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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cleveland Georgia
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first i have ever heard of them, are they old or a new repop thing?
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Atl Ga
Posts: 5,665
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Old. And fairly rare.
I saw one on a 409 once...had trouble walking upright for the rest of the show. -Brad
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Robesonia PA
Posts: 2,475
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they are not that rare.All the big name brands made them.Offenhauser,Edelbrock,M/T,Weiand and a couple off brands.I've seen them with 2x4's and even 6x2's.?The 6x2's are scarce.There is always a bunch of them on the other site.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: chicagoland
Posts: 3,252
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From what I understand M/T only cast intakes for 2 years..
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Kent, Wa
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you see crossrams at most swap meets. The M/T brand is less common
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cleveland Georgia
Posts: 403
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Worth $1000 With Carbs? Just Sounds Like A Deal But Not Sure.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: chicagoland
Posts: 3,252
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There was one M/T crossram 2X4 at the pile-up for much less then that with carbs and cleaners
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Billings Mt
Posts: 982
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I had one on a 332 inch 60 Vette back in 63-65 era. Very cool looking but very hard to get the fuel distribution right. Ran mid 12's on crappy Casler recaps which was quick for a street car back then. The car ran better with a single 4 barrel Holley setup off a 327/365 Vette motor
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sultan, WA
Posts: 4,768
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I've seen quite a few SBC ones they are in my 1964 M/T catalog too
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Atl Ga
Posts: 5,665
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Quote:
(The Mopars had a plate for tri-power carbs, too. Some of the Mopar versions I've seen were called the Rat Roaster) -Brad
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 492
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1000.00 for a M/T cross ram, carbs, and cleaners sounds fair to me....especially if the price included the linkage....
I plan on using one on a 301 powering a 61 vette that im currentlly building. One thing about the M/t is there is a connecting tube that runs accross the top that connects the 2. This makes the carbs better for street use.... I currentlly have two holley 600's but, see myself sizing down.....any other guys here running a cross ram? I'd like to get some idea of carb size/data for running a 301 cheverolet (or other small block for that matter). thanks |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Near Milwaukee, but my socks in Atlanta
Posts: 5,017
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Ditto here, who's running them and how well are they on the street? saw that one at the pileup and started thinking...
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: METHaway, WA
Posts: 8,133
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A fellow car club member has an M/T crossram on a Pontiac....somewhat rare.
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Grenade Inspector
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 267
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I ran a tunnel rammed 355 sbc with 2x450vs in my 35 3w for years, it ran GREAT & gave outstanding fuel economy. I have recently bought a period M/T Xram & will soon try the 450 vac sec's on it, it will be very interesting to compare....Hemi35
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Byron, IL
Posts: 934
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I have a weiand cross ram on my 327. I've done a lot of looking. Edelbrock, weiand, and offenhauser all made one that looked almost exactly the same. Very minor differences between them. The mickey thompson for sbc is staggard while the others are side x side. The M/T is probably the rarest followed by weiand then offenhauser then edelbrock. anyway, mine is good on the street. I'm running old holley 390 double pumpers. They are choke delete carbs w/ mechanical secondaries. They work fine, car is cold blooded as hell, but starts right up and runs clean. I sent the carbs to quick fuel in kentucky to be rebuilt and had some goodies added. I crack the secondaries open a litte otherwise it will foul the back plugs. Also make sure that there is a pcv that is connected to both carbs that feeds from the same spot. I hear if you don't do that it'll be a bitch to tune. Has a high idle, about 1100 cold and 1500 warm. I think I might be able to bring it down a little more.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Byron, IL
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by the way I gave $250 for my intake. It was polished and had two 500cfm carters on it with the linkage.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Torrance, Ca
Posts: 4,466
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There was a manifold shootout in Hot Rod mag a few years ago. The problem they had with the crossram (don't know which make) was the reversion. At idle, you could see a find misty cloud over the carbs. A buddy of mine ran one on his BBC 34' Coupe. He took it off and replaced it with dual quads because of the reversion issue. He even tried reversion plates in the manifold but it helped too little.
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 989
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I have one. Haven't ever used it yet. I was gonna do 4 94s on it but recently came across another 4x2 and I am a bit unsure which to use. I paid $300 for it. It is in prestine condition. Farely rare for sbc. I see them on egay for 400+ all the time.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 1,339
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I am running a Edelbrock XC-96 on a 454 BBC with 2 x Holley 1850's (600 vac sec). I've only spent minimal time mucking around with it as it has only been running for a few minutes and driven about 200 yards, but it starts and runs ok considering. When I get back to it, I plan to use an infra-red thermometer to help dial in the idle settings and then see how it drives.
Does anyone have any photos of the connecting tube on the M/T version ? I have also read that it helps them run smoother. I will eventually also install a balancing tube between the vacuum secondary canisters to equalise them so they open at the same time. |
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 492
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I'll take some pics and get some up....Im sitting on two of them....a M/T and a offy (both have a connecting tube) The Offy has a weird square end to it though...and the M/T is just cooler....I am assuming the manifold Im calling is an offy...it has every indication, however, when I bought the manifold, it had the offy name ground off. I appreciate the info on carb sizes and the like....give me a little and I'll get em on....
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