The Jalopy Journal

**Jive-Bomber** · 10-27-2009, 09:01 AM

I don't know how many of you are familiar with Octane magazine out of the UK, but its a very high end, glossy monthly with great photos and articles, mainly on classic European racing and sports cars. I caught this fantastic article in the October is...

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**Mr48chev** · 10-27-2009, 09:06 AM

It's amazing what a bit of ingenuity will create when a few guys decide to go racing.

I see a lot of things on that car that a lot of guys think of as being relatively recent idea and yet they were used on a car that is now 80 years old.

Special Ed · 10-27-2009, 09:09 AM

Yeah, Octane magazine is a good read. I was even fortunate enough to have my own car featured in it. Some interesting, and different cars in there! That Bloody Mary car is too cool!

woodbox · 10-27-2009, 09:13 AM

"By crikey" sounds like these two fellows were a couple of right propper rascals eh?

Rootie Kazoootie · 10-27-2009, 09:44 AM

There's a couple of vids on youtube of the car at Prescott:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHC7_vV6zDU

**model.A.keith** · 10-27-2009, 09:40 AM

The car was at Shelsley Walsh earlier this year doing some 'demonstration' runs up the hill

car was taken out of 'hibernation' for the event,

turns out that the crankcase on one of the engines is in about a dozen or so pieces and had been temporarily tacked together to get it running

I understand that 'funds permitting' it may be restored to a more useable condition.

still great to see the car at a real historic venue.

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Ned Ludd · 10-27-2009, 10:10 AM

Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod.

Nads · 10-27-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ned Ludd

Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod.

Erm, Doane.

That thing sounds like a squadron of angry wasps.

Ned Ludd · 10-30-2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nads

Erm, Doane.

That thing sounds like a squadron of angry wasps.

I knew there was a spello there, but I couldn't put my finger on it. It was only hours later I had a forehead-slapping moment!

Artiki · 10-27-2009, 10:54 AM

Hardcore. Pure and simple.

Tman · 10-27-2009, 11:02 AM

Sounds nasty!

Asphalt Outlaw Hero · 10-27-2009, 11:14 AM

JAP V twins were THE pre-war V twin motors in England and Europe. Brough-Superior used them until around 1936.Lots of record attempts were done using them.
Morgan used wooden frames for a long time.Actually stronger and more flexible than steel ( don't try to Z it though

).
Great story.

KolkataKustoms · 10-27-2009, 12:27 PM

The earliest Fords had wood frames as well. Including Henry's race car the 999. I love these real oldies. Is this the next level of rat rod? Wood frame, maybe even air cooled roadsters. You notice that the only fender on the Bloody Mary car is the one next to the driver, asymetricly stripped down roadster is very cool.

I've seen the 999 several times at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It set a landspeed record on Lake St. Clair in 1904. 91 mph. How Cool is that?

**SAVAGE** · 10-27-2009, 12:39 PM

Awesome

shmoozo · 10-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KolkataKustoms

The earliest Fords had wood frames as well. Including Henry's race car the 999. I love these real oldies. Is this the next level of rat rod? Wood frame, maybe even air cooled roadsters. You notice that the only fender on the Bloody Mary car is the one next to the driver, asymetricly stripped down roadster is very cool.

I've seen the 999 several times at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It set a landspeed record on Lake St. Clair in 1904. 91 mph. How Cool is that?

Yeah ... think about the wind chill on a frozen lake at 91 MPH in a car as open as that. BRRRRRR!!!

Oh, and the engines in the cars (there were two, actually) were ... well, the Wikipedia article about them describes them like this:

Quote:

Both of the cars were extremely heavily engineered, with an 18.8 L inline-4 engine, 230-lb flywheel, a bore of 7.25 inches (184 mm) and a stroke of 7.0 inches (180 mm).

Let's see, 18.8 liters is almost 1150 cubic inches, right? And that's a 4 cylinder engine, so over 280 cubic inches per cylinder! Not too many racing cars with engines like that being built today, eh? Those things must have sounded like tug boats!

hotrodfil · 10-27-2009, 12:55 PM

Bloody Mary lost her engines temporarily - they lived here briefly...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2904375...7608892153628/

**fur biscuit** · 10-27-2009, 01:46 PM

"the corners are no problem, it's those tricky straight bits in between"

60'shotrod · 10-27-2009, 01:48 PM

Us Brits can do something RIGHT!

Nick.

Mart · 10-27-2009, 03:51 PM

Diggin it a lot. Like the extra frame rail straight up the middle.
Well guys, there's a set of plans there....

22dodge · 10-27-2009, 04:12 PM

Awesome car. Always had a "thing" for cycle cars...

Thanks for the article, Jive Bomber.

10-27-2009, 09:01 AM	#1
Jive-Bomber Alliance Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Moraga, Ca Posts: 2,428	Bloody Mary I don't know how many of you are familiar with Octane magazine out of the UK, but its a very high end, glossy monthly with great photos and articles, mainly on classic European racing and sports cars. I caught this fantastic article in the October is... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Jalopy Journal, click here.

10-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#2
Mr48chev Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Yakima Valley, WA Posts: 15,637	Re: Bloody Mary It's amazing what a bit of ingenuity will create when a few guys decide to go racing. I see a lot of things on that car that a lot of guys think of as being relatively recent idea and yet they were used on a car that is now 80 years old. __________________ Definition of a "work car". One you have to work on all weekend so you can drive it to work the next week.

10-27-2009, 09:09 AM	#3
Special Ed Old School HAMBer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,934	Re: Bloody Mary Yeah, Octane magazine is a good read. I was even fortunate enough to have my own car featured in it. Some interesting, and different cars in there! That Bloody Mary car is too cool! Last edited by TotallyCustom; 10-27-2009 at 12:52 PM.

10-27-2009, 09:13 AM	#4
woodbox Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Whangarei New Zealand Posts: 594	Re: Bloody Mary "By crikey" sounds like these two fellows were a couple of right propper rascals eh? __________________ There is only one sure thing in this life.....and that's doubt.....I think!

10-27-2009, 09:44 AM	#5
Rootie Kazoootie Old School HAMBer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,538	Re: Bloody Mary There's a couple of vids on youtube of the car at Prescott: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHC7_vV6zDU Attached Thumbnails

10-27-2009, 09:40 AM	#6
model.A.keith Alliance Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: st.uk in the middle Posts: 5,907	Re: Bloody Mary The car was at Shelsley Walsh earlier this year doing some 'demonstration' runs up the hill car was taken out of 'hibernation' for the event, turns out that the crankcase on one of the engines is in about a dozen or so pieces and had been temporarily tacked together to get it running I understand that 'funds permitting' it may be restored to a more useable condition. still great to see the car at a real historic venue. . . __________________ 28A Coupe 28AR Roadster If it ain't broke..................Don't fix it......! Give to Cancer Research.......save a life www.driveoutcancer.org . Last edited by model.A.keith; 10-27-2009 at 10:35 AM. Reason: added picture

10-27-2009, 10:10 AM	#7
Ned Ludd Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 2,263	Re: Bloody Mary Ooh. John Bolster's car. It was as important in the history of the Special as cars like the Duane Spencer roadster were in the history of the hot rod. __________________ Dawie '58 Morris Minor '31 A project my blog: Artisanal Cars

10-27-2009, 10:54 AM	#10
Artiki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brum... Posts: 1,950	Re: Bloody Mary Hardcore. Pure and simple. __________________ www.flatheadmeltdown.com - Home of the world's quickest street flatheads and four-bangers.

10-27-2009, 11:02 AM	#11
Tman Old School HAMBer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beautifull Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 28,310	Re: Bloody Mary Sounds nasty! __________________ Open for business, website in developement www.compulsionrodandcustom.com

10-27-2009, 11:14 AM	#12
Asphalt Outlaw Hero Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dixie Posts: 942	Re: Bloody Mary JAP V twins were THE pre-war V twin motors in England and Europe. Brough-Superior used them until around 1936.Lots of record attempts were done using them. Morgan used wooden frames for a long time.Actually stronger and more flexible than steel ( don't try to Z it though). Great story.

10-27-2009, 12:27 PM	#13
KolkataKustoms FNG Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kolkata (Calcutta) India Posts: 15	Re: Bloody Mary The earliest Fords had wood frames as well. Including Henry's race car the 999. I love these real oldies. Is this the next level of rat rod? Wood frame, maybe even air cooled roadsters. You notice that the only fender on the Bloody Mary car is the one next to the driver, asymetricly stripped down roadster is very cool. I've seen the 999 several times at Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. It set a landspeed record on Lake St. Clair in 1904. 91 mph. How Cool is that?

10-27-2009, 12:39 PM	#14
SAVAGE Alliance Vendor Join Date: May 2002 Location: LOS GATOS CALIF USA Posts: 874	Re: Bloody Mary Awesome __________________ www.savagespeedgarage.com

10-27-2009, 12:55 PM	#16
hotrodfil Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Flatlands of Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,278	Re: Bloody Mary Bloody Mary lost her engines temporarily - they lived here briefly... http://www.flickr.com/photos/2904375...7608892153628/ __________________ "Tradition is a guide and not a jailer." W. Somerset Maugham My '27 Mercury..Monkeybiker no more..

10-27-2009, 01:46 PM	#17
fur biscuit Alliance Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: corner of 23rd and Cutting Posts: 7,286	Re: Bloody Mary "the corners are no problem, it's those tricky straight bits in between" __________________ "Zounds! Zorched by Zarches, Spaceman Spiff's crippled craft crashes on planet Plootarg!"

10-27-2009, 01:48 PM	#18
60'shotrod Old School HAMBer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Wales Posts: 2,910	Re: Bloody Mary Us Brits can do something RIGHT! Nick. __________________ The closer you are to Caesar, the greater the fear. http://www.vhra.co.uk/VHRA/Home.html

10-27-2009, 03:51 PM	#19
Mart Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 2,107	Re: Bloody Mary Diggin it a lot. Like the extra frame rail straight up the middle. Well guys, there's a set of plans there.... __________________ My build thread: 33 5W Visit my website: www.martsrods.com Try and diagnose my misfire: My Video

10-27-2009, 04:12 PM	#20
22dodge Grenade Inspector Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 251	Re: Bloody Mary Awesome car. Always had a "thing" for cycle cars... Thanks for the article, Jive Bomber.

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