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Old 07-03-2009, 03:55 PM   #21
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Here are a few more pics.









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Old 07-04-2009, 07:14 AM   #22
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:32 AM   #23
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:58 AM   #24
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If any one wants to know my take, P.M. me.
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:50 AM   #25
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:34 PM   #26
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I'm with you. The owner of the green Merc made the top frame, and brought the car to Cedardale Upholstry (Paul Reichlin - Rajo1 on the HAMB) for the top to be done. Paul did some pretty extensive research on padded tops...Gaylord, Carson, Hall, Hauser, etc to be sure that it was done with the correct materials and construction. He re-created a Hauser top on the car beautifully in my opinion.

I have a few more pics of the process....somewhere.
I agree with Dragnut and Hudsoncustom, green merc is right looking if you want early carson style. Carson and Gaylord had somewhat different styles. Gaylord had more slope in the back and Carson had a slightly more abrupt break in front of the back window. Original Carson tops were soft from the back of the quarter window and rear bow to the rear body panel. The rear of the top sides snap to the quarters and the upper rear body. the rear window snapped to the upper rear body on a separate flap. Snaps were inside the carson roll and problems arose when the stay-fast material got old and schrunk. It was not a good idea to remove the snaps when the top got tight. on the inside the headliner stopped at the rear bow. The heavy glass and frame caused the rear window flap to sag. We use a steel frame around the rear of the back corners and across the back window to avoid the shrinkage problem. I think the key to the overall look of the top includes mininum material over the header and keeping the proper thickness of the top over the doors. Too thin looks bad and too thick looks like a big marshmellow. Very difficult to describe in words we have one that is 21 years old and still looks great. The car is 51 Mercury Convertible at Rik's site under Paul Bragg. I have extensive construction photos of a 51 Ford top and I will try to get them on digital when I get home and I will post them. tinguy
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:48 PM   #27
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I, for one, do not need to do further "research", as I have dis-assembled a couple of surviving 55 year old Carson tops, and you are incorrect on many of your assumptions.

Ok, then edjamacate us, please. I for one would really like to know the way this was done back in the day.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:05 AM   #28
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A complete step by step photo series (257 photos) of how Tom Sewell restored the Carson Top on the Valley Custom built sectioned 1940 Ford for Ralph Jilek can be seen here. (click the top photo)



















Rod & Custom has an article on line of how Scott Guildner builds a modern day built Padded top....

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Old 07-05-2009, 12:28 AM   #29
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Rikster I have to say that 40 is sick!!! and the info on the carson tops isweet. I amthinking of doing a carson style top for my 39 but I know it really needs to look correct in order to pull off such a look. like Dragnut said other wise you end up with a fucked up focal point on the car and it will automatically hurt the image of it.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:51 AM   #30
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:56 AM   #31
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I think the key to the overall look of the top includes mininum material over the header and keeping the proper thickness of the top over the doors. Too thin looks bad and too thick looks like a big marshmellow. Very difficult to describe in words we have one that is 21 years old and still looks great. The car is 51 Mercury Convertible at Rik's site under Paul Bragg. I have extensive construction photos of a 51 Ford top and I will try to get them on digital when I get home and I will post them. tinguy
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:27 AM   #32
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The frame on Tom Black's 40 Merc can be seen in the back ground...





Inside with Carson Enblem on the right.



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Old 07-05-2009, 02:52 AM   #33
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:57 AM   #34
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Well lavenderblue, as you can now see there are still a few doing nice Carson Top customs the right way. hudsoncustom, that '40 Merc is a great example, thanks for posting the pics and when you get time, let's see those "pics of the process..." you got, nice job on the top Rajo1. The restoration of the Carson Top and interior on Ralph Jilek's-Valley Custom '40 is simply stunning, the pictures are very interesting. I've been lucky enough to have been able to dig into a couple of original Carson Tops myself, they were amazing time capsules. Also seen Scott Guildner build a few Carson style padded tops, he definatly has the eye for making them look correct. Rikster, thanks for the pics and info, your passion for all things custom, never ceases to amaze me. Thanks again for all your work, it's much appreciated and that '51 Merc you just posted, perfection is right!

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Old 07-05-2009, 03:04 AM   #35
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Kurt McCormic modified the top on his Harry Westergard Caddy custom to make it flow a bit better...











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Old 07-05-2009, 10:58 AM   #36
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As usual Rickster has posted some very intresting stuff w/ good historical reference just like we all like to see, and i hope that this will be the case for a long time.....
At the moment im in my old apartment picking up sum stuff to bring in my new home, so i dont have much time to search for cool stuff, but will tomorrow in the 1st break i get at work.
These here are the Coppa Cruiser, a UK cutom made out of a Austin, ive seen it in peerson many years ago and you wont believe how small this car is! Never the less an impressive one and the top is just right.
Others are a swedish chevy,(?)at least i think its a chevy, and a couple of very famous ones.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:01 AM   #37
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:15 PM   #38
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The top on this Buick (OSW, Sweden) is spot on. The portions are great! Of course the Valley Custom Ford is stunning, to say the least. Don't think it can be improved on. Don't care for most of the modern interpretations, shown in this thread.

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Old 07-05-2009, 01:22 PM   #39
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Wow that Cad is amazing. How about starting an own thread for it, Rikster?
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:35 PM   #40
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I agree with Dragnut and Hudsoncustom, green merc is right looking if you want early carson style. Carson and Gaylord had somewhat different styles. Gaylord had more slope in the back and Carson had a slightly more abrupt break in front of the back window. Original Carson tops were soft from the back of the quarter window and rear bow to the rear body panel. The rear of the top sides snap to the quarters and the upper rear body. the rear window snapped to the upper rear body on a separate flap. Snaps were inside the carson roll and problems arose when the stay-fast material got old and schrunk. It was not a good idea to remove the snaps when the top got tight. on the inside the headliner stopped at the rear bow. The heavy glass and frame caused the rear window flap to sag. We use a steel frame around the rear of the back corners and across the back window to avoid the shrinkage problem. I think the key to the overall look of the top includes mininum material over the header and keeping the proper thickness of the top over the doors. Too thin looks bad and too thick looks like a big marshmellow. Very difficult to describe in words we have one that is 21 years old and still looks great. The car is 51 Mercury Convertible at Rik's site under Paul Bragg. I have extensive construction photos of a 51 Ford top and I will try to get them on digital when I get home and I will post them. tinguy
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A complete step by step photo series (257 photos) of how Tom Sewell restored the Carson Top on the Valley Custom built sectioned 1940 Ford for Ralph Jilek can be seen here. (click the top photo)

Love the Ralph Jilek '40, one of the best ones for sure.
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