown on 08/06/66, Don Meacham won the race that day in Myron's other car. Meacham had a great year in 1966. And that race in June at Louisville, that you started on the pole, Sonny Ates won the race that day in Lloyd Rahn's car.

'Maybe next time 'flubyu' talks to Mike on the phone, he can ask him why he quit the Caves car to go drive the Kincaid Barber Shop car??? Because Myron Caves was one of the most cordial and nicest guys you'd ever meet.

Recently, over on a site that discusses Australian midget racing history, a woman chimed in on a bunch of pics of Tattersall, Meacham and the guys racing down under and said: 'That's my Dad!' It was Don Meacham's daughter. Don was down there in the last couple of years for some kind of reunion.
Will do Little Fauss been a month or so anyhow since I talked with Mike he said he had a spot of possable cancer he was dealing with but as always remained very upbeat by saying he is staying ahead of it as always.
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Old 02-20-2012, 06:24 PM   #17720
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Just he4ard about the help Josh Shaw has done for the racer who lost his home to fire. It dont surprise me to hear that Josh was ready to help!!!
Josh Shaw is, inj my opinion, one of the best people i have ever heard of in this world, now or ever!!!
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