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Alright fellas... We had a member asking about Halibrand rears and thought it was a nice opportunity to start a detailed tech/history thread. The posters that reply to this post with the best history/tech lesson on Halibrands get the last sets of TJJ/HAMB water slides that I have...
Let's hear it!
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Ted Halibrand started with wheels I believe first around 1946 and then casting other parts including quickchanges, It seems the first castings were out of Culver City and were made of magnesium, this was the V-8 styled rear, there was also the Model a style rear which differed from the V-8 by the extra pinion hosuing which is the same in stock rears, the V-8 carried the bearing on the end of the pinion gear while the Model a did not, also the Model A casting was not as long so you have better clearance with that hosuing then you do with a V-8 housing. I'm not sure when the larger Champ styled rear was introduced but after Culver City castings came the Torrance castings and they were changed to aluminum. They used the same design as the originals, The lower shafts used in the rears were different length depending on if you used a closed rear" Torquetube" or an open driveshaft. The only thing needed to change your stock Ford rear to a quickchange was machine the stock pinion on your ford so it would fit the bearing in the rear cover of the quickchange.
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Halibrand Champ rearends were made during the Culver City era, they came in either aluminum or magnesium. Here are pics of a Culver City Champ rearend.
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I want some more info.....
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GREAT POST! halibrand info is limited around here..I like the fact that this info was current, in the day when these things were STATE OF THE ART! Keep it coming!
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I am still researching...not good enough to win - but I'll bump it just to keep it going....
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Quote:
A person that would really know what isn't right & makes duckette$ redoing em over & over again=Dave Enmark, beisdes using the cartridge type bearing set up (Which has been known to try and make a quick exit right out the rear cover when any kind of serious horsepower is put to it). One must really remember that these were actually manufactured for dirt tracks and not so much pavement, (Cook made Ted aware of this and beefed up his unit accordingly so Indy guys would use em) They did and survive to this day-City of Tacoma Special driven by none other than Jack Mc Grath. I also have an original version of our unit in a late 40's in need of a resto Sprint car that Suzanne Williams owned previously and has a spool set up. Ford used double tappered roller bearings as well as a pinion support/bearing, We've retained this engineering as did Ted but,somehow someone thought that they would relieve resistance by altering that original setup to come up with whats in the drawing. Pepe & Jim @ Cook's did a lot of work together which has carried on to Pepe's successor Tom's Differentials for the last several decades. I hope that some of this info helps. Hey Ryan, Can I have a set of decals now=lol! Last edited by Cyclone Kevin; 12-19-2006 at 07:08 PM. |
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Hey Kiwi Kev...
That was a great article on the Pepe conversion. Used it when I built mine. Still going strong ![]() Tom's Differentials motto: "Happiness is a Tight Posi" Last edited by hotrodA; 12-19-2006 at 07:42 PM. |
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Damn you Cyclone Kevin, trying to get my decals!
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From MOON catalog...1962.
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From the build of Bud Bryan's R&C AV8.
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