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Technical ***Santa's Banger Sleigh: December 2014 Banger Meet***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Dec 1, 2014.

  1. Today I picked up this 1928 early engine, all looks like it would be great,,,but the exhaust ports are heavily rusted, bores are 60 over, no crack but has this heavy rust in the exhaust,ports. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1418895184.073388.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1418895205.565198.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1418895231.790340.jpg
    Wanted it more for its reciprocating assy, sump and oil pump, but do I keep this engine block for future use or just scrap?
    Is there much "meat" in the exhaust ports for porting out, if so how much?


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  2. Colin, that supercharged banger is my kind of thing:)
    Looks like a Toyota SC 14 with a extended snout?



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  3. Getting back to the question of crankshaft modifications I surfed the catalog of one of the best known engine builder and to add counterbalance weights modify for seal pressure drilling etc. etc. cost would be $1000.
     
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  4. Brendan1959
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    Not much information on these but apparently F100 T18, would they make a good conversion to my mild banger?
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  5. Brendan, I'd see about a T-5 conversion, they work really well and get you great highway speeds, also there is tech on how to install one with a torque tube if that is the approach you're going for.
     
  6. colinsmithson
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    Hi Brendan
    Had 1 of those in a Inter 1 toner super strong box
    1st gear is a stump puller never used on the road
    the 1 you want to look at is t170
     
  7. Aisin AMR300 it seems...
     
  8. If the block is not cracked too bad it is worth saving.
    Meat and Model A/B blocks are two words never used in the same sentence.
    The ports have very little material to remove for porting. With the combined rust in the water jacket and the external rust it will be thin.
    The early '28 blocks did not have the rib supports like the later ones around the rear main but probably will have the 5 bearings on the cam. The cam itself may be desirable if it is not too worn out on the center journal.
    Take it apart and do a crack check, I wouldn't put a OHV head on it but as a Flatty it should be fine.

    J
     
  9. WHAAA--LAAAAh! We were just now prepping the rods to go back into my banger. I saw a faint etched name of "Cunningham A1". I looked up and called Greg Cunningham (1-310-5380605). He made them! I didn't ask if he had any in stock. The A1 stands for the rod bolt maker. They're out of business.
     
  10. Need to find out where to find the extended snout fitted to that one, neat installation


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  11. Pulled the engine down today. Engine is a very early A, 5 cam bearing, beaver tail crank, pity about the exhaust ports being rusted, having a good look over they are too far gone. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1419042253.881504.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1419042284.558653.jpg


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  12. Looks kinda like the stuff that I put up with 50 years ago, as a kid. It DO make good hand-grenades, though! Careful! Keep the revs down!
     
  13. dan1989
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    Neoprene rear main seals
     
  14. 48thames
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    The chevy rear main seal on my B engine leaks a lot.

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  15. Bluto
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    Once again checking the notification box failed ............ oh well I'm back in time to wish you all Good Holidays!!!


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  16. Bluto
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    LEAKS??? Put in another seal...........
     
  17. colinsmithson
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  18. colinsmithson
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    Merry Christmas to all
     
  19. On the engines I have with Chevy seals the rear main cap doesn't quite cover the Aluminum adapter and they will leak at that point. The fix from Taylor Engines was seal them at that point with J B weld. If you can see the Aluminum it will probably leak there. This is on both B and A engines

    Merry Xmas
     
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  20. RoddyB34
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    image.jpg Hi Colin ,,I saw the 30 Coupe at the Geelong Revival a couple weeks ago and only took this pic ,,it was competing and the run I saw it do it went and sounded great ,,the owner was kept busy chatting to all the people who admired it,,,
     
  21. BCCHOPIT
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    Merry Christmas everyone!!!!


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  22. jerseyboy
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    Nice pic Bill, did you cut the tree in the state forest?;)
     
  23. If you got it off of I-95, it's gonna STINK :D
     
  24. steve hackel
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    Merry Christmas every one! Does anyone sell the old style Cragar / Miller OHV head gaskets,
    if so, what do they currently cost? Thanks
     
  25. Steve,
    The Miller High-Speed head has a very good gasket made for them.
    The gasket itself is a graphite composite with SS fire rings. cost is ~$130
    It works extremely well for hi performance applications. Street driven.
    If you are going to run full race equipment a solid gasket with wire O-rings can handle higher compression ratios.

    John
     
  26. BCCHOPIT
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    We support the local volunteer fire department every year!!!!


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  27. BC, is that a Douglas or Frazier? I miss the look and smell of a real Christmas tree... everything grown locally here in GA looks like some leafy thing that belongs in a fish tank :p
     
  28. My Model A/B automatic transmission kit just arrived :)
    Question on crank bolts, could I get away with just 4 bolts or do I need to have the extra holes drilled into the crank?
    Reason I ask ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1419229920.539233.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1419229944.391265.jpg is I just picked up my machined crank from my machinist.
    Bring it back to him with the crank adaptor or just use 4 ARP bolts?


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  29. Bluto
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    We have that old fashion smell of an antique ladder

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  30. jerseyboy
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    Nice tree and great idea! I was wondering what that little mechanic was hanging from.

    Happy Holidays! I wish I was getting a high compression head for Christmas.
     

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