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**Ryan** · 11-08-2007, 10:29 AM

Woah... Thanks to "Minewithnoshine" for the tip. Seems like he was doing some research for a photogr...

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Stevie G · 11-08-2007, 10:39 AM

The George Eastman House has an awesome collection of stills and "Moving pictures". Any of you in the area that haven't taken a tour....get off your butts.
So, what became of the Long Island Motor Parkway?
Is it now the LIE?

THE235KID · 11-08-2007, 10:43 AM

That is awsome. Those guys were crazy

**Ryan** · 11-08-2007, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie G

The George Eastman House has an awesome collection of stills and "Moving pictures". Any of you in the area that haven't taken a tour....get off your butts.
So, what became of the Long Island Motor Parkway?
Is it now the LIE?

I wanted to say so, but I wasn't sure... I couldn't find any reference to what happened to it. Cool story though.

**Malcolm** · 11-08-2007, 10:45 AM

Wow, those are some amazing photos!... And a great story to go with them.
I love the "forward leaning" photography featured here, that was also discussed in another thread not too long ago. Good stuff, for sure.

If you think of how young the Automobile was at that time and see those primitive machines racing around, those guys HAD to be tough.
If we could have only been there!

Thanks for the tip "Minewithnoshine" and for the Editorial, Ryan.

Malcolm

Bluto · 11-08-2007, 10:49 AM

This scene comes up in many ways besides photos

Here is my Desk set and detail from a letter opener I got several years ago and several years apart.

I am sure there are prints and other items too with this image

Stevie G · 11-08-2007, 11:21 AM

Found it boss.
http://www.nycroads.com/history/motor/

Bluto · 11-08-2007, 11:38 AM

AN'DIZ.......

http://www.rumbledrome.com/10stats.html

Mac the Yankee · 11-08-2007, 11:38 AM

Stevie- thanks for finding that! I worked on an early Simplex some years back when I lived in Philly, PA. The car was owned, I believe, by one of Vanderbilt's sons (if he didn't have any, I sincerly apologize- not trying to BS, just have the wrong family). Anyway, he ordered the Simplex with the racing chassis, but with a 5 pass touring body so that he could take the family out in it OR race with his buddies on the family's private road... I'm guessing it's the Vanderbilt road- very cool.

The car was awesome, but whoever rebuilt the engine honed the cylinder jugs at too high a speed and warped them (try to find originals) and had the camshafts out of sync. I got to tear the engine down (the level of my expertiece and my boss's trust). Once the engine was running again, I got to go for a ride in the pass seat w/o any floorboards- talk about a wild ride!

Mac the Yankee · 11-08-2007, 11:39 AM

Bluto- that is an AWESOME site!

Stevie G · 11-08-2007, 11:47 AM

My family is from out on the Island.
This just makes me want to get up there and see more.

**Malcolm** · 11-08-2007, 11:58 AM

Does anyone know how fast these cars went?

Petejoe · 11-08-2007, 12:05 PM

Found some more race albums within that just in case it was missed.
thanks guys!
http://www.geh.org/autoraces.html

ChevyGirlRox · 11-08-2007, 12:21 PM

It is photos like those that make me balk when people say racing is not a sport. It takes so much heart, soul and commitment. Just look at those guys in the photos and the guys that race in the La Carrera Panamerica, nothing but balls!

LiL' NiCk · 11-08-2007, 12:50 PM

I saw these last nite,,,I tipped Ryan to posting a hilite.....Thanx Ryan.
THESE PHOTOS ARE FILLED WITH AUTOMOTIVE SOUL

long island vic · 11-08-2007, 12:52 PM

there is still about 100 feet of the race track on the side of the meadowbrook parkway in east meadow going north

belair · 11-08-2007, 01:29 PM

The front wheels look (to me) out of round, angled forward, like an artist was trying to emphasize speed and forward motion. Awesome photo.

Mac the Yankee · 11-08-2007, 01:40 PM

Okay- dumb question...

Why do the wheels look out of round and the cars seem to lean in the pics? Does it have to do with shutter speed, lens...?

**oldbobsign** · 11-08-2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluto

AN'DIZ.......

http://www.rumbledrome.com/10stats.html

Great link! If you look at the races from 1914 and 1915 you can see that Kalamazoo, Michigan held an event in those years. You can still sit in the grandstands there when they give out the awards at the Nat's North.

Louis Chevrolet raced there when he was nearing the end of his racing career. He had already lost sharing in two fortunes (one was AC Delco) because of his terrible temper and would finish his working years at the Flint assembly plant where he would work on the line assembling the vehicles that bore his name!!!

Bluto · 11-08-2007, 01:53 PM

The photos are shot with a shutter that moves across the film. The car's moving fast enough that parts move in relation to the shutter's position and you get this image
It is so wonderful that many artists doing paints, prints and sculpture have used this device to create SPEED

You have to understand just what impact these photos had on people of the time!

11-08-2007, 10:29 AM	#1
Ryan Administrator Join Date: Jan 1995 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 11,019	Eatin' Dirt Woah... Thanks to "Minewithnoshine" for the tip. Seems like he was doing some research for a photogr... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Jalopy Journal, click here.

11-08-2007, 10:39 AM	#2
Stevie G Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On the road to Bethlehem....no....really!! Posts: 4,645	Re: Eatin' Dirt The George Eastman House has an awesome collection of stills and "Moving pictures". Any of you in the area that haven't taken a tour....get off your butts. So, what became of the Long Island Motor Parkway? Is it now the LIE? __________________ Member ADHDC. Sure, I have a lot of cars but...Hey, that would look real cool with a...

11-08-2007, 10:43 AM	#3
THE235KID Old School HAMBer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canton, Texas Posts: 3,036	Re: Eatin' Dirt That is awsome. Those guys were crazy __________________ http://www.Hatfieldrestorations.com 53 Chevy full custom build

11-08-2007, 10:45 AM	#5
Malcolm Alliance Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,259	Re: Eatin' Dirt Wow, those are some amazing photos!... And a great story to go with them. I love the "forward leaning" photography featured here, that was also discussed in another thread not too long ago. Good stuff, for sure. If you think of how young the Automobile was at that time and see those primitive machines racing around, those guys HAD to be tough. If we could have only been there! Thanks for the tip "Minewithnoshine" and for the Editorial, Ryan. Malcolm

11-08-2007, 10:49 AM	#6
Bluto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Eastern Front Posts: 2,220	Re: Eatin' Dirt This scene comes up in many ways besides photos Here is my Desk set and detail from a letter opener I got several years ago and several years apart. I am sure there are prints and other items too with this image Attached Thumbnails

11-08-2007, 11:21 AM	#7
Stevie G Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On the road to Bethlehem....no....really!! Posts: 4,645	Re: Eatin' Dirt Found it boss. http://www.nycroads.com/history/motor/ __________________ Member ADHDC. Sure, I have a lot of cars but...Hey, that would look real cool with a...

11-08-2007, 11:38 AM	#8
Bluto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Eastern Front Posts: 2,220	Re: Eatin' Dirt AN'DIZ....... http://www.rumbledrome.com/10stats.html

11-08-2007, 11:38 AM	#9
Mac the Yankee Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winder (pronounced "Wahnduh, Suh"), Georgia Posts: 3,283	Re: Eatin' Dirt Stevie- thanks for finding that! I worked on an early Simplex some years back when I lived in Philly, PA. The car was owned, I believe, by one of Vanderbilt's sons (if he didn't have any, I sincerly apologize- not trying to BS, just have the wrong family). Anyway, he ordered the Simplex with the racing chassis, but with a 5 pass touring body so that he could take the family out in it OR race with his buddies on the family's private road... I'm guessing it's the Vanderbilt road- very cool. The car was awesome, but whoever rebuilt the engine honed the cylinder jugs at too high a speed and warped them (try to find originals) and had the camshafts out of sync. I got to tear the engine down (the level of my expertiece and my boss's trust). Once the engine was running again, I got to go for a ride in the pass seat w/o any floorboards- talk about a wild ride! __________________ Looking for: Early Chev 4 parts Samson Truck engine 21" Chev/GM wire wheels

11-08-2007, 11:39 AM	#10
Mac the Yankee Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winder (pronounced "Wahnduh, Suh"), Georgia Posts: 3,283	Re: Eatin' Dirt Bluto- that is an AWESOME site! __________________ Looking for: Early Chev 4 parts Samson Truck engine 21" Chev/GM wire wheels

11-08-2007, 11:47 AM	#11
Stevie G Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On the road to Bethlehem....no....really!! Posts: 4,645	Re: Eatin' Dirt My family is from out on the Island. This just makes me want to get up there and see more. __________________ Member ADHDC. Sure, I have a lot of cars but...Hey, that would look real cool with a...

11-08-2007, 11:58 AM	#12
Malcolm Alliance Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,259	Re: Eatin' Dirt Does anyone know how fast these cars went?

11-08-2007, 12:05 PM	#13
Petejoe Old School HAMBer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: I'm from Ohio Posts: 6,246	Re: Eatin' Dirt Found some more race albums within that just in case it was missed. thanks guys! http://www.geh.org/autoraces.html __________________ In my old age... Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked..... the good fortune to run into the ones I do..... and the eyesight to tell the difference. Be Careful

11-08-2007, 12:21 PM	#14
ChevyGirlRox Old School HAMBer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,224	Re: Eatin' Dirt It is photos like those that make me balk when people say racing is not a sport. It takes so much heart, soul and commitment. Just look at those guys in the photos and the guys that race in the La Carrera Panamerica, nothing but balls! __________________ I can fly! Join the HAMB Book Club!

11-08-2007, 12:50 PM	#15
LiL' NiCk Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI, 53235 Posts: 692	Re: Eatin' Dirt I saw these last nite,,,I tipped Ryan to posting a hilite.....Thanx Ryan. THESE PHOTOS ARE FILLED WITH AUTOMOTIVE SOUL __________________ www.creativeshake.com/nick-hansen Buy my hot rod art online! www.lilnick.etsy.com

11-08-2007, 12:52 PM	#16
long island vic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: n.bellmore n.y. Posts: 1,717	Re: Eatin' Dirt there is still about 100 feet of the race track on the side of the meadowbrook parkway in east meadow going north __________________ If the only thing you have is a hammer, treat everything like it's a nail.

11-08-2007, 01:29 PM	#17
belair Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Close to Burnet, TEXAS Posts: 2,671	Re: Eatin' Dirt The front wheels look (to me) out of round, angled forward, like an artist was trying to emphasize speed and forward motion. Awesome photo. __________________ Every knee will bow H.A.M.B. Chapel

11-08-2007, 01:40 PM	#18
Mac the Yankee Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winder (pronounced "Wahnduh, Suh"), Georgia Posts: 3,283	Re: Eatin' Dirt Okay- dumb question... Why do the wheels look out of round and the cars seem to lean in the pics? Does it have to do with shutter speed, lens...? __________________ Looking for: Early Chev 4 parts Samson Truck engine 21" Chev/GM wire wheels

11-08-2007, 01:53 PM	#20
Bluto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Eastern Front Posts: 2,220	Re: Eatin' Dirt The photos are shot with a shutter that moves across the film. The car's moving fast enough that parts move in relation to the shutter's position and you get this image It is so wonderful that many artists doing paints, prints and sculpture have used this device to create SPEED You have to understand just what impact these photos had on people of the time!

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