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Tech: $1.98 6 volt gas gauge fix.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rocket88, Jan 19, 2004.

  1. Rocket88
    Joined: Jul 11, 2001
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    Thought I'd post this one since we get a lot of questions on it, here's a cheap 6 volt reducer.
    I don't like those resistors (they get too hot) and I've tried those expensive voltage drops (fried em')
    How about a cell phone charger! I found this at an electronics surplus store. It takes 12 volt DC and reduces it to 6 volt DC at 2 amps.
    Cut off the cigarette lighter end and hook it to 12 volts. At the other end is a jack, open up the charger and solder on a couple output wires. Hook up the output side to your gas guage and that's it! We've beeen running them for a couple of years now with no problems.
    And it was only $1.98!!

     

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  2. Thanks, I'm gonna do that to my wagon! HRP
     
  3. Mike Paul
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    did this on a couple of cars and it does work good....Mike
     
  4. Crestliner
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    Now that tech. Thanks.
     

  5. burndup
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    its a shame this is on page 2...

    Also, if ya ever run across a device called a 7806.... its a 6v regulator, looks like a big transistor... 3 pins, one takes up to 35v in, center is ground, and the third is regulated 6v out... there more common bretheren are 7805 and 7812... 5v and 12 v respectively.... Radio shack carries those, so you can go in and at least see whatthey look like.... but they are not 6v... There are tricks to making the 5v one do closer to 6v, but its beyond the scope here... the cell phone charger is much easier!

    THEN, if you are ever tossing something electronic, check it out for one of those regulators, they are common... you can unsolder it, and use it again...
     
  6. cadlights
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    After ya get done with hooking up the gage. Take the cigerette lighter end and put some alligator clips on
    the wires and use it for a tester. Just plug into the lighter outlet and you can test componants like power windows, radios and such with out running a wire clear to the battery. Thrift stores are a great source, just use your imagination.
     
  7. JSM56
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    great post. the cellular charger is an easy way to go. burndup is right on the money, easy to find 6v regulator at some larger electronics stores, but radio shack carries only 5v and 12v because its common for computers. i got a 6v at FRY's electronics for under a dollar. 3 wires, ground, 12v in, 6v out. and much smaller than the charger.
     
  8. badpat
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    great idea- how many ams does a heater fan need???
     
  9. zman
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    Damn this should be page one, good tech and cheap. bttt
     
  10. trm3650
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    wish i could read the part number on it.
     
  11. d2_willys
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    You mean amps? Try 6-10 amps for 6V fan motors. And they are inductive loads, so unless you have a voltage regulator in the 20-40 amp range, you will be looking at smokey joe for a regulator!

    BTW: I doubt that these phone chargers are any good above 250ma or 1/4 amperes. They are meant to charge lithium ion and ni-cad batteries which require a very small amount of current for charging. Most fuel gauges will draw more current when reading full as to reading empty, as the sending unit decrease in resistance when full.
     
  12. nali
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    78xx and 79xx have a thermal protection. They can provide up to 1 or 1.5 amp with a dissipator, but they won t burn.
     
  13. Road Runner
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    I use a zener diode NTE 5118A and resistor to get 6V for the fuel gauge.
    Cheapest and simplest method.
     
  14. Truckedup
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    Wired in series or what?
     
  15. Damn, Good diea, thinking outside the box.
     
  16. Road Runner
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    [​IMG]

    I don't remember the resistor value.
    It depends on your battery voltage and fuel gauge current draw, but 1/2W rating is fine.
    The zener is 6V and rated for 5W and will last forever.
     
  17. squirrel
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    I'd be wary of the traditional police on the phone charger...the LM78xx series has been around for decades, but the switching power supply charger thing is kinda modern to be putting in an old car.

    ;)
     
  18. nali
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    Maybe period correct if you change the inside silicium componants with germanium transistors :)
    Germanium IS period correct !!!
     
  19. william.ali.kay
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    This is a good, cheap fix for a common issue.
     
  20. Flat Ernie
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    Excellent! Copied to the Tech Archive.
     
  21. I have a box foll of old cell phone chargers ! Ill have to dig them out for the next swap meet
     
  22. nali
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    Great .... I ve just had my first post deleted :p
    Maybe some moderators don t know What Germanium is .......
    It was used in transistors before Silicium ...
    I just said this, and received a "deleted post" From The Hamb. Sorry if I have offensed anyone ....
    Lack of culture maybe ...
     
  23. nali
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    And yes, Germanium transistor ARE period correct !!!!
     
  24. Flat Ernie
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    No, when I copied the thread to the Tech Index, I deleted the non-pertinent posts to clean it up - it is common practice. Your post on this, the main thread, was not deleted and is still post #18 here.
     
  25. nali
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    Ok Ernie, I understand now ..
    Sorry.
     
  26. Flat Ernie
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    No problem at all - I honestly didn't realize it would notify you if I deleted posts from a copied thread. That's good to know!
     
  27. nali
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    Yes.
    I received a mail "post deleted" whitout any explanation .
    As I m always correct and tries to make fun and laugh on this forum, it s quite cold and boring :p
    Now I know, it s ok .
    I totally understand you have to clean before putting in the Tech .
    Just remember english is not my native langague, so I can easily make mistakes sometimes :p
     
  28. lucky ink
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