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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rcnut223, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. LBH
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    The way I was treated ......... I say that they don't give a rats ass .......... so don't expect them to show up here .........
     
  2. big duece
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    Who else shortens and resplines axles, I need a pair done.
     
  3. DDDenny
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  4. rcnut223
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    Fixed the rear end today

    Made a jig, cut the weld Moser made, straightened the axle and weldeder back up.

    Hope everything stayed in place 004.JPG 006.JPG 008.JPG 010.JPG
     
  5. rcnut223
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    [​IMG]

    Before shot !
     
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  6. oj
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    Somewhere near you is a dude that builds drag cars, he'll have an alignment bar. Find him and take the rear to him for welding. I give you credit for creativity and an A+ for effort but find that guy, go to him and you won't regret it.
     
  7. thirtytwo
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    Once you put it back together ... You can spin the housing 360* with the tires on the ground if they don't move you did good.. Can put an indicator on the tire
     
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  8. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Nice work! Way better than Moser's!
    Send Moser a picture of your work that fixed THEIR shitty problem. Ask them why they think you had better results on your garage floor than you did with their pro specialty shop?
    In fact, tell them that it was so easy that you're contemplating going into the business so you can "take care of" the rest of Moser's customer's.
     
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  9. rcnut223
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    Thanks OJ, she's welded now. Guess I would have to straighten it if it's off

    Good suggestion Thirtytwo.
     
  10. big duece
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    Yes, with an alignment bar or the indicator method if it still needs tweaked, you can use a press to straighten it out. I would wait until all your suspension brackets are welded on for the final straightening. currie-rearend-housing-in-heavy-duty-press-aligning-bearings.jpg
     
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  11. Andy
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    This is an excellent check to do after welding on brackets. If I find warpage, I put some heat on the opposite side and can always get rid of any wiggle.
     
  12. falcongeorge
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    So lets re-cap. The housing was done on a jig that registered off a shaft through the bearings, and it looked like this, right?
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    and then it was eyeball engineered, and it looks like this, right??
    [​IMG]

    And the general consensus is that this^^ is "all fixed up" and OJ and I are the only ones that see a problem here, right? That about the size of it?
     
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  13. Larry T
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    Nope, you're not alone.
    Needs the brackets welded on, jig put in it and straightened----------------------------------- like Big Deuce said. ^^^^^^^^^
     
  14. Doubting the centerline is correct now. I have use of a jig set-up to check it. Where in Wisconsin are you located ?
     
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  15. thirtytwo
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    I'm under the assumption he straightened the tube to meet the stub ,

    I think that is what the fixture is about ... He welded the third member and ends to the fixture and cut loose the ugly piece in between and made the tube meet the stub at the end .

    ... I think that's what happened anyway?
     
  16. rcnut223
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    You are correct thirty two , the bearing end was held in place along with the stub, welded to the jig

    I straightened the housing not moving the stub or bearing end

    The rest of the axle housing was welded to the jig as well
     
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  17. rcnut223
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    I think every one is thinking I just cut the bearing end and stub off and welded it to the tube

    I cut the weld loose , the tube is the only thing that moved
     
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  18. rcnut223
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    I am located in eau claire
     
  19. falcongeorge
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    just as I thought...carry on...
     
  20. rcnut223
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    The jig was made of 1/4 wall 2x6 tube

    Everything was squared up and welded in place

    Neither the housing or either bearing end of the axle could move, at least that was the idea

    If it did ....well $&@!?
     
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  21. Sure glad I ordered mine from Currie.
     
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  22. big duece
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    How did you move the tube, once cut away from the bearing ends? Heat?
     
  23. falcongeorge
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    good question. If he did, he may be at least somewhat close.
     
  24. thirtytwo
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    Just a couple beads from a wire welder close to the third member will pull that tube around a surprising amount without being to evasive to his original setup
     
  25. Da Tinman
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    Hope you accounted for springback when you moved the housing to meet the end in your jig otherwise its still bent, just better looking.

    Alignment bar is the best way to get it straight. If you were closer I'd let you use mine.
     
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  26. falcongeorge
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    I should probably put a number to this, it may help put it in perspective. Total runout of the axle bearing surface relative to the bearing saddles in the third member should be less than .005. Its tough to eyeball much less than .030 on something like this, my guess is, its probably out even more than that, unless you REALLY got lucky. It will move after you weld the brackets on anyway, but you REALLY NEED to check final alignment with a bar through the bearing saddles.
     
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  27. falcongeorge
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    ESPECIALLY if he bent it cold!
     
  28. falcongeorge
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    We really aren't trying to rain on your parade here, several of us are trying to give you sound advice.
     
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  29. rcnut223
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    Guys

    I appreciate the advice , and not taking offense to any of the comments
     
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  30. bobw
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    There's several places in the Twin Cities that can check it for straightness after all the brackets are welded on.
     
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