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Old 11-23-2007, 09:14 AM   #1
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Default Mothballs in gas tank... DANGER!!!!

We all know about the old timers trick of putting mothballs in your gas tank and the edge it gives you when racing, but be carefull how you handle them! both my self and my wife Kathy (Krazy Kate)became extreamly ill after handleing them. Kathy remains ill, her white blood cell count has become very low and she has flu like symptoms. The doctors say that there is NO treatment for this and only there is a small chance of her condition improving. I saw several racers using mothballs at the day of the drags... I would not wish this condition on anybody!!
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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cripes

knew a couple of people that wanted to clean out the attic from critters and ended up in the hospital

steroids and


mostly blood transfusions , get the bad blood gasses out and new blood in that
cleared them up

hope the docs at least try that pretty common thing mothball poisoning




along with being sick for 6 months
just horrible



yet you can by the stuff at most any store
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:23 AM   #3
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wow! dam!..i never knew this..havent ever messed with them, but thanks for the heads up!
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:28 AM   #4
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Default Re: Mothballs in gas tank... DANGER!!!!

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We all know about the old timers trick of putting mothballs in your gas tank and the edge it gives you when racing

whaty edge does it give you? i've never heard of this...

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Old 11-23-2007, 10:33 AM   #5
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been ill myself recently.
just bought an old ladys house.
all closets had mothballs in them.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:36 AM   #6
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Holly Crap ... Found this ............. ;-(

Moth balls are made from naphthalene, a hydrocarbon derived from coal tar that easily sublimates, or exudes gas acting as a fumigant. However these gases must build to high concentrations to be effective.

Moth balls made with naphthalene are toxic and high levels of exposure can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, blood in the urine and jaundice, a yellow appearance to the skin. Naphthalene can also kill red blood cells. Though your body can replace them, in the interim the condition is referred to as hemolytic anemia. Hospitals have reported a high incidence of hemolytic anemia in newborns and small children who were dressed in clothing or wrapped in blankets that had been stored in naphthalene moth balls. In pregnant women, naphthalene can transfer from the mother's bloodstream into the bloodstream of her unborn baby. The toxin has also been detected in breast milk, though not in quantities that are thought to be of concern. Naphthalene has also been linked to nasal cancer.

Moth balls look like gumballs or candy and therefore can be a danger to both children and pets, in which they can be fatal if swallowed. If using naphthalene moth balls, it's safest to store clothing in an air tight container along with the moth balls. All clothing should be fully aired out or washed before wearing.

Moth crystals are made from paradichlorobenzene (PDB), which is considered more toxic than naphthalene. PDB also sublimates easily and clothes should again be kept in a sealed container along with the PDB. Again, all goods should be fully aired or washed before wearing or using. Prolonged exposure of PDB vapors on plastics may melt them, affecting some sweater boxes and other types of plastic. It is therefore not recommended to use on clothes with plastic buttons or decorations. The effects on humans of PDB are not well-known, but related compounds do have associated health risks and PDB is a suspected human carcinogen, causing cancer in animals. Therefore minimum exposure is recommended when using moth crystals.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:39 AM   #7
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good to know, thanks and sorry to you.
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:41 AM   #8
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sounds like this shit should have an MSDS sheet to come with it when you buy it..or does it and people dont read up on it?
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:42 AM   #9
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From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/


6.20 Can mothballs increase octane?

The legend of mothballs as an octane enhancer arose well before WWII when
naphthalene was used as the active ingredient. Today, the majority of
mothballs use para-dichlorobenzene in place of naphthalene, so choose
carefully if you wish to experiment :-). There have been some concerns about
the toxicity of para-dichlorobenzene, and naphthalene mothballs have again
become popular. In the 1920s, typical gasoline octane ratings were 40-60
[11], and during the 1930s and 40s, the ratings increased by approximately 20
units as alkyl leads and improved refining processes became widespread [12].

Naphthalene has a blending motor octane number of 90 [52], so the addition of
a significant amount of mothballs could increase the octane, and they were
soluble in gasoline. The amount usually required to appreciably increase the
octane also had some adverse effects. The most obvious was due to the high
melting point ( 80C ), when the fuel evaporated the naphthalene would
precipitate out, blocking jets and filters. With modern gasolines,
naphthalene is more likely to reduce the octane rating, and the amount
required for low octane fuels will also create operational and emissions
problems.


The scary part is here http://www.purdue.edu/dp/envirosoft/...e/mothball.htm


Newer mothballs are PARADICHLOROBENZENE - Vapor irritates skin, eyes and respiratory tract; large doses can cause injury to liver; suspected carcinogen
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:45 AM   #10
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Wow,you certainly learn something new every day huh,the other half's got a box of vintage coats sealed up with mothballs in it,will be careful when handling that lot now......all the best irishpol,hope things improve for you guys
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:17 AM   #11
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Thanks for your replys and kind thoughts. At a time of confusion and despair the HAMB comes through! now we have some idear of what's going on and some hope....
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:36 AM   #12
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Wow I never new mothballs were so dangerous, I always thought they were just meant to stink bad not kill people. I think there needs to be a better warning on the packaging as i have never heard of any of this and I use mothballs all the time in a building I store cars in.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:40 AM   #13
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Goof information to have. Thanks!
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:56 AM   #14
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Sorry to hear this and Prayers are up for yall. Now who was useing mothballs at the drags ??
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:58 AM   #15
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Damn, this news is scary! I'll just pay the $ for high octane race fuel....it won't make you sick - or will it?
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:11 PM   #16
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Damn, this news is scary! I'll just pay the $ for high octane race fuel....it won't make you sick - or will it?
It smells better also !!
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:12 PM   #17
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Mothballs in gas is a bunch of bull... just google it and you'll see...
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:33 PM   #18
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I've never smelled a moth's balls.
A bee's balls do smell like honey, however.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:47 PM   #19
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I have used moth balls to run a skunk out of a building. Seems it makes them sick. I will be leery of using it again though.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:48 PM   #20
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Sorry to hear this and Prayers are up for yall. Now who was useing mothballs at the drags ??
I was one ! dam sorry to here this , pol and kate . love to you both !
I hope it wears off quick .
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