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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cretin, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. DICK DAKE - Here is a "sort of Tech" on what I did. All I needed to do was to have the carb pads on the top of the intake milled parallel with the crank centerline...parallel with the intake port flanges. I cut a 3/4" aluminum plate to fit inside the blower base (the part I bought on ebay), then made a paste board template of the carb pads/carb mounting stud holes. During all this, I set the plate/manifold base on the intake and measured/adjusted/moved it all until it was where it needed to be. Once it was set, I layed the template on the plate, did the machine work (drilling) and welded the plate to the base. By the way, the blower base I got on ebay (Dyers) was a raw casting and needed to have the top and bottom milled parallel to each other and drilled and tapped. It is generic, and can be used on any intake. This was how you got a blower intake years ago and made your own...

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  2. continentaljohn
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    My edmunds on a 331 with 354 heads
     

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  3. truckdude1
    Joined: Jan 26, 2009
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    4x2 log manifold on a 56 DeSoto built by Demon452 and now in my garage in a 56 IH pickup. This sucker is heavy! I tried painting it aluminum color but it still weighs the same?
     

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  4. coopsdaddy
    Joined: Mar 7, 2007
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    from oklahoma

    Any body know any info on a crager 4x2 for the 392,how many were made
     
  5. Here is the first dual quad factory aluminum intake manifold Chrysler Corp. ever cast for the 331 hemi in place on one of the Pan Am New Yorker race cars complete with the required water manifolding that completes the installation. The casting number on the manif itself was 1530220 and they were made in late '53 for the first Pan Am NYer race cars (think Mexican Road Race). Some of these also went into AAA stock cars. Carl Kiekhaefer's race team definietly had at least a few of these. Also attaching a pic of the manifold off the car.
     

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  6. BigBlockMopar
    Joined: Feb 4, 2006
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    Didn't see the 'newly made' Weiand dual quad intake come by after a quick glance, so how about a Hemi intake on a non-Hemi motor? ;)

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  7. I am attaching pictures that offer a comparison that most of you will never see and that most restorers are not aware of but some old racers will remember.

    The first picture is of the top of the standard cast iron '57-58 Chrysler 392 Hemi dual quad intake manifold. This is cast with part number 1733477. They made thousands of them for the '57-58 300C and 300D Letter Cars which produced 375HP and came with torqueflite automatic transmissions.

    The bottom of that manifold in standard production looks like the second picture. NOTE that the center heat ports are open to carry exhaust heat to the choke oven area beneath the carburetors. This is typical of all production manifolds from the factories regardless of carburetion.

    The third picture is also a cast iron manifold and still carries the same part number of 1733477. However, this is the racing manifold for the 390 horsepower stick shift cars of 1957. NOTE that the center heat ports are cast solid from the factory and also NOTE that the word "SPECIAL" is cast into the bottom side of this manifold. Exhaust heat does not get to the bottom of the carbs early in the engine heating cycle in a race engine.

    I own a 390HP 300C. If you have one of the SPECIAL intakes on your bench, please PM me. Thanks.
     

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  8. drag star on my 354.....6 chrome original to the engine strombergs with original chrome scoops....homemade fuel log....

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  9. brigrat
    Joined: Nov 9, 2007
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    Here's a dual four cast iron Hemi intake manifold that I think fit a 354 BEFORE it was brazed and modified for some other head. Anyone know why or for what it was modified for? #ber on the under belly looks like 1634285................ Thanks
     

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  10. Here are two examples of Hilborns on early Hemis.

    The first and by far the most important is a view of the Hilborns on the Chrysler Hemi that was prepared for the 1954 Indy 500, the rules allowed a stock block engine to displace up to 330cu in. During Firestone tire testing the Hemi blew away the existing lap times established by the Offy 4 bangers, which as pure racing twin overhead cam engines, were restricted to 270cu in.

    When the Indy 500 power brokers realized they could easily loose to a Detroit stocker motor, the rules suddenly changed and the Hemi was not allowed to race.

    For more info see the text at:

    http://www.wediditforlove.com/techtalk10b.html

    I took these photos at the Miller Meet in 2003...the awesome Hemi in the Kurtis chassis was wonderful. This is the actual Hemi Kurtis not a recreation.


    The second Hemi with Hilborns is my little Dodge Hemi sitting in a Model A based track-nosed roadster. The plating is nickel with some pickling done after plating. Modern Bosch injectors are hidden below the fake valley plate. The original Hilborn injector bosses/plenum are used as vacuum circuits for the EFI control module. The valve covers are spare covers used for mock up and storage.

    I you look closely the stamped D500 engine number prefix is visible.

    For more go to:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356019&highlight=track+roadster&showall=1
     

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  11. George
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    55 & 56 300s used that part #. strange isn't it!
     
  12. Von MoPar
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    from Australia

    Low Deck Dodge Offenhauser 3x2 94's
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  13. The first two pics are of a 57 Dodge 900 and the other was at Detroit Autorama a few years ago.
     

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  14. alfin32
    Joined: Jun 20, 2006
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    from Essex, Ma.

    Hilborn EFI
     

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  15. coopsdaddy
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    from oklahoma

    any info on the crager 4x2 how many were made?
     
  16. Scott F.
    Joined: Aug 9, 2006
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    Here's mine. Very cool thread. When I got this it had a stromberg aero-quad on it. Cool set up. Don't know what I'm going to put it on but I think it's cool!

    Scott
     

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  17. Jeff Norwell
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    I heard a rumor that in 57 , the 392 had been given fuel injection from the factory......has anyone ever heard this? I would understand if it was an experimental thing..as i heard the few units that did get produced never ran well at all.
    Anyone ever hear of this urban legend?
     
  18. Yep, that's a fact
     
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  19. GregCon
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    Sure, it's not an urban legend. The number seems to be 15 were made.
     
  20. Soviet
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    Truth. All were recalled after problems were reported.
     
  21. PRIMER STUDIO
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    Just found this tread:D Anybody got pics of 6x2 logs for the baby dodge 241-270?
     
  22. Hemi Joel
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    Scored up this super rare 8 carb Edelbrock X-3 last year. According to Vic Edelbrock, it is one of 13 that Edelbrock built by reworking the 6 carb X-3. I'm looking forward to making it run!
     

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  23. groundpounder
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    Very cool thread!
     
  24. marchal
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    do you know of any carb setups for a 270 dodge Hemi??
    thanks
     
  25. brigrat
    Joined: Nov 9, 2007
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    from Wa.St.

    270 Baby Hemi IMG_3299.JPG IMG_3300.JPG
     
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  26. George
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    Hot Heads has 4 bl, 2X2 & 3X2 intakes
     
  27. das858
    Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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    Gene Adam's -Hilborn injection on a 354
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  28. Dedsoto
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    Offy on the 241, Weiand on the 276

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  29. gimpyshotrods
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  30. Rickybop
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    Owner ended up not using this setup. I bought the cabarburetors.

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