Hot Rod & Custom Inspiration

[Ryan]

For background, check here.

Got more inpirational photos or ideas? Pile em up fellas...

BONUS: How cool is this little Fiat? It was a service car for Ferrari and although smaller in scale, very similar to a '37 Ford. Too cool...

[dabirdguy]

VERY cool.
I been toying with doing something like that with one of the Cabs I have in the barn. Was thinkng of making it into a camper for overnithg meets and stuff.

[sodas38]

I have always found the 1937 Cord to be a graceful car. I think you could take some ideas off it as well.

The interior with respect to the gauge cluster may be a good cue. The idea may be as simple as using some diamond plate to replicate the look here:

And of course the side pipes that are visible and well know on these models and you could also get some inspiration from the grille:

[krusty40]

Ryan - you are SO right; there's a lot out there that can be brought in to traditional rods and customs without becoming street rods and modern kustoms. Thanks for showing us what we can be if we think outside the kulture.

[Automotive Stud]

Originally Posted by sodas38

I have always found the 1937 Cord to be a graceful car. I think you could take some ideas off it as well.

The interior with respect to the gauge cluster may be a good cue. The idea may be as simple as using some diamond plate to replicate the look here:

And of course the side pipes that are visible and well know on these models and you could also get some inspiration from the grille:

I always thought the little tiny finger shifters were cool as hell in these cars. See the little chrome job next to the steering column? (not the levers in the dash)

[Mike Zenor]

Some French cuisine... 1939 Talbot Lago and 1935 Delage. Inspiration for a mid 30s Ford kustom, maybe?

[flyingpolock]

It probably goes without saying, but the Delahaye lineup is just loaded with great inspiration... flowing lines, graceful everything, and those low headlights and tall grille look flat-out MEAN.... Consider the Delahaye's design cues when compared to Westergard, etc. Low, sleek, flowing....
And this Dodge I had posted before on a Friday Art show, but the inspiration ran the gamut from Jaguar to the Russian Gaz (side trim was inspired by their model 13... which bears a striking resemblance to a Packard...)

[oldandkrusty]

Flyingpolack, you have it exactly right. Delahayes are the best references when you need some design cues. They have it all. It's hard to think of anything bad about them.

Now, if you are thinking rods - use the Duesenbergs for inspiration. From their gorgeous bodies to the detail on the delicious straight eight engines, there is no better reference. Perfect, just perfect.

[ryangobie]

Ryan, I've really love these entries. I think a lot of people feel the need to stay within this vaccuum of a predefined notion of traditional. You give just perfect examples of period items and stylings that would really set something off. I really like the finned drums myself. It's simple, can be found in the past and looks stunning. I'm glad you approach this with a designer's eye, an open eye, but an eye that knows when something would be too much.

[Matt Franklin]

I love this post. Lots of fine design work out there.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I'm inspired by the Arts and Crafts style of architecture and design, particularly, the lamps of the 1920s. Most of the shapes aren't exactly right for traditional cars, but some of the styling cues, I believe, are right on. And the rich glow of copper and mica materials could make some awesome turn signals or dash lights. Imagine driving at night with your whole dash insert glowing and scaring the crap out of the guy in the next lane when he sees the illuminated crazed look on your face.

I've attached an image of some example shapes and here are a few more links:
http://www.craftsmanhome.com/lightin...able-wood.html
http://www.craftsmanhome.com/lighting/arroyo/list.html

And a source for mica...
http://www.ashevillemica.com/lampshademica.htm
(They have "sample kits" for $20.)



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[flyingpolock]

Originally Posted by '29MurrayTub

I love this post. Lots of fine design work out there.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I'm inspired by the Arts and Crafts style of architecture and design, particularly, the lamps of the 1920s. Most of the shapes aren't exactly right for traditional cars, but some of the styling cues, I believe, are right on. And the rich glow of copper and mica materials could make some awesome turn signals or dash lights.

Ya know, '29MurrayTub is on to something here... Consider both Arts and Crafts, as well as Mission-style design. Function first, with a twist of "how to make it look nice"... The Bahaus School of design offers tremendous inspiration, obviously.
Considering the mention of some killer dashboard illumination, while not European, imagine a Euro-inspired dash cluster lit Electroluminescently (say THAT five times fast), similar to older Imperials, early Chargers... you could pull off some serious deco-inspired looks with a little creativity. The right combination of nickel, chrome, and maybe even some brass would breed a kick-ass instrument panel... and even jusicious use of some engine-turned inserts...
Anyone considered looking to custom musical instruments for inspiration as well? Some of the stuff from Fender's Custom Shop are pure inspiration in more than one way, as well.
Great thread... It's gonna cause me MANY sleepless nights at the drawing board!

[synthsis]

did anyone see the R&M auction million dollar auction show on TLC the other night? the Talbot Lago went for something like 3.25 Mill. good gawd.

[cleatus]

Does anyone know what car, either American or Euro, that would be considered "The First" to have full fade-away fenders - where the front fenders continue all the way to the back?

Westergard built a 40 Merc for Butler Rugard in the early 40s that may be the first car "customized" to have full fades, but what I am wondering is what car was - or may have been - the inspiration for this modification?

What MIGHT they have seen to make them think "hey, that would be cool on my car"?

[302GMC]

Originally Posted by cleatus

Does anyone know what car, either American or Euro, that would be considered "The First" to have full fade-away fenders - where the front fenders continue all the way to the back?

Westergard built a 40 Merc for Butler Rugard in the early 40s that may be the first car "customized" to have full fades, but what I am wondering is what car was - or may have been - the inspiration for this modification?

What MIGHT they have seen to make them think "hey, that would be cool on my car"?

In 1933 Pierce-Arrow built 3 (?) Silver Arrow show car/prototypes with fadeaway design. Sidemount spares tucked into locking wells looks a little strange at first glance.

[cleatus]

Thanks for that info, I'm doing a search of pics of that car now.
Anyone else know of any pre-war cars with full-fade away fenders?

Originally Posted by 302GMC

In 1933 Pierce-Arrow built 3 (?) Silver Arrow show car/prototypes with fadeaway design. Sidemount spares tucked into locking wells looks a little strange at first glance.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by cleatus

Does anyone know what car, either American or Euro, that would be considered "The First" to have full fade-away fenders - where the front fenders continue all the way to the back?

Westergard built a 40 Merc for Butler Rugard in the early 40s that may be the first car "customized" to have full fades, but what I am wondering is what car was - or may have been - the inspiration for this modification?

What MIGHT they have seen to make them think "hey, that would be cool on my car"?

cleatus - here's a start in your quest - the '42 Buick that rolled off the line in Sept. of '41. The text would indicate that there was probably a "minor" American car that had the same styling, previous to the Cadillac built for the Duke of Windsor. I couldn't find any pictures of "The Duchess" in the reference book, "GM - The First 75 Years Of Transportation Products".
At least this will give you the GM entry.


Mutt

[repoguy]

great thread!

[cleatus]

Originally Posted by Mutt

cleatus - here's a start in your quest - the '42 Buick that rolled off the line in Sept. of '41.
Mutt

Thanks Mutt, I didn't realize GM had come out with that body style quite that early. I previously thought that was done when they finally got back into post-war production.

Learn sumpin every day...

[Paul]

look at engine compartments of luxury cars from the depression era

Hispano Suiza, Pierce Arrow, Bugati, Duesenberg and others.

with various polished metals, brass, copper, aluminum, even hand rubbed and oiled steel
with rich paint colors,
and engine turned panels and castings

all parts functional and very nicely layed out
all obviously hand made
with a distinctly artistic eye

[flt-blk]

No discussion of european cars can be complete without the Auto Union
influence. From road race cars to Land speed racing