Welcome to the THE H.A.M.B. forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Go Back   THE H.A.M.B. > General Discussion > Hokey Ass Message Board

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-05-2012, 05:46 PM   #1
Hot Rod Dan
Grenade Inspector
 
Hot Rod Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 101
Default Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I know some of you hate the Camaro clip/subframe idea for just about anything. But this is a budget project for my 15 year old son. He’s found a little Stude 2R truck and he wants to slam it.

He has very few bucks and is earning the money for everything, so a mustang II front suspension is not in the cards. I can possibly pick up a 2nd gen Camaro clip for $150 that looks like it was rebuilt at one time (upper ball joints have bolts rather than rivets). And I believe the track width is close to the 2R measurements.

So, has anyone done one of these mods and if so do you have any pictures or advise?
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 05:53 PM   #2
Tall Paul
Grenade Inspector
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Riverside, CA . . . Via Perth, Philly, and London
Posts: 331
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Not a camaro clip, but you could go jag IFS. Lotsa info on the net and here on the HAMB.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...t=jag+ifs+f100
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 05:58 PM   #3
need louvers ?
Alliance Member
 
need louvers ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: phoenix, az
Posts: 8,625
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I'm one the guys that would normally tell you not consider it, but in this case it would probably be ok. Track width should be pretty close, but if he really wants to drop it, it will drag tires all day long. The other concern I have is that those trucks have an awfully short nose to them out ahead of the front axle centerline. The steering box on the G.M. clip is pretty far forward - usually not a good combination. I would spend smone quality time with a tape measure before I went too far with this deal. At level best the steering box and core support will want to be in the same place though.

If it was mine I'd hit the U-pullit down the street and layout about 200.00 and go with a Jag XJ front end. Much easier to do and a bit narrower than the G.M.
__________________
HOT ROD CENTRAL LOUVER CO.
602.881.0175
louverguyquinn@yahoo.com
online   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 06:06 PM   #4
skull
Member
 
skull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: wet side washington state
Posts: 482
Lightbulb Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

l got a 1977 nova sub-frame under my dodge truck and l love it.

it drives and handles really well, one thing that you may have to do is C-notch the rear frame rails to get the drive shaft angle correct. l had to do that in the truck to get a 2.5% down pinion angle and put in a camaro rear-end.

Later
__________________
dodge truck tribute build to my son.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s....php?p=7118789
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 08:48 PM   #5
Hot Rod Dan
Grenade Inspector
 
Hot Rod Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 101
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Good idea about using a Jag front suspension.

Anyone have pictures of a Studebaker truck with a Jag (or other than stock) front suspension?
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 09:04 PM   #6
edweird
Alliance Member
 
edweird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: walterboro s.c.
Posts: 3,016
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

we put a 75 nova under this one. drives and rides great. the important thing is carefull measuring and good fabrication and welding skills. good luck.
Attached Images
 
__________________
see my artwork here www.pinheadlounge.com/edweird . will trade pinstriping or lettering for vintage gasser style[alum slots, cragars, torque thrust] rims. front [chevy bolt] or rear.[fordbolt]
online   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 09:09 PM   #7
edweird
Alliance Member
 
edweird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: walterboro s.c.
Posts: 3,016
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

i think camaro and nova are the same width. the nova fits real good.
__________________
see my artwork here www.pinheadlounge.com/edweird . will trade pinstriping or lettering for vintage gasser style[alum slots, cragars, torque thrust] rims. front [chevy bolt] or rear.[fordbolt]
online   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #8
BORRACHO13
Alliance Member
 
BORRACHO13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Dirty Dirty, SoUtH CeNtRaL L.A.
Posts: 631
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

if i had the choice i would go with the jag front end, i have not yet had a chance to do one myself, but the project seems easier and better looking than the clipping your car..
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2012, 10:27 PM   #9
aircap
Member
 
aircap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Doodah, Doodah
Posts: 813
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I know a guy who put the front and rear suspensions from a 80's Firebird under an R2 and said they fit with very few problems..... of course, he put a Ford motor under the hood.
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 04:32 PM   #10
48bufordsled
Grenade Inspector
 
48bufordsled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: u.k.
Posts: 120
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Got a Caprice subframe on my 2R5. Great, though you may need deeper backspaced rims.

Just put a Gen 2 camaro on the girlfriends M5.

Go do it...........................jag spares/rebuild parts are expensive

Paul
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	406360_10151004141358897_1365120998_n.jpg
Views:	68
Size:	95.8 KB
ID:	1713580  
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 06:49 PM   #11
40Standard
Old School HAMBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indy
Posts: 4,768
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I would do the Camaro clip, have one on a 56 Chevy truck and am real happy with it
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 07:05 PM   #12
choptvan
Alliance Member
 
choptvan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 2,078
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Get ahold of Dave Pareso. Back street Kustoms. Pretty sure he has one in his stude.
__________________
Hell Bounders CC Club President
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 07:49 PM   #13
CharlieLed
Alliance Member
 
CharlieLed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: San Diego, CA USA
Posts: 2,368
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

No Limit here in SoCal put out a video some time ago showing how they put a Camaro clip in a Chevy truck. Not a Stude but I am sure that the DVD would have a lot of good info that you could use...

http://www.nolimitparts.com/products.asp?dept=1207
__________________
The Stone Age did not end due to the lack of stones...

Last edited by CharlieLed; 08-13-2012 at 07:57 PM.
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 11:53 AM   #14
kcstude
FNG
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: missouri
Posts: 23
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Here are a few pictures of my '55 Stude, which has the same frame as yours, with a '75 Camaro subframe.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Truck - motor.jpg
Views:	120
Size:	125.5 KB
ID:	1729198   Click image for larger version

Name:	Truck - chasis.jpg
Views:	85
Size:	112.3 KB
ID:	1729199   Click image for larger version

Name:	truck.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	120.0 KB
ID:	1729200  

offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:10 PM   #15
Carl La Fong
Senior Member
 
Carl La Fong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sunny SoCal
Posts: 1,251
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I put a Volare in mine. Notch the stock frame to match and weld it in
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 12:43 PM   #16
PackardV8
Grenade Inspector
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 381
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

The Ford Aerostar front suspension is close to a bolt in on the C-cab. U-Pik yards are full of them for cheap, has disc brakes, decent steering, bolts to the stock frame with a couple of spacers and doesn't require any cutting or welding.

Check over on the SDC site or the Stude truck site for some photos.

jack vines
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 10:45 PM   #17
Rocky Famoso
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Reno/Sparks Nevada
Posts: 3,024
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

As per PackardV8 Ford Aerostar suggestion, here ya' go...
.
http://www.studebaker-info.org/tech/.../aerosusp.html
.
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2012, 11:04 PM   #18
temper_mental
Old School HAMBer
 
temper_mental's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,707
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

Camaro clips are to wide especially if you slam the truck the tires will rube the fenders.
__________________
RIP SGT Tim SANCHEZ
3/5/74 3/14/07

Thaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n43G4K_lOxA

TX mile 151
offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2012, 12:26 AM   #19
studebakerdave
Grenade Inspector
 
studebakerdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: YORBA LINDA CA.
Posts: 131
Default Re: Camaro clip for 1950 Studebaker truck a bad idea?

I have a 74 camero clip on my 53. It works great but if I had it to do over again I would save up for an after market mustang 2 or a fatman front suspension. When you cut the frame you lose all your body mounting points and brake pedal mounting points radiator I could go on and on. I have also seen one that was lowered with a droped axle and springs.I think the dropped axle would be the most tradional way Remember the old saying keep it simple stupid
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0157.jpg
Views:	42
Size:	499.2 KB
ID:	1729789   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0148.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	490.0 KB
ID:	1729790  
offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:31 PM.