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Old 09-21-2012, 04:16 AM   #1
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Default Allright, Allright a few new changes

We are always trying to refine and make this event better and more fair and more exciting to watch. We are also trying to take some of the subjectivity out of the difficult task of classifying cars. So please read the following below and pay attention when you get to the track. Please keep in mind that if this new system of what I would call modified or variable index system w/ dial in w/in each class determined by time doesn't work , then we will go back tyo the drawing board and continue to try and tweek it until we get it right.
Thanks and looking forward to seeing everyone in a few weeks.

DRAG RACING RULES
Racing is open to American-made cars ONLY, must be pre-1964 and older.

Your car must pass tech inspection (good tires, no loose pieces on car, no fluid leaks). Seatbelts and helmets are are required for all cars and racers.

Your racing class is determined by the time you are running on the track during time trials.

To race in eliminations, you must return to the tech booth after time trials and we will mark your class on your windshield.

During elimination rounds, racers will line up within each class and face off by dial-in time.

Your dial-in time is set by your fastest pass during time trials, no sandbagging and brakes at the top end - run as fast as you can, this is a race!



DRAG RACING CLASSES

Leisure Class (LC) - 15 secs and slower. Full bodied stock cars and slower stuff. Built for comfort.

Street Class (ST) - 14.99-12 secs - hot street cars

Comp Class (CC) - 11.99 - 10 secs - purpose built race cars

Super Comp Class - (SC) - 9.99 and faster - super fast race cars

Vintage Engine Class - (VE) - Qualifying cars may choose to run in this class - must have engine designed before 1954 - a mix of Flatheads, Inline 6/8's, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Dodge/Desoto/Chrysler wedge and Hemi's, Y Block Fords and similar vintage mills that aren't Small Block Chevys.



SATURDAY SCHEDULE
9am - Gates open
10am - Time trials start
1-2pm - Racers are grouped into classes at tech booth by the times they are running
2pm -Eliminations begin
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: Allright, Allright a few new changes

Right on! Glad yall put this on every year. Thank you!
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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Sounds great. Always enjoy coming down for this race.

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Your racing class is determined by the time you are running on the track during time trials.

To race in eliminations, you must return to the tech booth after time trials and we will mark your class on your windshield.
A couple of questions.
Do we need to bring time slips when we come up to the tech booth? and will this be your dial in for the rest of the race?
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:53 PM   #4
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Sounds great. Always enjoy coming down for this race.


A couple of questions.
Do we need to bring time slips when we come up to the tech booth? and will this be your dial in for the rest of the race?


"Your dial-in time is set by your fastest pass during time trials, no sandbagging and brakes at the top end - run as fast as you can, this is a race! "

as I read it...yes to both questions
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:25 AM   #5
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I like this !
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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as I read it...yes to both questions
Yes, that is correct!
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:17 PM   #7
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I like this !
We hope it will work great for everyone. We are trying to keep things competitive and have more similarly-fast cars line up against each other - since our classification before was more based on what we could see when a car rolled in - how a car was built, etc - it was somewhat subjective of what we could see and hear - and people could basically lie their way into a class, which wasn't fair sometimes - and we'd have to go chase them down. Now, by making the time trails as the instrument to determine classes - its more objective and keeps folks honest. Plus we don't have to have any arguments with folks over what class they should be in - its all for fun anyway.

Thanks for the kind words, we really appreciate it - we are doing very our best to keep folks happy with the format, and we are modifying it a bit in the effort to make fun and fair for everyone.

see you all soon!
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:40 PM   #8
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Just a thought here. In 1964 the TF/FC ran a 9.37. WE have exceeded that by leaps and bounds in the fast class at DOTD. This is all in the quest of having a fun event of which I have participated in and will continue to do. WE are now pushing an envelope which exceeds some of the safety standards we should pay attention to. I like this track but it was not designed for 8 second cars. I have seen a 8.40 pass at this event which went well thankfully . Has anyone considered doing an 1/8 mile for the Super Comp cars? Would not be a big deal. Much safer and the same show.
I myself will do whatever, I 'm gonna race, but having said that, I know that technologies have improveed considerably since 64.Even the pre 64 motors are getting it on with todays tech stuff. Would hate to see an excellent race venue get upside down over an accident. Have spoken with a few other racers and I didn't come up with this myself but thought I should bring it up for review. JUst sayin. Thoughts would be good. Thanks for all you do ahead of time. Hill Rat
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:35 AM   #9
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We have no problem w/ this and it can be switched easily at the track. If that is the general consesus of the cars in the Super Comp class then by all means we can shorten the race for that class. Safety first by all means.
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Just a thought here. In 1964 the TF/FC ran a 9.37. WE have exceeded that by leaps and bounds in the fast class at DOTD. This is all in the quest of having a fun event of which I have participated in and will continue to do. WE are now pushing an envelope which exceeds some of the safety standards we should pay attention to. I like this track but it was not designed for 8 second cars. I have seen a 8.40 pass at this event which went well thankfully . Has anyone considered doing an 1/8 mile for the Super Comp cars? Would not be a big deal. Much safer and the same show.
I myself will do whatever, I 'm gonna race, but having said that, I know that technologies have improveed considerably since 64.Even the pre 64 motors are getting it on with todays tech stuff. Would hate to see an excellent race venue get upside down over an accident. Have spoken with a few other racers and I didn't come up with this myself but thought I should bring it up for review. JUst sayin. Thoughts would be good. Thanks for all you do ahead of time. Hill Rat
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:38 PM   #10
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Sounds like a great compromise that will lead to closer races all the way down the track. Should be a good format for drivers and spectators.
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Just a thought here. In 1964 the TF/FC ran a 9.37. WE have exceeded that by leaps and bounds in the fast class at DOTD. This is all in the quest of having a fun event of which I have participated in and will continue to do. WE are now pushing an envelope which exceeds some of the safety standards we should pay attention to. I like this track but it was not designed for 8 second cars. I have seen a 8.40 pass at this event which went well thankfully . Has anyone considered doing an 1/8 mile for the Super Comp cars? Would not be a big deal. Much safer and the same show.
I myself will do whatever, I 'm gonna race, but having said that, I know that technologies have improveed considerably since 64.Even the pre 64 motors are getting it on with todays tech stuff. Would hate to see an excellent race venue get upside down over an accident. Have spoken with a few other racers and I didn't come up with this myself but thought I should bring it up for review. JUst sayin. Thoughts would be good. Thanks for all you do ahead of time. Hill Rat
Excellent post Rick! Not saying I wouldn't run mine a 1/4 mile at Temple, but it would be more of a stunt than a race. 1/8 mile for the really quick cars is just plain smart. Can't make it this time due to work but this years format and ideas are very encouraging.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:58 PM   #12
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At first i didn't like the changes but the more I thought about it it gets old being the fastest. Haha


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I like it and agree with Rick too. Keep it safe.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:47 PM   #14
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Like the safety idea Rick. Also alot easier on parts for you "Fast Guys" .

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DRAG RACING RULES
Racing is open to American-made cars ONLY, must be pre-1964 and older.

American made cars onlly? No Fiats?
I finally have the weekend of the event free and I was hoping to see an altered Fiat or two.
I'll go anyway, just wanted clarification.
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Not sure im gunna be able to attend this year or not yet ,but i am doing my best to be there.As far as the "dial in" race idea ,i like it.Nothing like a good side by side race in elemintations ...
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DRAG RACING RULES
Racing is open to American-made cars ONLY, must be pre-1964 and older.

American made cars onlly? No Fiats?
I finally have the weekend of the event free and I was hoping to see an altered Fiat or two.
I'll go anyway, just wanted clarification.


If its an Anglia or Topolino Gasser/Altered, thats fine - as long as its something on topic to nostalgic American drag racing history. We don't want VWs or European sports cars, or muscle cars - the show is about hot rods and vintage racers - and the year cut off and the American made qualification are there to keep a particular focus for this event.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:26 AM   #18
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Sounds like a great compromise that will lead to closer races all the way down the track. Should be a good format for drivers and spectators.
Yes, thats the general idea - thanks, Buzzard...
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:37 PM   #19
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Your dial-in time is set by your fastest pass during time trials, no sandbagging and brakes at the top end - run as fast as you can, this is a race!



Vintage Engine Class - (VE) - Qualifying cars may choose to run in this class - must have engine designed before 1954 - a mix of Flatheads, Inline 6/8's, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Dodge/Desoto/Chrysler wedge and Hemi's, Y Block Fords and similar vintage mills that aren't Small Block Chevys.


I am really glad to see that the Kontinentals/DOTD is trying out this concept....I have been a proponent of it because "Heads Up"(my favorite) isn't working and "Bracket" just doesn't seem to be real racing(when you depend on brakes to not break out).....Maybe, just Maybe the idea of dialing in at your "fastest" time will equal things out???

And the "Vintage Engine Class" "SHOULD" bring out some of you folks that want to run your old engines(but not as hard as you would run a little sbc).....and have some fun with your cars, being amongst like minded "Antique Engine" folks.....Was trying to get Kathy to run "Tuffy" with the Hemi, but she says she has to work that weekend......soooo who's gonna step up to the plate to fill in for her?
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #20
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Great input Hill Rat, See you guys at the track! By the way a few in our group will be staying at the Quality Inn on 35..Got a 67.49 AARP Rate and without it is 74.99 We need to have a parking lot Party!!!!! Look forward to having a great weekend as usual...

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