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Old 11-28-2006, 12:12 PM   #1
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Default 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

Okay, a few months ago I got my ceremonial spanking, swallowed the koolaid, and joined the Mysterious Cult of Deucedom(TM) courtesy continentaljohn....

http://static.flickr.com/110/305722027_91da818f68.jpg

it's an ancient Chicago hot rod, pre-'63 hammer weld chop. Has been in pieces for 40+ years. Anyhoo, abomber30 and I have been gassing about various ideas for putting it back together over the winter.

The only certainty for now: it will be fenderless, simple, late fifties style. But we're still debating the right stance - highboy, lowboy, tire rake, etc. I'm very partial to the Busby 5w deuce, but also dig the "Rolling Bones" suicide look, Clark's 5w, Bass's coupe among others.

That's where you come in... got '32 5w or an A coupe on Deuce rails? Post some inspirational pix, along with as much suspension detail as you can - type of crossmember / springs, notching, steering box, bones or radius rods.

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Old 11-28-2006, 02:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

Here's a small picture of mine, pretty basic. I copied a socal frame, model A front and rear crossmembers. The flat part of the frame is one inch higher in the back, vega steering cause I like to drive and not have it feel like I'm driving a truck. Tires are 600x16 and 750x16. Hope that helps
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

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Here's a small picture of mine, pretty basic. I copied a socal frame, model A front and rear crossmembers. The flat part of the frame is one inch higher in the back, vega steering cause I like to drive and not have it feel like I'm driving a truck. Tires are 600x16 and 750x16. Hope that helps
Thanks! What kind of spring in front - reversed eye, monoleaf etc?
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:28 PM   #4
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Default Re: 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

it's a reversed eye spring with five leaves, Magnun axle because I wanted to use stock steering arms.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:28 PM   #5
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Default Re: 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

here's mine Mike - Nice body. My body was heavily molested and was sectioned and chopped with no floor. I think I am ending up with a slightly channeled chopped high boy, if that make sense.

It has a transverse leaf in the rear with a model a front cross member - it isn't too low at all. It will need some notching for the front spring that I haven't done yet. I have hair pins/batwings with pivot perches. The rear is a 4 link set up. I have pan hard bars on both ends.

I would really suggest planning on notching the frame for the rear axle if going low.

I would suggest Bass's frame as the unlitmate model for the frame and suspension. Its too late for me now.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:43 PM   #6
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:59 PM   #7
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I'm building my 5W as a highboy, nothing beats the look of a traditional '32 sitting on top of the rails..

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Old 11-28-2006, 03:09 PM   #8
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When you got a set of Deuce rails show-em
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:15 PM   #9
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I think you need to unchop it and turn it into a highboy. Like that Purple one on Hatch's thread. Ha Ha Ha
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:24 PM   #10
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I don't know chassis details and I personally wouldn't build one this way - but I like how this car looks. Very nice.

I say throw all of that "have to show your Deuce rails off" stuff in the garbage. If you want to channel it, channel it. Do what you have to do to get it setting how you want. Plenty of really nice looking cars channeled over Deuce rails.

Coincidentally I'm working out some of the same problems. I like the look of the Doans/RB cars. But I like frame horns and have plans for mine so I want to keep them.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:29 PM   #11
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Default Re: 5W stance/chassis inspiration request

My only real issue with channeling these cars is the relationship of the tire and rear quarter... It's a personal thing, but I'm not huge on cars that sit lower than their rear wheel wells allow. I know that is popular now and was somewhat popular in the 60's, but I've always felt it hurts the lines of the car.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:38 PM   #12
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My only real issue with channeling these cars is the relationship of the tire and rear quarter... It's a personal thing, but I'm not huge on cars that sit lower than their rear wheel wells allow. I know that is popular now and was somewhat popular in the 60's, but I've always felt it hurts the lines of the car.
sometimes on these cars it looks cool when the radius of the wheel now matches the radiuse of the trunk lid instead of the fenderwell - I think it has to be either one. I am not a fan of the really channeled cars. This ot the first day the body was thrown on the chassis
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:38 PM   #13
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My only real issue with channeling these cars is the relationship of the tire and rear quarter... It's a personal thing, but I'm not huge on cars that sit lower than their rear wheel wells allow. I know that is popular now and was somewhat popular in the 60's, but I've always felt it hurts the lines of the car.
That is exactly how I set up the stance on my car, looked for a uniform reveal around the rear tire, looks like it's supposed to be that way.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:41 PM   #14
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This was mine here is one for you ............







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That is exactly how I set up the stance on my car, looked for a uniform reveal around the rear tire, looks like it's supposed to be that way.
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I think the front of this car sits right - though the rear end could be a bit higher to put the tire in the wheelwell. I'd love to see some details on the front end to use as a starting point.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:46 PM   #16
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Sénor Zénor, you ALREADY said the magic word... Busby...

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Old 11-28-2006, 03:49 PM   #17
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I think a '32 coupe looks good channelled @ 4". Shows just enough frame. Frames look too tall otherwise (most of the time...imo).....the exception being a '29 roadster on deuce rails....
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:49 PM   #18
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I think you need to unchop it and turn it into a highboy. Like that Purple one on Hatch's thread. Ha Ha Ha
Better yet, whack the whole top off and replace it with a phonebooth T! Bring up your welder and a case of Schlitz, homeboy.


Ryan - I'm personally not big on channeling over Deuce frames, but this is about nuts-on for a stance... I think it's a 3" channel...

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Old 11-28-2006, 03:54 PM   #19
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My only real issue with channeling these cars is the relationship of the tire and rear quarter... It's a personal thing, but I'm not huge on cars that sit lower than their rear wheel wells allow. I know that is popular now and was somewhat popular in the 60's, but I've always felt it hurts the lines of the car.
I was typing and searching for that photo I posted as you replied. And I mostly agree but then I think of cars like the Kougaz roadster, Tom Branch's car, and a few nameless ones I have a pictures of in various dog-eared little pages. Maybe it has something to do with being a roadster that lets them get away with it?

Remember that 3W in Rodders Journal that was channeled with the wheelwell moved up? That thing was pretty damn perfect - and I guess falls in line with the issue you have.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:54 PM   #20
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Sénor Zénor, you ALREADY said the magic word... Busby...

May the Force be with you.
Now you're talking, Chad... anybody have details on the chassis setup for the Busby coupe? Isn't it currently owned by that collector guy up in Madison WI?
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