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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Deerfield, Chicagoland, IL, USA
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Okay, a few months ago I got my ceremonial spanking, swallowed the koolaid, and joined the Mysterious Cult of Deucedom(TM) courtesy continentaljohn....
http://static.flickr.com/110/305722027_91da818f68.jpg it's an ancient Chicago hot rod, pre-'63 hammer weld chop. Has been in pieces for 40+ years. Anyhoo, abomber30 and I have been gassing about various ideas for putting it back together over the winter. The only certainty for now: it will be fenderless, simple, late fifties style. But we're still debating the right stance - highboy, lowboy, tire rake, etc. I'm very partial to the Busby 5w deuce, but also dig the "Rolling Bones" suicide look, Clark's 5w, Bass's coupe among others. That's where you come in... got '32 5w or an A coupe on Deuce rails? Post some inspirational pix, along with as much suspension detail as you can - type of crossmember / springs, notching, steering box, bones or radius rods. Thanx in advance Zenor |
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Edmonds,Wa,USA
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Here's a small picture of mine, pretty basic. I copied a socal frame, model A front and rear crossmembers. The flat part of the frame is one inch higher in the back, vega steering cause I like to drive and not have it feel like I'm driving a truck. Tires are 600x16 and 750x16. Hope that helps
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Deerfield, Chicagoland, IL, USA
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Edmonds,Wa,USA
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it's a reversed eye spring with five leaves, Magnun axle because I wanted to use stock steering arms.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: GA
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here's mine Mike - Nice body. My body was heavily molested and was sectioned and chopped with no floor. I think I am ending up with a slightly channeled chopped high boy, if that make sense.
It has a transverse leaf in the rear with a model a front cross member - it isn't too low at all. It will need some notching for the front spring that I haven't done yet. I have hair pins/batwings with pivot perches. The rear is a 4 link set up. I have pan hard bars on both ends. I would really suggest planning on notching the frame for the rear axle if going low. I would suggest Bass's frame as the unlitmate model for the frame and suspension. Its too late for me now. |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: MTZ, where the sewer meets the sea!!
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Mine
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bronx, NY
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I'm building my 5W as a highboy, nothing beats the look of a traditional '32 sitting on top of the rails..
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When you got a set of Deuce rails show-em
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cerro Gordo, IL
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I think you need to unchop it and turn it into a highboy. Like that Purple one on Hatch's thread. Ha Ha Ha
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: KC,MO - The cradle of hot rodding
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I don't know chassis details and I personally wouldn't build one this way - but I like how this car looks. Very nice.
I say throw all of that "have to show your Deuce rails off" stuff in the garbage. If you want to channel it, channel it. Do what you have to do to get it setting how you want. Plenty of really nice looking cars channeled over Deuce rails. Coincidentally I'm working out some of the same problems. I like the look of the Doans/RB cars. But I like frame horns and have plans for mine so I want to keep them.
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My only real issue with channeling these cars is the relationship of the tire and rear quarter... It's a personal thing, but I'm not huge on cars that sit lower than their rear wheel wells allow. I know that is popular now and was somewhat popular in the 60's, but I've always felt it hurts the lines of the car.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: GA
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bartlett IL 50 miles west ( Chi Town )
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This was mine here is one for you ............
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I think the front of this car sits right - though the rear end could be a bit higher to put the tire in the wheelwell. I'd love to see some details on the front end to use as a starting point.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Forest Park IL
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Sénor Zénor, you ALREADY said the magic word... Busby...
May the Force be with you.
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: METHaway, WA
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I think a '32 coupe looks good channelled @ 4". Shows just enough frame. Frames look too tall otherwise (most of the time...imo).....the exception being a '29 roadster on deuce rails....
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Old School HAMBer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Deerfield, Chicagoland, IL, USA
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Ryan - I'm personally not big on channeling over Deuce frames, but this is about nuts-on for a stance... I think it's a 3" channel...
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Remember that 3W in Rodders Journal that was channeled with the wheelwell moved up? That thing was pretty damn perfect - and I guess falls in line with the issue you have.
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