Let's Talk Cyclecars

Here's some images of Morgan 3 wheelers built at Cameron Engineering ( http://cameronracingengines.com/#home ) in Malvern,not very far from the Morgan factory.The engines are built in house as is everything else.

 

Bob,​

New-born "morgans" are wonderful machines, indeed!
Probably better than originals when they were new in twenties-thirties.

Now, would they be accepted as originals at all shows, rallies, races by authoritarian associations and other owners/drivers of true originals?

Zoran​

 

The PurSang of 3 wheelers!!! I wonder what the asking price is for one of those.

 

I know the engines alone start at about 13,000 British Pounds Sterling.

 

Relax Herb.

 

From L.D. ...

 

Fuldamobil from H.K. ...

 

He would like it if it was diesel!

 

I can't recall if I posted this one before or not ...

 

Or air-cooled

 

... or the best oddity: air-cooled, two-stroke diesel?
Zoran

 

... and, with a compressor!
Zoran

 

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Bob,
As I remember, that was French attempt to establish new Formula-500 class with 3-wheeler racers – BMW boxer based?
Somewhere I found a few photos more and plans for such vehicles - but couldn't downloaded them... Front wheels look as from Renault 4cv from fifties (maybe entire front suspension/steering)...
Zoran

 

There have been a whole bunch of home built 3W's with a bike bolted to a VW chassis. What's the point?

 

Some images from Retromobile .Salmsom by J-J C. , BNC by Francois R. ...

 

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Bob,
As I remember, that was French attempt to establish new Formula-500 class with 3-wheeler racers – BMW boxer based?
Somewhere I found a few photos more and plans for such vehicles - but couldn't downloaded them... Front wheels look as from Renault 4cv from fifties (maybe entire front suspension/steering)...
Zoran
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Fred,​

Sorry - I do not understand your question!

Simply – Bob posted one photo and I gave short comments to explain what it is about... Therefore: no point, no moral, no lesson...
For me, that three-wheeler was interested from a few reasons:

• It was European construction, where such vehicles were unknown in that period and still are not so popular as in USA;
• It was combination of excellent motorcycle (BMW 500 from that period) and excellent light front part (Reanault 4CV had it better than VW-beetle);
• It was constructed 2-3 decades before in USA appeared “bunch of home built 3W's with a bike bolted to a VW chassis”...

I do not have anything against VW-beetle front part to be used in combination with motorcycle, even started such project by myself some 12 years ago, but must abound it …

Zoran​

 

For me,the beauty of using a BMW bike rear section is a great idea,because it is a well crafted piece of machinery.The only thing missing would a reverse gear.However,you can buy transmissions with reverse gear in them that fit the engine.I'd like to see a BMW cycle engine used in a Morgan 3 wheeler!

 

Or anything unnormal.

 

... that started about Herb, but finished about myself!​

Now, I am discovered as pervert (onyl when engines and motorised vehicles are involved) and could be baned from nice Cyclecar Lovers Society

Zoran​

P.S.: nothing bad in aircraft-engine powered monsters?

 

BNC and Amilcar from Marc's visit to Retromobile

 

Chris's cyclekart parts #1 & #2

 

Bob,
It seems that Chris have a lot of fun with his CycleKart?




Some cute young lady, too!
Zoran

 

Zoran, Honored to share your company! And thanks for sharing your posts.

Herb

 

Hello Herb,​

That's my pleasure and privilage to be in company with so many nice persons and a few creative builders of cycle-cars and other light motorised vehicles! It is nice affair to search around and post here achievements of successful builders, or owners of interesting small cars (big, too)...
I could never assume that there would be so much people interested in cycle-cars and their something bigger cousins: magnificent sport/racing automobiles in a class of 1100 cc, mostly French... or British specials for road and track, or anything cute and attractive!

Regards,
Zoran​

P.S.: My imagination is strong (and very old), but my achievements are modest: one motto-camper, a pair of kid-cars (one is my avatar) and pedal-powered quadricycle for two of us, seniors... Maybe one day that caterpillar (quadricycle) would became nice butterfly (replica of motorised cycle-car)...

 

A nother scratch built J.A.P. engine from Cameron Engineering & Motorsport,Malvern.

 

I don't recall ever seeing any 3 wheel racer 500 over here, 3 wheel construction is more of a Brit thing. The front wheels are definitely Renault 4cv which is pretty stupid with their tendency of bending under side load. The steering wheel appears to be a very early 4cv type, so we can assume like you said that the whole front is from a Renault 4cv.

 

Chris,
You must be right, but maybe that was just a prototype, unseccful attempt to start new formula?

A few parts of discussion on one forum...

Gerard Gaman:
"In 1960, the french magazine "l'Automobile" created a movement called "Mouvement Course 500-3".
The subject was to promoted a 3 wheels 500cc formula... Here a pic of one of the very first attempt : It was the 3 wheels, built by Mr Soldé of Prunay-sous-Ablis. He start from a BMW R51 with a front end of a 4cv Renault..."
Bonde:
"I think the '500-3' concept is a case of taking an ideology one step too far.
According to Francois Jolly's delightful little Editions du Palmier book, "L'épopée francaise des 'Racers 500' ", the '500-3 movement' was instigated by the magazine 'L'Automobile' in about 1959 in an attempt to recreate the spirit of the original 500cc F3 movement. Of course the 500-3 cars lacked the fourth wheel of even most primitive cyclecars of pre-WWI and the 1920s, and handling was poor compared to a genuine 500cc F3; there's even a picture of Terigi overturning in Casablanca to prove the point."
Gerard Gaman:
"This is an other trying : Roger Sceaux, with a Simca 5 front and an BSA Goldstar engine of 1952, with 32 bhp behind! I like the gentleman behind the wheel !!"

It seems that there were some other attempts in the same direction?

Zoran​

 

Thanks, I learned something today I never seen or heard about these deadly contraptions. This concept could be viable if it could lean.
Again the 4cv wheels on something that's suppose to go fast : really scary, when they were already folding under stock 4cv's...