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Old 12-04-2007, 08:33 PM   #1
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Default Let's Talk Cyclecars

Driving home from school today, listening to NPR, I hear talk about the SmartCar coming to the U.S. in January. Which gets me to thinking about small cars. Which gets me to thinking about the Fiat 500 I see in the parking lot every now and then and how I fantasize about putting a Hayabusa engine in one. Which further leads to me thinking about motorcycle engines in four-wheeled contraptions in general.

How about one of these:



Stuffed into one of these?



What have you got?

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:03 PM   #2
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Default Re: Let's Talk Cyclecars

I know the one you're talking about. It had a wooden boattail, didn't it? I have pictures saved on my laptop. I didn't realize it had been finished.

For some reason, the four-wheeled variety appeals to me more, although I'm not entirely sure how you'd do a differential from a chain drive. Harley-Davidson evidently had it figured out with the Servicar, however:



Kinda looks like a Ford banjo, doesn't it?

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:04 PM   #3
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This is the thread that made me want to build one: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=201625






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Old 12-04-2007, 09:06 PM   #4
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Having gotten your link to work...

I like the Velorex. Especially the fabric bodywork. Looks more practical for inclement weather than my Dudley Bug, too.

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:06 PM   #5
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Interesting idea. There have been more than a few folks who've swapped a BMW twin into a CitroŽn 2CV, bringing it up from 425 or 602cc to 1000cc or more.
As to the Dudley Bug, it already has a twin cylinder motorcycle-type engine in it. Specs are scarce, but likely a Spacke.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:09 PM   #6
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I did a little what if about a bike car a few years ago.... It's always in the back of my mind.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...+crotch+rocket
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:09 PM   #7
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There's a company that makes a transmission for HD's (and other motorcycles) that includes a reverse gear and allows connection to a regular automotive axle. Pricey at around $1500 but available.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:10 PM   #8
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That is the coolest! A bit more engine than I had envisioned, but the hardwood framerails are most inspirational.

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:17 PM   #9
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A couple of random pics...
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:21 PM   #10
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As to the Dudley Bug, it already has a twin cylinder motorcycle-type engine in it. Specs are scarce, but likely a Spacke.
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Hmm...



...the Spacke isn't quite as gutsy looking as the Knuck, but not bad. Still, the odds of finding a Dudley to hot rod seem slim.

What are these GN cars mentioned in the thread with the JAP V8 cyclecar? I saw them referenced in November's banger meeting as well. They're kinda cool. Doesn't look like they use a differential at all, though.

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:27 PM   #11
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did you Smart? did you say hyabusa? ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIizRp9ck
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:32 PM   #12
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did you Smart? did you say hyabusa? ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIizRp9ck
hahaha, that's crazy. I'll bet he doesn't get quite the original 40mpg anymore. But the upshot is that he can still park perpendicular to the curb.

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:34 PM   #13
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Issetta + Hayabusa....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJgxM...eature=related
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:58 PM   #14
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This is the Pop Dryer built Catfish, powered by a Harley Knucklehead, it had a lot of great drivers. One an East Coast Chanpionship in the late 1930's with Bill Schindler driving. NEVER sell a racecar before you do the research on it!!!!!!!!! I sold it to a friend in the mid 1970's for $100.00 before I knew what it was.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:18 PM   #15
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This is a 1915 Baby Cup Racer, one of a pack of 12-15 Harley Twin powered cars. They toured the USA and Japan all with different grills to represent big cars of the era.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:34 PM   #16
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Here's a slightly different one powered by a 750 HondaMatic.The body was a kit built awhile back(don't recall the name).It was 'glass formed over wood.There was a large bulkhead in back where the bike bolted on.You removed the front fork and attached the whole bike to the bulkhead.It was two passenger and the top was hinged to allow entry.There was a provision for reversing but it was a bit complicated.It involved putting the bike in neutral and then pulling a lever that worked a cable that led back to a 12v cycle starter motor with a rubber donut attached to the drive end.This lowered the donut against the rear tire.You then switched on the motor and it(supposedly)turned the tire to allow you to back up.Not having any rearward vision didn't help matters either.But this thing was built over 20 years ago.sort of looks like a Bricklin in front.A friend of mine owned it for awhile but (wisely)moved on to other more practical things.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:46 PM   #17
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The Hot Rod Hawg had my intrest a couple of years ago.

http://www.rbimovies.nl/media/amt/Mo...mv?rnd=5038383

Some people have turned those legend cars street legal.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:59 PM   #18
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A street version of a Legends car would kick ass. Not sure it would be entirely impractical, either.
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Old 12-05-2007, 12:14 AM   #19
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Morgans are the ones I like!,Pure simplicity with huge performance from really ancient J.A.P engines.
http://www.morgan3w.de/technic/technic.htm
heres one in action
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Here is a Legends car....
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