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Unknown Mallory Mini-Mag

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Barz51, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. Barz51
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    I found this old Mallory Mini-Mag in a junk yard. The old guy running the yard told me it was for an Oldsmobile, however he also insisted it was a dual points distributor. I did not want to stick around and argue the point and I really wanted to leave before he realized what it really was. Anyhow, I think it is from an olds and maybe even an early OHV engine. I've been searching the Mallory sight and the HAMB but cant find any good info for identifying it. Thanks in advance for the help.

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  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    I think the "312" identifies engine family. I'm at work and old Mallory catalog is at home, but I think it may be Pontiac from look of post.
     
  3. skajaquada
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    from SLC Utard

    the guy was right, it's just a dual points distributor. i'll be happy to take it off your hands to save you from just throwing it away ;)
     
  4. Or perhaps Y-block Ford?
     

  5. Barz51
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    That is what I was thinking at the junkyard. I just kept thinking "I don't care what it fits. Just sell it to me while you still think it is a dual point distributor."
     
  6. HEATHEN
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    It's definitely Pontiac V8.
     
  7. touchdowntodd
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    either way, i want it for my olds hahaha
     
  8. HEATHEN
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    It's too short to use in an Olds without adding some sort of extension; however, since it's got CCW advance, it's a good prospect to shorten for use in a '49-'53 Cadillac.
     
  9. von Dyck
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    It is NOT a dual point distributor! You only have the "Generating Component". Unlike the Vertex with its integral transformer (coil), the Mallory used an epoxy filled external coil called a "Power Pack". These came in two versions: one used on push-start engines (sprint cars, dragsters, etc.), and another used on battery start engines (typically street driven vehicles). Spark plug gaps must be narrowed to no more than .018" or you won't get the engine started. Ran one of these on a 324cid Olds then later adapted it to run on a 426 HEMI. Fuel economy was decent even without the vacuum advance.
    The cap for this is a two piece. On your advance/retard scale the red indicator pointer is missing. Stewart-Warner built a special tachometer to read RPM off these mags. Lucky find even if only for conversation.
     
  10. rsg2506
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    People have been telling me that for years.....:D
     
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  11. revkev6
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    definately pontiac, here's bay listing that says it came from a 65 pontiac. looks like an exact match:

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  12. 61bone
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    What you have there is a nice shelf sitter for a Pontiac. You need the powerpac for it and the chances of finding a good one are nil. Coils are always shot. I was quoted 500 to make a new coil and Mallory tells me that no other coil will work with it.:( This mag is a starter model with centrifugal advance. Note the coil is cracked.
    Enclosed pics are what it consists of along with the necessary stuff for a mag Sun tach.
     
  13. 61bone
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    Well, won't let me edit my other post so i'll try it here
     

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  14. alchemy
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    Hey 61bone, do you know anything about a Mallory Super Mag? Number 310 SP, for a SBC? Like, does it require a special coil for street use, or maybe do you have wiring diagrams?
     
  15. tommy
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    It looks like a very cool candidate for conversion to Chrysler electronics if you can find the cap and rotor.
     
  16. 61bone
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    Nah, don't know nothin bout no sprint mag.:) I'd bet that a local sprint car racer could tell you all you want to know about them though. I believe that sprint mags are still current and in use. Did find a neat thing to ease starting though. Fairly simple addition called a shower of sparks ignition. Guess airplanes used it back when they were still propped to start. Now if I could just find a good coil.
     
  17. Shaggy
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    I have an old 60's super mag too, mines for a 426 I Wanted to adapt it to my 331 hemi but they spin backwards, if you find anything out let me know i might machine or try to find new guts for mine
     
  18. alchemy
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    Super Mags are not Sprint Mags, but were probably made for sprinters. Super Mags were (I think) the predecessor to the Mallory Mini Mag and II's and such. Not sure, but I think they haven't been produced for decade or more. Can't find anybody who'll work on them, or has and diagrams parts. SOL I guess.
     
  19. Shaggy
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    No the mini mags were sold at the same time and i belive were cheaper than the original Super mag. The super mag was made in the early or mid sixties and they were on a lot of the top drag cars and rails of the time
     
  20. 7&7
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    I have the same set up. Except the one I have has no advance built into the base. Instead the one on my shelf has weights in the base. Same box for the coil (engine start). Atleast the one I have looks very easy to convert to a points with external coil. Simple as hell. The internal coil on these don't have to do anything. You can just leave it in there and then wire it for a regular points deal. Use it. Yes it takes a 2 piece cap I think the part# is a 4004. I think they are a little rare, the one I have is the only one I have seen in person.
     
  21. Barz51
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    Thanks for all your help fellas. I was really hoping to use it on a project but times are a little tight and I ended up listing it on Ebay. Thanks again.
     
  22. murdercycles
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