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Old 03-27-2010, 03:11 AM   #5021
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That group shot is Riverhead when it was dirt, the cars are between 3&4.
My father, Jack Reinhard, is the first on the bottom row right side and Long John Mileski is the 5th. from the left in the rear row. The picture is not complete, there is quite a bit more to the right. I have a copy of it and it is a pretty large landscape format print.

Harold Seaman knows quite a few of the other drivers by face as he was there all the time in that era and was around 10 or so.

John Mileski's car is the 20, Fred Gallo in the 19, Fred Kart and Bill Kart are the 69 & 96 ( I think Fred may have been the 69), it may be Leo Ceckowski Sr. in the 56. The part of the picture not seen has Cliff Tyler Sr. in the 8 ball.

This picture was hanging up in our garage forever.
FIRST .. It was GRRRREAT to meet you at Harold Seaman's shop.
That was one heck of a good & super sized hamburger that you bought us at the Airport Diner too. THANKS!!!

I've seen that picture before .. either Ed Hawkins or his son in law Norman Gimmler had a copy .. maybe Steve Tooker too, he has lots of early Riverhead (NY) Raceway history stuff, as I remember.

I also remember someone also naming almost everyone in the larger version of that shot, but damned if I remember who????

It was INTERESTING to hear Harold (Seaman) talk about (when He was a boy) helping Rambo & Evers (John Rambo did most of the work) build the track .. or at least digging holes for them.

I don't know it it was over lunch or later that day (after you left) .. but over the years I heard many different (hear say) stories as to why the track is cocked on the property .. never knew which (if any) to believe .. BUT a young Harold Seaman being there helping .. what he said to me I now take as the truth. .... It seems there was a stream running through the property and the easiest way to excavate & shape the track was to follow & use the banks of the stream. That "IS" why the track sits cocked / angled on the property!!! .... THANKS HAROLD!!!
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Old 03-27-2010, 03:19 AM   #5022
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LOL Pete, didn't mean to steal your thunder I wasn't sure if you had the other half of that photo or not? what a great idea back then to get all those guys out on the track! Every Speedway should do that on opening day!
I'll add my 2 cents to that.

Me thinks that every speedway would be smart to do that once each & every season!!

Anyone have a copy of a group shot of mostly midget drivers, posed in the Islip (NY) grand stands that they can post? I haven't seen that one in many years.

They probably did that with the modified drivers at Islip too.
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:40 AM   #5023
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This is the other half of that AWESOME Riverhead Raceway photo circa 1956

Yes! Thank you, my son is ever in your debt. Dad's can do that you know.
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:43 AM   #5024
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This what the photos may of looked like back in the day.

I can live with that! Thanks.
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:51 AM   #5025
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FIRST .. It was GRRRREAT to meet you at Harold Seaman's shop.
That was one heck of a good & super sized hamburger that you bought us at the Airport Diner too. THANKS!!!

I've seen that picture before .. either Ed Hawkins or his son in law Norman Gimmler had a copy .. maybe Steve Tooker too, he has lots of early Riverhead (NY) Raceway history stuff, as I remember.

I also remember someone also naming almost everyone in the larger version of that shot, but damned if I remember who????

It was INTERESTING to hear Harold (Seaman) talk about (when He was a boy) helping Rambo & Evers (John Rambo did most of the work) build the track .. or at least digging holes for them.

I don't know it it was over lunch or later that day (after you left) .. but over the years I heard many different (hear say) stories as to why the track is cocked on the property .. never knew which (if any) to believe .. BUT a young Harold Seaman being there helping .. what he said to me I now take as the truth. .... It seems there was a stream running through the property and the easiest way to excavate & shape the track was to follow & use the banks of the stream. That "IS" why the track sits cocked / angled on the property!!! .... THANKS HAROLD!!!

That makes sense when you take into consideration the swamp and how many cars ended up in it years ago.
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Old 03-27-2010, 06:16 AM   #5026
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I would love to see an Islip picture like that Riverhead one. This is the closest I have found to a group Modified shot from Islip Speedway.
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:59 AM   #5027
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I think this is an allstar race in the early 70. Ferns
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:22 AM   #5028
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I spoke to Steve Park about this picture of his dad's wreck... He said it was at
Martinsville speedway and the throttle hung wide open! Scary crash, it broke Bob's shoulder & collar bone, cuts and bruises. Throttle booster in carbs were narrowed for horsepower but broke off and hung throttles open, now Nascar inspects and no tampering allowed!
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:52 AM   #5029
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This thread has been awesome from the start, if you want to check some interesting stuff from the Northeast and Ontario check this one out:

http://speedwaynostalgia.com/

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Old 03-27-2010, 07:47 PM   #5030
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Thanks for the info Kris, I knew when I saw it, I had to post it, even though it's a later style mod!!! I knew we could some info on that wreck, the mod looks destroyed!


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Old 03-27-2010, 07:49 PM   #5032
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:32 PM   #5034
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what a great idea back then to get all those guys out on the track! Every Speedway should do that on opening day!



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Thunder Road Speedbowl in Barre, Vt has a "class day" every year. Every driver in all 4 divisions line up on the track and a group shot is taken. It's very impressive considering the track is a 1/4 mile and there are easily 20-30 cars in each class.
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its really great that they make the effort to do that!
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:47 AM   #5036
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Thanks for the info Kris, I knew when I saw it, I had to post it, even though it's a later style mod!!! I knew we could some info on that wreck, the mod looks destroyed!


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Thats not greenport Long Island is it ?
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:08 PM   #5037
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I spoke to Steve Park about this picture of his dad's wreck... He said it was at
Martinsville speedway and the throttle hung wide open! Scary crash, it broke Bob's shoulder & collar bone, cuts and bruises. Throttle booster in carbs were narrowed for horsepower but broke off and hung throttles open, now Nascar inspects and no tampering allowed!
It's likely that something similar was one of the causes of the deaths of Charlie Jarzombek, Richie Evans and others.

I think today NASCAR also mandates that the throttle boosters / power valves be safety wired, so they can't fall in & jam the carb open.

I've also noticed in the pictures of Charlie's wreck & now Bob Parks, how the front clips didn't seem to really bend / crush / absorb energy .. meaning the driver took A LOT of the hit.

Top that with back then we also didn't have HANS devices &/or the seats that are available today.
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:23 PM   #5038
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That makes sense when you take into consideration the swamp and how many cars ended up in it years ago.
If you were to follow that swamp back on the Riverhead (NY) Raceway property, you'd find that it runs into a rather large pond (small lake) .. in the woods .. on the side of & towards the rear of the property.
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No track in greenport, Long Island, we had one in Speonk though. I have to find the list of track on Long Island at one point, it added up to 30+ all together if not more. If someone finds the list before me post it!!! We had a big track in Deer Park and it sat in the woods till 15 years ago!


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