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Old 05-05-2013, 12:59 PM   #3481
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The 62 car came from DST with a 406 but it was just a 406, Mr Healey would install a 406 that he had built and run the car at the Natiolals the car may have had a 427 installed at some time I am unsure. Here's a shot of the underside of the hood where you can barly see the louvers on each side and thats Mr. Tasca looking on
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:54 PM   #3482
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Agreed that the T-Bird scoop and louvers were there on the original car.
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The 62 car came from DST with a 406 but it was just a 406, Mr Healey would install a 406 that he had built and run the car at the Natiolals the car may have had a 427 installed at some time I am unsure. Here's a shot of the underside of the hood where you can barly see the louvers on each side and thats Mr. Tasca looking on
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:06 PM   #3483
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Dick Brannan told me the other day that the thunderbolts were almost hardtops but because of weight restrictions they used the sedans.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:47 PM   #3484
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I see the Dockery Ford T-bolt mentioned a few times, but does anyone know if it's still around?
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:42 PM   #3485
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Need help I'am kinda a Mustang guy and this looks pre Mustang to me can anyone ID this car is this the wanta-be 62 Thunderbolt or maybe the 62 Galaxie ,I guess this was the in car camera of the 60's you may have to cut+paste click on Bill Lawton 62 scroll up when you here the 406 drag.racersreunion.com/video/bill-lawton-62-ford?comment

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:33 AM   #3486
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Dick Brannan told me the other day that the thunderbolts were almost hardtops but because of weight restrictions they used the sedans.
The 65 was a Hardtop No ? Sport Coupe ?
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:55 PM   #3487
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Need help I'am kinda a Mustang guy and this looks pre Mustang to me can anyone ID this car is this the wanta-be 62 Thunderbolt or maybe the 62 Galaxie ,I guess this was the in car camera of the 60's you may have to cut+paste click on Bill Lawton 62 scroll up when you here the 406 drag.racersreunion.com/video/bill-lawton-62-ford?comment

Looks like a '62 Galaxie to me. Don't know if this is Tasca's '62 lightweight or not??
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #3488
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Great pictures Flintstonecharger. This is the first time I've seen a color photo of the original '63 Tasca AFX Fairlane. Maybe now the guy who made a clone will repaint his car the correct color instead of white. The red Tasca car you speak of was a 1962 Fairlane sedan and had a 406.

The wrecked '64 Thunderbolt pictured here was sold new at Acord-Connaway Ford in Eldorado, IL. The crash happened at the 1964 Indianapolis Nationals. Bradley Wagner was the driver.
The guy in the upper right corner of pic four looks like a young Bob Glidden. Got to show this to my brother for a second opinion.[He's a lot older than me]
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:43 AM   #3489
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The guy in the upper right corner of pic four looks like a young Bob Glidden. Got to show this to my brother for a second opinion.[He's a lot older than me]
It sure does !!!
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:32 AM   #3490
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Looking for information or photos of a factory sponsored and H-M-S prepared Thunderbolt that ran at the 1969 Winternationals in Pomona.

Allegedly driven by Wayne Gapp entry #933, ran in SS/D class and went out in the first round running against Bill Jenkins in his 68 Camaro that won class, see attached entry list and class winner list.

The only mention found in magazines to date, was in Apr 1969 Car Craft, see attached.

Depending on who you talk to there are different stories, whether this car actually participated or not.

If anyone has a National Dragster collection from 1969 and has information on the Winternationals SS/D class ladder or entries. Or anyone that may have been there and took photos, or know of a photo source.

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I am glad that Dave Lyall responded to my inquiry. However, I also have the additional information to this story:

The third owner of the former Gilmer Ford, Wayne Blackwood, did sell the T-Bolt back to Ford Motor Co. through a deal with Emil Loeffler. After Wayne sold the car, Emil wanted to know when he going to deliver it to Dearborn. Wayne said that was not part of the deal, so Ford arranged for Hubert Platt to haul it up to Dbn. BTW, speaking with Platt he does not ever recall doing this. After the car was delivered, Wayne received a call from Ford wanting to know who removed the correct four speed and replaced it with a Muncie transmission. Wayne suggested they speak to Platt about that.

Speaking with Emil Loeffler, he confirmed buying the car, but only handled the paperwork and never actually saw the car.

Somehow the T-Bolt (or someone's T-Bolt) was then sent out to H-M-S, where it was at their shop being worked on. Speaking with Randy Payne, he also recalls seeing it there.

Speaking with Arlen Whittington, he also recalls the car but mentioned during testing at a rented track the week before the WNats, the car was having carburetor problems and wasn't running correctly. Because of this, Arlen wasn't certain if they actually ran the car in competition.

The twist to this story is many years ago talking to Billy Williams, he said it was his second Thunderbolt that Ford borrowed to run and that he got it back with the engine blown up and Ford compensated him by replacing it with a new 427 engine.

Many years ago, I spoke to Wayne Gapp and he indicated he was to drive the T-Bolt, but didn't as the car was having problems.

So this is why I am looking for photos, a ladder list of SS/D class, or National Dragsters covering the 1969 Winternationals to help corroborate which Thunderbolt actually ran there. Who knows, maybe even both cars ran there.

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Wayne's recollection is that Stroppe was unable to complete the car in time and that on race day the tbolt was still sitting in the back corner of Stroppe's shop 'unfinished'. He doesn't recall which car it was nor where it went after this aborted effort. So- the car never was raced at this event.

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Old 05-29-2013, 07:48 PM   #3491
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:32 AM   #3492
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Can someone explain a couple things for me? What is the cloverleaf hood? What is meant when one reads "flange fender" in relation to the thunderbolt? Thanks!
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:11 AM   #3493
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To see what the very early cloverleaf hood looks like go to post 2132. It has a picture of Gas Ronda's Thunderbolt with the cloverleaf hood before the car was switched over to the bubble hood.
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:39 AM   #3494
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It's great to see these things in all their glory!
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:58 AM   #3495
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To see what the very early cloverleaf hood looks like go to post 2132. It has a picture of Gas Ronda's Thunderbolt with the cloverleaf hood before the car was switched over to the bubble hood.
Okay understand the cloverleaf hood now, thanks.

Anyone on the flange fenders versus what the other is?
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:37 AM   #3496
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I have some questions on the .....update....questions have been answered.

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Old 05-31-2013, 11:47 AM   #3497
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To see what the very early cloverleaf hood looks like go to post 2132. It has a picture of Gas Ronda's Thunderbolt with the cloverleaf hood before the car was switched over to the bubble hood.
So was the cloverleaf hood an actual "scoop" (that is, did it have the rear-facing openings like the bubble) or was it merely for carb clearance?
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:52 PM   #3498
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Carb/air box clearance. It did not have any opening to the outside. It simply "fit" around the air box hence the cloverleaf appearance.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #3499
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Anyone know if there is a Thunderbolt at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn?
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:53 PM   #3500
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There is not one currently on display.But,that does not mean they don't have one in storage somewhere. Hope this helps....Are you planning on visiting?
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