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The Ferrari Shoot

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ryan, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Ryan
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  2. Great write up... expresses my dream of having a Model A coupe, a 40 Mercury, and a Lamborghini lined up in my warehouse....and my current car sitting in the back corner as the starter to it all. All different, all serving a particular purpose but none more 'special' overall than each other.

    Maiki
     
  3. hotrodladycrusr
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    Food for thought, thanks
     
  4. PeteFromTexas
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    I Makes You Think A Little....
     

  5. Bookz
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    Ryan yet again you capture what it is about great cars no matter what they are...........Passion!
     
  6. Zerk
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    It clears up a bit of fog that's been in my brain from the start...that somehow the builders of European racing cars and high-performance road cars were pretty much the analog of hotrodders and customizers from the US and elsewhere. Sort of like Abarth or Lotus being the bizarro equivalent of Mickey Thompson or Vic Edelbrock. Or Frua or Ghia being the Euro version of Valley Custom. I've been putting those non-US establishments up on a pedestal in my mind for so long...

    The idea is a little bit unsettling. I'm going to have to think on this.
     
  7. We can probably add change up that Rob't Williams quote if you throw a Maranello in the mix...

    Customs are for getting a girl, hot rods are for getting rid of her, Ferrari's are for when you can afford more than one. :D

    Seriously, Even Enzo Ferrari had to compromise before he could build what he really wanted to build. Build what you can until you can build better.
     
  8. daddy-o63
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    A grand comparison, thanks Ryan.

    Design: The act borne of desire to express beauty, through form.

    (Probably no matter which side of an ocean is your home.)
     
  10. fuel pump
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    Very good reading Ryan and very true. I have been watching Ferrari's race since the early 50s when they raced through the streets of Watkins Glen. They gave me chills then and they still do today. Thanks.
     
  11. Jalopy Jim
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    Great reading, I use to vintage race my Austin Healy against #1 0f 5 Ferrari GTO's they are truely amazing machines.
     
  12. FiddyFour
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    the quality of editorial content on the TJJ blog and the overall content of the entire Atomic Industry network never stops amazing me.

    this is by far and away one of the most inspiring and thought provocing articles i have read in some time, and being a print rag junkie, this is saying a LOT for Ryans talent as a writer. the artistry and eye for detail in the photos, location and composition put most to shame.

    i renued my HAMB alliance membership today before i even read this entry... and having read it now, i remember WHY i ponied up for a second year.

    massive cool bossman... thanks :cool:
     
  13. Stroked
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    Greatness.

    Long before I lusted after a deuce coupe or taildragger, or anything else for that matter, the first posters on my walls growing up were Lamborghinis and Ferraris. I may not ever get one, but I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for their perfect mix of brute force and elegance all wrapped into one sexy package.

    IMO, this TJJ entry ranks right up there with the story of how the Tardel/Cochran Coupe came to be. Relating the souls of some of the coolest cars out there... and throwing in some kick ass pictures for good measure.

    Keep up the good work :cool:


    - Matt
     
  14. Jobe
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    Right in my backyard and I missed it? Great photos and great write up...just one of the many reasons I visit here everyday...
     
  15. Ryan
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    Thanks a ton for the nice words... I was a little worried that folks wouldn't get my warped appreciation for all cars... The 575 is obviously a very different car from the coupe and the dahlia, but I thought they photographed really well together and... well... The essence of Ferrari is actually one of the things that drew to me traditional hot rods and customs in the first place.

    For the record, this was by far the most fun I have ever had writing a story and shooting some cars... I love all three of these cars and I love all the stories behind them.

    I had a sidebar, but decided against running it. I might at a later date... Essentially, it deals with contemporary hot rods vs. REAL contemporary cars like the 575. When you think about it, there is nothing modern about a mustang 2 suspension, or a Jag IRS, or supository lines, etc... Anyway, another day another story...
     
  16. The story seems like quite a bit of a stretch and I don't really see the cars
    blending together very well. But it sounds like a cool trip and any time you
    get to hang out with your friends is good.

    I really enjoy my Model A and it parks next to my stupid fast German daily
    driver but the two have virtually nothing in common.

    I do still enjoy the TJJ blog, but this isn't one of my favorite.





    Watch me get kicked out for disagreeing with the boss. :(
     
  17. Ryan
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    Of course not... I can totally understand your perspective. It's a stretch for most for sure. This article is purely selfish on my part.
     
  18. SinisterCustom
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    I'll take the '36 please.........

    I haven't liked a contemporary Ferrari since the F-40........

    I'm with ya FLT-BLK........
     
  19. fiat128
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    Thanks, that was a great read. I'm glad to see this here. I find a lot of connections between Italian cars and early hot rods. Having been around a lot of Italian cars and their owners (I'm talking the cheap ones here, but they all have the same character once you start fiddling with them) they have that same essence to them.

    I saw a picture recently of a Model A with 392 Hemi fed by four Weber IDA 48s. That car immediately made me imagine what it must have been like back in the 50s when the worlds of Ferrari and hop up crossed paths in places like the Carrera Panamerica.<

    Posers accepted on both sides, I think both are mostly about that love of machinery and what you can do with it
     
  20. Kreb
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    Great article. I agree that there are real similarities in the heritage, even though the racing influences were different (Road racing for europe, oval track and drags for the USA.) I see even more similarities in the "special" movement in postwar England. Every motorhead worth their salt was stripping fuel tanks off of decommisioned warplanes and pounding them into sports cars.

    As an aside, I've shared track days with a number of exotics, and the sad truth is that very few owners of Ferraris, Lotus', Lamborghinis and such are willing to push them very hard. Partially its due to the cost of the cars, and partially due to the fact that mid-engined cars tend to be more likley to spin. My front-engined beast with only $15k invested is much more forgiving and the tab for a crash isn't nearly as daunting (as long as I'm not part of the tab!) It is fun to pull in behind a Ferrari for a lap or two just to listen to the intoxicating sound - right up there with a P-51 at full song on my list of aural porn.
     
  21. theHIGHLANDER
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    That was a fine thing to do Ryan. Someone above said "passion" and that's just about it. Of course it was the basis of the shoot and the write up as well. Let me toss in another Ferrari fact regarding passion and American influence.

    Long ago when Enzo drove for, I think Alfa Romeo in the late teens early 20s he was impressed with the performance of a certain 60 degree V-12. It was this impression that created the wonderful V-12s of the earlier Ferrari offerings some of us love so much. That early 12 was a Packard Twin Six. I always wanted a shot of an early Ferrari 12 reflected into the door of an early 12cyl Packard, showing both motors. As many concours events I've been to I never really got the opportunity. Your article and shoot is as close as I've seen. Nice to see you "get it" beyond the obvious. Thank you for sharing the thoughts.
     
  22. Ryan
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    Highlander, I had no idea... Interesting fact for sure...

    Another one - Enzo Ferrari had no interest in history... He's been quoted a number of times saying stuff like, "An Old Ferrari is worthless if a new one is available."

    Still, the company has done a great job preserving their own history... and Enzo was very much influenced by tradition as witnessed by his staff and his touches in Maranello...
     
  23. kustombuilder
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    you kiddin me? i'm the same way. i've loved hot rods (old cars in general realy) since i was a little guy but it was Ferraris and Lamborghinis that i was first passionate about.
    i'm not sure how i'll pull it off but i still hope to own a Ferrari some day. they are an absolutely amazing piece of machinery and art.
    alot of the older European exotics and race cars are just amazing things of beauty to me. a perfect blending of form and function. and boy do they function!

    ...about the only style of car i can not find any appreciation for are these friggin "Donks". WTF???


    great stuff Ryan...
     
  24. Ryan,
    When you were at Coker Tire did you see the Ferrari 308 with over 100,000mi
    on the clock? It was an interesting story about a sales guy in a Ferrari.
     
  25. Ryan
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    Yeah, I saw it sitting there in all its Magnum PI glory, but didn't ask about it... What's the story?
     
  26. Spike!
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    Great photography and an interesting read as well. Worthy of any magazine for sure, but instead put on display for us all for free. Not selfish at all Ryan.

    Spike
     
  27. loudpedal
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    Ok, ok... I'll admit after reading the story, all 3 cars have (gulp) heart. However only 2 have soul.
     
  28. oldguy829
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    I get it. For me it was a Jaguar XK150 drop head coupe, had to have it, wish I still did. Have had a passion for Jags ever since, still have two.
    But Ford killed it. The new ones have no soul, A front wheel drive Jag? Bullshit. Got my eye on a 64 Mark V sedan. Might take the plunge.
    Thanks Ryan, thought I'd get kicked off for admitting I loved a foreigner.
     
  29. Appleseed
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    If the 575 gets wailed on, raced, and road tripped to death, it'll earn a soul.

    Passion. That is what it's all about, isn't it?

    Thats why I don't bag on other people's cars. From imports, to 4x4s, to "Donks", if that is what lights your fire, I'm all for it. I might not understand it, like it, or approve of it, but if you dig it, to hell with everyone else.
     
  30. I'm with you Appleseed. I can appreciate the passion even if its not mine.
     

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