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History Barn find or Hoarding!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CRUZN60, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. Bitdrive
    Joined: Jul 27, 2011
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    Hi, I'm new here and I made the 3 videos you watched.

    I made them because of the H.A.M.B board. I was lucky enough to be invited there and can say that it was a pure fluke that I brought my video camera. I wasn't intending on taking video of this, but wasn't sure how long I would be there and what I would see.

    Sadly, once I arrived I knew that it could be the last time all of this stuff would be in one location and I felt compelled to record it. Unfortunately, I was there for only one hour, which could never do this collection justice.

    Allot of people here are trying to determine in black or white if this guy was a hoarder... I will say this... There is no power or lighting in the barn, it seemed as if it was a museum of sorts, for one individual "Hartung" (from what I understand he was very particular of whom was allowed to visit, regardless of the donation jar).

    There are definite themes that he stuck to... Ford, Signs, Plates, Oil cans, Bikes, Bicycles, Badges (police, taxi, automotive), engine parts.... etc

    From my personal experience, he seemed like a collector, a hoarder and OCD.

    I don't have a cool old rod (I have many cars and memorabilia) but can totally relate to this guy, he just happened to have a chick, space and time that let him.

    Cheers Mr. Hartung I wish I met you, when you were alive.
     
  2. billylo
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    Very well said...What a way to start out on the HAMB!! Only 4 posts in. Keep it up and you'll be a moderator at this rate. :D
     
  3. Tom C
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  4. mikef1331
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    What an amazing collection. I need to go to that auction.
     
  5. sierra rod shop
    Joined: Feb 16, 2011
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  6. Best of all I think he died a happy man , and that my friends is what it's all about.
     
  7. Smokin' Joe
    Joined: Jul 4, 2006
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    WOW! No other words... just WOW!
     
  8. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    from Sturgis

    Hoarders weird me out.
     
  9. abone1930
    Joined: Jan 16, 2006
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    WELL SAID :)
    Everytime I get stuff, I have to sell it to support my car Hobby, if I didnt I would keep it till I got around to it, or the asking price was worth it. But of cource it would be stored it some sort of rot free envoirment.
     
  10. Six-Shooter
    Joined: Jul 12, 2010
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    from Ohio

    That is jaw dropping!
     

  11. Is this correct for the date of the auction(s)?
     
  12. chrisntx
    Joined: Jan 20, 2006
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    from Texas .

    I've noticed that you dont mind making a profit off of 'hoarders' every chance you get.
     
  13. goose-em
    Joined: Aug 23, 2008
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    Off to the bank to get myself a loan, see all of you there!!!!

    A collection can also be hoarding. I think he had a bit of both, started with the collecting thing, ended with the hoarding thing.

    I really don't care either way. I am just happy to see all that iron and hope it goes to someone who can appreciate it.

    You can have the old cabbage patch doll.
     

  14. Well Played !!!
     
  15. the-rodster
    Joined: Jul 2, 2003
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    WOW!

    That's a lot of stuff.

    Reminds of the Rineyville Model A museum.

    Same type of guy.

    Some of the people on here from KY probably know what I'm talking about.

    Rich
     
  16. ronk16
    Joined: Mar 27, 2010
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    I would leave it as is. Charge money to walk through and call it a killer americanna museum............
     
  17. KooDaddy
    Joined: Oct 16, 2006
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    from Wis.

  18. CRUZN60
    Joined: Aug 1, 2004
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    I also think it would be great to leave as is and turn it into a museum.
     
  19. Model A John
    Joined: Apr 24, 2008
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    Hoarding can be a good thing.
     
  20. You just ruined my lunch...WOW..
     
  21. I have a headache...............

    What's a Veritas ?
     
  22. the-rodster
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    Veritas was a famous West German post World War II sports and race car company, located in the village of Hausen am Andelsbach, near Sigmaringen, Baden-Württemberg, later at Meßkirch and Muggensturm and moved finally to the Nürburgring.
    The company was founded by Ernst Loof, Georg Meier and Lorenz Dietrich who initially re-built and tuned pre-war BMW 328 cars using components supplied by a customer, turning them into BMW-Veritas cars.<SUP id=cite_ref-Beaulieu_0-0 class=reference>[1]</SUP> The first car was used in 1947 by its owner Karl Kling to win at Hockenheim and subsequently become the 1947 German 2-litre champion. After only a few cars were made, following an objection from BMW, the cars became simply known as Veritas.
     
  23. the-rodster
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    You know, there could easily be over a million dollars worth of stuff in there.

    Rich
     
  24. the-rodster
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    Partial listing of cars from Hemmings....

    1959 Edsel four door sedan
    1941 Lincoln Zepher 12 Cylinder Continental
    1936 Lincoln custom twin nose sedan Zepher
    1927 Henney Limousine Four Door
    1928 Model A One ton truck w/??? Rear end
    1921 Model A City of Chicago Paddy Wagon
    1937 Pontiac Four door sedan
    1909 Model T ??? Body
    1940 Ford Deluxe Coupe
    1937 Ford Two Door
    1941 Ford Four Door
    1938 Ford Two Door
    1935 Ford SW Coupe
    1934 Ford Phaeton
    1932 Ford Two Door (??)
    1932 Ford Two Door (??)
    1932 Essex Terraplane
    1924 Model T Four Door
    1914 Model T Touring
    1 Model T Touring
    1916 Model T Center Door
    1928 Model A Two Door
    1931 Model A Sport Coupe
    1930 Model A Coupe
    1931 Model A Cabriolet
    1928 Model A Phaeton
    A/T Model A/T Touring [I believe this is an A body on a T chassis]
    1931 Model A Roadster
    1949 Veritas Roadster Convertible
    1926 Hertz Touring
    1924 Model T "C" Cab
    1940 Mercury Deluxe Conv
    1936 Ford Cabriolet
    1947 Crosley Station Wagon
    1931 Model A ???(1911 Pope, 1901 Wagner, 1902 "FN", 1928 Henderson)
    1929 MOdel A Couple (Blk)
    1934 Armstrong Sidelle
    1924 Model T Peddler's Wagon
    1928 Model A Special Coupe
    1916 Model T Police Car
    1959 Fiat Spyder
    1958 Cadillac Eureka Hearse
    1933 Ford Model C Truck
    1931 Model A 1 1/2 Ton Stake Truck
    1922 Studebaker Truck
    1930 Model A Truck (Flatbed)
    1926 Model T Two Door Sedan
    1915 Model T Touring
    1937 Rolls Royce Alumninum Body
    1959 Bentley Four Door Sedan
    1934 Sunbeam Talbot Four Door Sedan
    1932 Worthington Tractor
    1950 Edwards Roadster
    1929 Model A Roadster Pickup
    1930 Model A Four Door
    1930 Model A Fire Dept Truck
    1931 Model A Slantwindshield Four Door
    1930 Model A Cabriolet
    1928 Model A Four Door
    1930 Model A Two Door
    1931 Model A Coupe
    1930 Model A Four Door
    1928 Model A Two Door
    1929 Model A Roadster Pickup
    1931 Model A Four Door
    1931 Model A Four Door
    1931 Model A Victoria
    1930 Model A Coupe
    1931 Model A Pickup
    1931 Model A SW Four Door
    1930 Model A Coupe
    1928 Model A Sport Coupe
    1930 Model A Pickup
    1931 Model A Panel Delivery
    1931 Model A Slant Windshield Cabriolet
    1930 Model A Four Door
    1931 Model A Two Door
    1929 Model A Phaeton
     
  25. hugh m
    Joined: Jul 18, 2007
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    from ct.

    Wow. Looks like he knew what he was doing, and he probably saved lots of cool stuff from the crusher too.
     
  26. A few years back I and a good friend had the priviledge of goin thru that building; my buddy's dad was a good friend of Lee's. The place was unbelievable; you could probly walk thru there everyday for a week and not see it all, a lot is hidden behind other stuff. Along one wall were 25 Model A's in a row, all in very good condition, as were all the other cars.
    Lee was a very nice guy and showed car enthusiasts his collection whenever he could.
    He had the largest collection of licence plates I've ever seen.



    Good luck if you go to the auction, you'll be simply amazed!
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2011
  27. I swear, that's what heaven must look like! I could wander around that place for an eternity, fixing things up, tinkering with stuff, and never be bored.
     
  28. pwschuh
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    It's not just a collection, it's multiple collections. It's a world class Ford collection, a world class license place collection, a world class spark plug collection, a world class toy collection, etc., etc., etc.

    I'm torn about it staying together like that. It needs to be sorted and spaced out so everything can be seen. The fact that it's all being auctioned off at once means stuff is going to go cheap. It could take years to just research, catalog, and sell this stuff the right way. I hope at a minimum everything is photographed.
     
  29. mastergun1980
    Joined: Oct 18, 2010
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    I am impressed - I am inclined to call that extreme collecting- hoarders normally don't have that orginization - also everything is nice and valuable - not worthless junk. Guy was probablly way wayobsessive compulsive , but arn't we all at least a little?
     
  30. Yeah, I'd call that "extreme collecting", as well. Here is a guy that was willing to share his stuff (as a museum of sorts) to folks. I would not call this guy a "hoarder" as they simply collect stuff for stuff's sake. Hoarders are generally (note I say generally!) mentally ill, to an extent. Collectors have a theme (this guy had multiple themes going) to a collection of whatever; be it model trains, cars and parts, or license plates. They have a purpose to their collecting. Hoarders simply hoard, whether the stuff they do hoard has value or not.

    Here is an extreme example of someone's estate getting sold off, where the guy is dead and that leaves his widow and other family members to deal with the problems this entails. There is a LOT involved here. THAT, to me, is what is sad about this; other than the man's death, obviously.

    I'd love to attend the auction, though. You don't see things like this but a few times in life. Should be a massive draw. And the estimate of a million dollars gross is probably low, even in this crappy economy. Remember, the auction house gets up to 40% of the take. Still...wow!
     

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