0 to 200 mph in 1.5 years.... Step 1 - ummmm, metalshapes?

[Ryan]

Yep. We are really gonna do it. Two kids that have never even been to Bonneville before are going to attempt to build a 200mph street coupe with little to no budget and a complete and total lack of know how... Seriously, we are as niave as a couple of gear heads can be. Clueless.

That's where you guys come in. We plan on using the group knowledge of the HAMB to get us to Bonneville in 2006 or '07 or whenever the hell we get there... and we plan on documenting everything here on the HAMB. You guys can pick our work apart, laugh at us, teach us, yell at us, whatever... It's going to be great fun.

So where do we start? Well, we have nothing. Zilch. Nada. We know we want a coupe (most likely a model-a), we know it will be powered by a pretty nasty small block, and we know we both have to fit in it as we plan on driving it to the flats from Kansas City, MO. Ohhhh, and its gotta have some what of a traditional hot rod vibe to it.

The most responsible thing to do we are guessing is to start at the platform/foundation - the frame. A low center of gravity seems to be pretty important, but this is gonna make fitting both of our tall asses in the car a problem. And then I started thinking about Metalshape's roadster and how roomy it was... And then Kevin realized he had a 30/31 coupe in pieces in his rafters... hummmm.... ummm, Metalshapes???? How the hell did you "unibody" that roadster of yours? We need your help - serve it up. Pictures would be rad.

Any other thoughts on chassis? Keep in mind that we are firm on doing a coupe from 29 to 31.

[choprods]

I built myself a 31 coupe about twenty years ago Ryan and I want to share this little tidbit of Info with you guys...
Use a AA frame from a 1-1/2 ton truck all exposed portions look same as a stock model A when body is on frame...
BUUUUT -the AA is 1/4" thick frame rails instead of 1/8".also nobody thinks theyre the shit so its cheap!
Should make a sturdy twistproof platform for ya.
They are way longer,so ya bob it at the right length and install a car rear crossmember.

[McGrath]

This should turn out to be a story worth following...

[Killer]

make sure the frame os o.k.

Over kill.

Seriously.

BTW, get a rule book before you start building.

[Unkl Ian]

AV8 should have some good ideas,he has posted pics of the yellow Tardell roadster here before.

[metalshapes]

I think you have seen all the good pics I have of the build allready...
I did not take nearly enough when I was building it.
But thats OK, I could take some more to show you some details.
If you or Kevin are ever in this neck of the woods, we can lift the Roadster up so you guys can see how it fits together.
If you guys would like me to help, I could do some Fab work for you here and ship it to you.
I am going to build another unibody frame anyway ( and maybe more than one...)
If the rules say you can channel the car, I think you can build a Model A at a total height of less than 40".
Depending on how much chop they will allow...

[Rocky]

NOoooooooooo, first step is to score a current SCTA rule book so you'll be able to pass tech. You have to build the car around the rule book. THEN, you plan the build. I'd like to be included in this endeavor in somw way, if nothing else, to follow along on the road to Bonneville [in my 41, natcherly] and pit for ya's at the salt...lemme know if I can procure any parts also.

[The37Kid]

Step ONE, Get the SCTA Rule Book! They say you need three, one for home, one for the shop and another spare for the office/worksite.

[Tman]

Got access to a Hausefelt bender, with a couple measured drawings we can bend up the cage for you and send it down to you in pieces. I mean as in free. I will spring for the material and donate the time. Randy, the pal of mine with the bender has done dozens of certified chassis.

[Drewfus]

1. read the rule book FIRST
2. re-read it
3. The LEGEND, Mr Weesner created the following drawing....
(this is what I want to build...I suspect that I am not alone... )
4. It doesn't have to be pretty, just fast....


Cheers,
Drewfus

[JamesG]

I know NOTHING about this subject, but I will say this..... KEEP SAFETY YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

And good luck Mi Amigos!

[metalshapes]

Rocky is right, the best way is to study the Rulebook and build the car to fit it.
I have found a loophole before, and the Tech guys had to agree that it was within the rules, but the next years Rulebook was a little more specific...

Edit,
I have some ideas, but not all of them are Traditional...

[WZ JUNK]

You really need to start with the rule book. Order one today. They have some unusual rules but generally we have found that they are that way for good reasons. Look at the records in the book and the engine sizes and you can get an idea of what you have to do.

This is a great site for lots of information and serious racers that can answer your questions http://www.landracing.com/

The build up of our car is at this site http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sum...oley-2004.html

I will try to help you any way I can.

[8th grade genius]

(St. Joseph, MO) While meeting in a small corner office in a shitty little town, Kevin Lee and Ryan Cochran have laid down initial plans to join the 200mph club.

Ryan, seeing how the plan was hatched here (St Joe) the way I see it some of the means to get you there should too. I have a polished hard anodized 6-71 blower that will need a drive to throw your way.

[flamedabone]

I trust you saw the Thacker/Shine roadster in this months R&C...That car is INSANE.

Hit up WZJUNK. He was involved with that wicked Stude that did 200+ it's first time out. VERY impressive feat.

It would be easier with a PONTIAC motor than with a Chevvie, but you know...

I'm excited already...-Abone.

[296 V8]

I was very impressed with the chassis in this car. check it in TRJ 18. that’s were I ripped off the pic.

[bobbleed]

You need to use a pair of 40 ford hoods for the nose.....

Either a 37 ford tube front axle or the mopar double dip..

That would rule.

It seems space won't be too much of an issue... The rear end will be hard mounted right? You could make it so the rear end bolts to the top of the frame.


Damn, I could get into woking on something like that.

You guys rule.

[Rocky]

Hooley and John [and Purple Pickup] speak from experience...it was a joy to hang with these first-time 200 MPHers last summer at the salt. Talk about positive attitudes!
The photo has nuthin to so with Hooley and John but this shubox prolly ran in the same or a similar class and I just dig the looks of it

[river1]

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Step ONE, Get the SCTA Rule Book! They say you need three, one for home, one for the shop and another spare for the office/worksite.

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actually four, one more for the shitter.

later jim

[Elmo Rodge]

Have you considered the purchase of a rule book? By the way, 200 is very fast. At Speed Week this year we (I crew for Wilson and Waters) bumped the E gas roadster record from 197 to 202. That's with a 259 inch injected Chevy. It is a runnin' son of a bitch. If you think I'm fooling about how fast it is, wait 'til Cword shows up. What if you make it? Give it hell Ryan. Wayno