...yeah i know not the best combination of parts when it comes to completing the engine but what you gonn´do thats how i have em now. My motor is based on a 4" crank french block (marmon), i got Navarro 8BA Heads Navarro (historic) "universal model" Intake (but kinda super dual) or Edelbrock Super dual Bubba-modified SBC-Dizzy 37 Ford generator 12v converted ..and here starts the problem. Where do i put the gen? No space in front of carbs due to wide spacing of the 97´s. On the right is the water spigot, tube and dizzy, on the left i have another water spigot and tube. I thought of rotating the left water outlet to flat exit. Next making a bracket as there is no generator-mount in front of the intake and to put the gen above the water outlet. But the water tube is gonna be ugly as hell. Anyone got pictures of solutions you found other than buying new 59a heads with center outlets? thanks Jan
I just ran into the same problem with an offy 3x2. I wound up switching to an Edmunds 2x2 so that does not really help you. I am curious to see what people come up with.
I have a new polished Offy 2 carb hanging on the wall that I would sell worth the money. Changing intakes is really the only solution. Walter
it sounds like that navarro intake was designed to be used with early heads (center outlet), using a gen. bracket that bolts to the head. an article in the jan. '13 hot rod magazine included a navarro universal, but shows it having a generator mount. could be the repop version.
Jan, Take a look at this solution. http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/technical/the-tom-chandler-ford-v8-flathead-generator-solution/ and https://www.google.com/search?q=mounting+a+generator+low+on+a+flathead+engine&espv=2&biw=1268&bih=715&tbm=isch&imgil=-ljHb7W3nP8VfM%3A%3BCt31rH3o0AlTkM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ftheflat-spot.com%252F2015%252F08%252F05%252Fgenerator-wont-fit%252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=-ljHb7W3nP8VfM%3A%2CCt31rH3o0AlTkM%2C_&dpr=1&usg=__KC-x1FNAAfiFn_Vb_0QnonFUiUQ=&ved=0CFUQyjdqFQoTCOOg0qOM1McCFYG-gAod3OwA5A&ei=Y7DkVaPjB4H9ggTc2YOgDg#imgrc=-ljHb7W3nP8VfM:&usg=__KC-x1FNAAfiFn_Vb_0QnonFUiUQ= Or use an offset bracket. https://www.bobdrake.com/Images/Sales/Minicats/Flatheads-Forever.pdf More. http://www.honestcharley.com/pdf/flathead-catalog.pdf You're not the first with this question. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/generator-mounting-for-a-flathead-any-alternatives.26377/ Would this alternator fit?
or do it like this My 8BA, all Nararro products from Mike, the power gen is sitting on a bracket from Mike, a Navarro item that I mounted on roller rocker arm studs so it would A) clear the thermostat housing, 2) not have to re-torque the heads every time I wanted to get to the thermostat, and D) I like acorn nuts. Not right for every application but it worked for me so I thought I would pass it along. The bracket doesn't come polished so it would be fairly unobtrusive on the left head.
The above photos are so shiny with the aluminum that it's hard to see the mounting bracket as it also is so bright. If possible, please post a few more photos that may differentiate the parts. Your idea sure is a great and creative solution. Thanks, JIM
Hey Jim, here's a couple I found on my phone. You can see the studs I used and then I machined in the studs on top for the acorns that hold the bracket down. You can see it is tight clearance for the thermostat housings but they fit. It still left clearance for the spark plug wire looms. Belt runs tight and right. Hope it helps.
Had the same problem with mine too. I am running an alt. and it was in the way of the front carb, so I redrilled the sling shot bracket(it is aluminum) and raised the alt till it cleared and got a longer belt. Been running it for a long time now.
@Jim: Thanks for all those ideas @Billy: Hell of a flatty you got there. And that's an easy solution you found to the problem. If you think too strong the ideas become too complicated. So I think I'll try it you're way btw if I had your engine I would turn some aluminum rod to fit and polish it like the rest instead of those black parts.. Would look great! thanks all
I agree 100% I like shiny parts...as long as they run when they're told to. Call Mike at H&H and have him send you that bracket.
I did something similar as Bandit. This is an earlier bracket shimmed out to fit an 8ba. The common one you find puts the generator out more to the side. The one I needed and found has the gen adjust almost vertical to clear my side hood. If you have the room speedway and others sells the common one.
Here's a couple more. Ones an original S.Co.T. it's missing one strap . The other I'm not sure, both mount with the head bolts.
Solidaxle has something there, my powergen does protrude slightly through where the hood sides would be. I'm not running any but it would sure be an issue if I were. Nice tip, if I fender up I'm going to be looking for that bracket.
I purchased the other double strap ones thinking it would solve my side hood clearance issues, they didn't. I happened to stumble on the one in the picture at a swap meet. I would keep an eye out and buy one just to have, if you're thinking of side hoods in the future. They are not common.There was one on Ebay a short while ago.
Old topic I know, but a current topic for me. It's a shame no one makes a riser style addition for the "Edelbrock Super dual", to make an Eddie Myer esc intake to alleviate the generator carb clearance issue. I know Edelbrock make one similar but not a super dual adapter that I know of, and I am aware of Edelbrocks current issues for future production. I have an "Edelbrock super dual" on the engine in my roadster at the moment and would really like to run the old chrome generator I have with stock mechanical fan without the offset bracket. I have been playing with custom radiator hoses, custom mechanical fan mount, fan belt trouble shooting and the busy look it can potentially create in the engine bay and it makes me think why am I doing it. I am at the point where I think it seems like a backwards way to do it when suitable manifolds are available. I may just have to chase down a manifold that will work for my application, but an adapter for the "Edelbrock super dual" I have would be cool as!
Drylake, the front carburetor mount on your Edelbrock Super is located just too far forward to get the generator to mount in the stock position. Even the shorter 37- 39 generators will not fit in that space. Dave Burns back in the 40's did make an adapter about 4 inches long that will elevate the carbs just enough to allow the generator or Powergen to fit in the stock position on some of the closer together carburetor mounted intakes. There is away to get the generator mounted in the stock position without a lot of difficulty. The answer is the early tall flathead intakes. I'm not a fan of the offset generator brackets. I like the nice clean look with the generator up front, mounted in the stock position. You want to get the carbs up high enough so they won't contact the generator or Powergen. On my 1929 roadster I run an Edelbrock Regular intake and on my 1929 coupe I'm using an original Eddie Meyer exhaust heated intake. On both engines the space is tight but both generators just fit in there and work just fine. Here is a brief list of the intakes you can use to locate your generator or Powergen up front in the stock position. Tall intakes - Edelbrock Slingshot, Edelbrock Regular, Weiand tall, Tattersfield, Harrell, early Thickstun, Thickstun PM7, Eddie Edmunds (most models), Jack Henry, Beck, FGS, and Burns with the mounted Burns risers. I'm sure there are others not listed that will work as well. Yes, I know some of the intakes listed are almost impossible to find today, but some of the others do pop up from time to time and would be a worthwhile investment.
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