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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by shotgunbettie, Apr 27, 2010.

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  1. big creep
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    he still needs his ass KICKED!
     
  2. 40hemicpe
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    i would talked to his club members to straightin this out i am pretty sure they are tired of the bad rap they are gettin been hearing about some of the members ripping people off..
     
  3. specialk
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    IIRC (and IANAL) but a small claims judgement holds when he sells his property. So, if he owns a home, and you know it's up for sale, just attach to the sale.

    Again IANAL - but you could check this out :)
     
  4. brad chevy
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    Too bad you can"t take care of him by using your handle method ( " SHOT GUN "BETTIE.) post your own ad on craigslist telling all that to beware of being ripped off by this guy and flag his ads .
     
  5. SHRUM
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    Sounds like this was put out for a reason......
     
  6. Theo Douglas
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    Small claims cases can cost about $100 to file, as I understand; usually, they're filed in the county where you were ripped off; and I BELIEVE you need the person's real name, and some information about them--place of business, residence address, their car make, model and license number.

    And even if you win in court, which sounds likely, all that means is you are legally within your rights to demand that money. That doesn't mean this jackass has to pay you, though--and he very likely won't.

    Still could be a satisfying endeavor, though--especially if, after you win a judgement against him, you were to send a copy of the entire case to, say, the Riverside Press-Enterprise or the OC Weekly or the Orange County Register.
     
  7. falconeer
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    Bettie,
    I guess i am old school. To me the amount you paid him is not important. You did it in good faith and expected to get what you paid for.

    I know of this happening to some one very close to me. He didn't recover his money. However for another 500.00--750.00 and the right people-------- Its my understanding that the ripper now walks with a limp
    and dosen't have good use of his left hand. Needless to say he is now in a diff. line of work, when he can get it.
     
  8. I got stiffed back in the 90's, guy was supposed to paint a car for me, friend of a friend, I fronted a bunch of money. He stripped it down, and then stopped working on it. Little did I know that his wife kicked him out for cheating on her, and he let his business go to sh%%. I sold the car at a loss covered in surface rust. The guy had to move out of state because other folks with less restraint than me started to do things to his daily driver and shop.
     
  9. crotex
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    I have been having the same problem with another guy. I have been told get a note written up called a promisary note. This not will have the amopunt he owes you and if he doesn't pay it up you will collect a different way. Then do like said above have a buddy get in touch with him and end up serving him with the paper. After however much time you gave him if he does not pay up. You can go to his house or shop and load up anything you want to take home with you and you can get a police escort to o with you and they make sure he lets you. I know that there is probably a little more to the process but that much is what I have been told about my similar situation and I am working on doing it myself.

    Another piece of advice is don't go find hima nd whoop his ass. I did that the first time I found my guy I stomped his ass and took the money that was in his wallet. it was only 17 bucks out of the 2300 he owes me. Then he went to the police telling them I mugged him. However while I had him on the ground I did make him write me out a contract saying he would pay me and when and what for, signed and dated by him. haha
     
  10. Jeff Norwell
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    Does that mean I can't call ya by your pet name....Dirty Danny?...i like the ring of that:)
     
  11. SanDiegoJoe
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    If you get back to a place where you can have the work done on your car, PM me and I'll direct you to some reputable builders in town.

    Too bad about getting the "Dirty" end of the deal.

    - Joe
     
  12. shotgunbettie
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    Dirty Steve was a member of the Knight Owls not sure what happened with that car club. He is now a member of the GONNERS SO CENTRAL. I wonder if they really want their reputation tarnished by Steve's unethical practices. I hope the rest off this car club does not stand up for a guy who rips people off.
     
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  13. 34ratpickup
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    Yeah I have been ripped off before. Took a boat motor to a guy to have rebuilt. The motor was locked up but I took him the complete motor with a nice carb, new intake manifold and nice valve covers needless to say the guy kept blowing me off. Never saw the parts again. I learned a hard lesson and come to find out someone was so pissed off at him they vandalized 6 of his customers cars, his shop and his personal cars. FIled a claim against the BBB and tried to take him to court. Never got a dime out of it.
     
  14. storm king
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    I had a similar situration with a custom shop in Tulsa. The guy does crap work, but all the young dweebs didn't care, they just wanted their ricers slammed. I saw a truck he'd done and asked him to do mine the same way. He kept stalling and stalling, finally said it was done. It was total crap, didin't have half the things we agreed on done, and he had it about a year! Right after that I saw a news show about the guy and his poor business practices. Know what happened? His business increased about 200%!!! Unfortunately; it does appear that there's no such thing as bad press...
     
  15. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    Oral contracts are enforceable. Take him to small claims court.
     
  16. Retro Jim
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    Well did you ever think with a name like that and he is always hard to find that might have brought up a question in your head is this is a guy you trust with your car ! Does he have a business ?
    Buy the sounds of what you told us he is someone who you don't know , doesn't have a business and can't get a hold of .
    So why the hell did you give him your money and car ???????
    I guess you learned a lesson the hard way . Never pay for a job in cash before the job was started and don't ever give your keys to someone you don't know and can't get a hold of .
    I guess you are damn lucky you found your car . Now drive around with a bat till you find him !

    Retro Jim
     
  17. shotgunbettie
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    Hung out with him at a few spots, he had a shop in Murrieta and OC,but of course I didn't get the real story as to why the shops were closed. Of course I heard from him on the regular till I gave him my money. He's smooth in his art of stealing. Even saw him at VIVA and got a bad vibe from him.
     
  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    Small claims for sure. Verbal agreements are enforcable. I'd suggest an hour in the public library and get the #s of the laws and ordinances he's broken to go with the breach of contract. The threat of legal fines will make yours look cheap. Push it. Don't just roll over on the gig. Get a list of others as well. Nail this prick by the balls!


    On the condition of course that your side of the storie's true. Remember there's 3 sides to every case like this. Yours, theirs, and the truth. Stick with the 3rd one and good luck.
     
  19. shotgunbettie
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    You are correct highlander. I do have a list of others this has happened to. I was patiently waiting for him to do the right thing gave him 2 wks to cough up my money. He hasn't so now I want to get the word out so this does not happen to anyone else.
     
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  20. Brahm
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    Pretty common in socal, I've had it happen to me a few times over the years (really gotta watch out for those fab guys..they tend to be flakes.). It's one of those deals where you really gotta do your homework up front. When I went to build my up my drag car the first time I wanted a chromemoly cage so wanted it professionally tig'd took it to what appeared to be a reputable shop, gave the guy a deposit, he gave me a recite then jerked me around for months (I would go there a couple time a week to hound ...always the same story "tomorrow tomorrow" ) Eventually he left the car outside were it was stripped, it took me months of fighting with him to get him to finish up and repay me for what was stolen, and over that time I met so many people with similar stories (Note to all stay away from Rj Simrock (he switched over to imports, but still pokes his head around domestics & nhra). I've known some guys that have done the same to others, a lot of great mechanics make really shitty businessmen.

    Either way wish you luck.. If your looking for a good shop in SD, talk to Abe @ San Diego Rod and Customs. They are good guys and get things done when they say they will.
     
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  21. SakowskiMotors
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  23. Truth be told, you're damn lucky to have your car back . . . it could easily have disappeared along with Steve.

    Like most lessons in life - they come hard. I would never leave my car with anybody other than a known shop, that I had inspected, that I knew had insurance (or that I knew my car was insured to be at), etc..

    One look at most shops and it is easy to see why certain ones are busy, why they charge what they do, etc.. When you see a real clean shop, clean operation, nice cars, nice clientele - it is all because somebody does quality work and knows how to run a good business.

    It isn't rocket science to find good suppliers and shops . . . just takes a little bit of time, some paper work and some clear expectations to get it right ( at least most of the time!).
     
  24. NEVER do work with someone you don't know! There's lots of HAMBers who would help another one out. Stay away from strangers...
     
  25. sounds like a freind of mine, who has a 67 camaro(I know)anyway took it in to "a guy he knows" 4 years later he gets his car back,(i think). i was at the parts store with him a while back, and a guy was tellin my freind that his bro had just got his trans am back after 2 years for a stinkin' paint job! anyway at least you were able to get your car back.
     
  26. Sorry about your bad experience. My experience in the early 90's with outside support in getting a roof fill redone on my 32 was interesting. Very talented guy (also named Steve) working in a small shop in Corona. Calls me one day after he has had my car a couple of months to say he sold his business and was going to work for a Gold Chainer who opened a place in Temecula and did I want him to finish or not. Well the car had a big hole in the roof and he already had the new fill panel so not much choice. I said OK as long as our deal stayed the same. Got a call from the Gold Chainer a few days later with new hourly rate, (he said Steve told him that's what the deal was), and an estimate of $40K to make it a real show car. I told him I only wanted the original contracted work completed and at the same rate. Moral of the story; good fab guys don't always make good businessmen.
     
  27. big creep
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    sooo has the thief paid up yet????? what a scumbag, someone here has to know him, oh wait......................this is the hamb.......................not his kind of place, no one here put up with that kind of shit!
     
  28. junk yard kid
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    I always wonder if it just happens or if there are actual intentions of ripping off. Maybe there just posers, doesnt make it right though. revenge is always good served pipping hot then again cold.
     
  29. To avoid that just do what I did, bought my own tools, learned how to weld (still learning actually) and do it yourself. If not then let me know if me and my SKS 7.62 can help haha.
     
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