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Projects Model A: Rubber and carbs?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by NielsK, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. NielsK
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    Hi guys
    I dragged this one home sunday, PO needed space, so I got it at a really god price.
    It's got a Cologne engine, new spindles, steering and so on

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    I've got some 16" wires stashed away, and a set of 40 brakes + a 2" dropped axle.
    That's for starters. I want to keep it full fendered and relatively stock appearing.
    Here's my questions:

    First one: What size tires would "fit the bill" ??

    Second: I've tried different carb setups on A's before. With this car came a box with spares incl 2 really nice pot metal Tillotsons.
    I know Macs sells a manifold intended for this.(Dual mount)
    Anybody here tried it? And if so how does it compare to a 97 Stromberg??

    Thx guys :)
     
  2. Squablow
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    On 16" wires, I would suggest 6.00's up front and 7.10's in back for tire sizes. Assuming reversed spring eyes with the 2" drop axle and nothing else, should leave you just enough room for tire travel and steering and give a bit of a rake.

    There are a few running around with cars set up like yours that run 5.50's and 7.50's for maximum rake but to me, it looks a bit cartoonish, like a spare tire on the front and a tractor tire on the rear.
     
  3. Sort of off topic but the nice thing about dual updrafts is that you don't need a fuel pump.

    Charlie Stephens
     
  4. NielsK
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    Hey that was quick :)
    I tried to measure and calculate it. There no one around I can check out.
    It seem that I got close, I ended up with 6.0" in front and 7.20" rear :)
    Thanks a lot.
     

  5. NielsK
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    Yeah I tried 2 x 1½" SU carbs at one time. And it was nice I didn't have to fit a pump :)
     
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  6. jkeesey
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    Ive been thinking about trying SUs for a while now. How was that performance wise?
     
  7. NielsK
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    They fired up right away, and were easy to tune. Performance wise I would compare it to a Stromberg 97. But after a little fine tuning they were much smoother running and more crisp in throttle response

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  8. NielsK
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    OOOPPPPPS that was big . . Sorry
     
  9. Rusty O'Toole
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    A Cologne engine, was that their early attempt to cure air pollution? Ha ha ha funny joke ha ha ha.
     
  10. With a 4 inch drop axle if you go much bigger in the front, with fenders, it starts to get hard to get the tire off without lifting it at the frame.

    It is kinda cartoonish...which is the exact struggle I am having with mine. I promise it's not as bad in person vs. pictures though.

    This is 5.50x16 which is about 26 inches tall mounted. The rear is 7.50x17 which is about 32.5 inches tall.

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  11. NielsK
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    Hi :) Nice joke
    But:
    The Ford G28T engine was build on the Ford factory in Cologne, Germany. It's basically a upgraded Model B engine.
    They were used in trucks and as industrial engines.
    The engines specification type is called either G28T or G38T for the gas engine, which is supposed to be the same engine, but higher compressed head – the only part marked G38T. The model B engines were produced until 1942 in Germany, where the G28T engine production starts, and runs from 1942 until 1958.
    Mine is a G38T. It has a fully pressurized oiling system, counterbalanced crank, high volume aluminum oilpan. Mine is fitted with a stock A dizzy. I'll exchange that ASAP
     
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  12. 4 banger 4 life
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    what u gonna run for a dizz
     
  13. NielsK
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    I really like the way the rear tire fits in the rear fender. Actually I've got 2 x 17" inch rims. That might be an idea. I've only want 2" drop, so I could run 6.00" in the front.
    I'll play around with that thought
     
  14. Damn I want one of these.
     
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  15. I'm gonna change out to a 5.50x17 on the front. which is about 28 inches tall similar to the 600x16.
     
  16. NielsK
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    I might still have a dizzy from a english Ford. They have mechanical advance. I've also used a Bosch at one time, they have one that fits the G38T.
    Another easy fix here in Denmark is to modify a Volvo B 18 dizzy. that straight forward
     
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  17. 4 banger 4 life
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    oooo nice i am running a mallory...
     
  18. NielsK
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    Would that mean that your 17x7.50 would equal 16x8.00 in height? (give or take)

    Those engines are very expensive, in Denmark a low mileage engine will easily fetch 5000$.
    I bought the car for 11.500$ (Which is very cheap for a car in this condition in Denmark)
    The G38T is rated at 57 hp. Only problem are that bearing shells are rare as hens teeths
     
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  19. NielsK
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    Out of what? Could be worth trying, what about the advance curve, does that fit an A engine??
     
  20. 4 banger 4 life
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    Gleaner combine. It ran a model a motor and a single point mallory distributor.

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    I heard good things about the volvo tho.

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  23. GZ
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    Here's a 1929 Tudor I did a couple of years ago. Front end is stock with a 9 leaf reverse eye spring and 6.00 x 16" tires. Rear end has an 8 leaf Model T spring with 7.50 x 16" tires. I could have taken two leafs out of the front and tightened the front tire/fender gap up a bit in retrospect. On a sedan, the T rear spring is a bit light duty, the car could have used some tube shocks (the vendors sell a kit for this) to keep it from bouncing so much.I did not have that problem when I used the T spring on a coupe and roadster.
     

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  24. NielsK
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    :) Yeah well I wont run into one of those around here :D
     
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  25. 4 banger 4 life
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    Here is my car. 7.00 18"s on rear 5.25 5.50 17" on frt.

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  26. NielsK
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    This is very close to what I had in mind, It looks like there is no need for a dropped axle (This is my first full fendered)
    Yours is a very nice car.
    I've always run tube shocks before, but this one has Houdaille shocks. Oh well some "fanatic purist" will be happy for "saving them"

    I've even got a trunk box similar to yours :)
     
  27. NielsK
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    "4 banger 4 life"
    Nice carb setup, must run very smooth.
    How much is it dropped in frt??
    Chop looks great 4" ??
     
  28. NielsK
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    Any comments on the dual updraft issue??
     
  29. colinsmithson
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    I have only seen 1 set up that way ( twin up draft) it did look real cool
    and the owner told me it run good and he was happy with it
    I think your new A looks like a sweet ride
     
  30. pasadenahotrod
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    The Russians used a modified B Block in their GAZ jeeps into the 50s or 60s. The tooling was sold to the Chicoms and unfortunately destroyed some years later when they moved to a more modern engine in their jeeps.
     

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