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C. Montgomery
02-04-2004, 10:11 PM
Lookin to put a set of wide whites on the 49...Where's the best place to get them? I read the post on Coker a while back and I'm skeered!!! Any help is appreciated.....
Cody

=mike=
02-04-2004, 10:29 PM
I have been using Coker bias ply white walls for almost 10 years now . no problems ever with the tires or the company .

hatch
02-04-2004, 10:31 PM
Got mine in basic training.

C. Montgomery
02-04-2004, 10:32 PM
I was just curious, that post went on for pages, and it seemed more bad than good for Coker.....

=mike=
02-04-2004, 10:34 PM
If you are talking about radials then I can't help you . Thier bias ply tires have never let me down . and I have alwyas had good dealings with them .

daddyo54
02-04-2004, 10:34 PM
I got mine at Wallas Wade tire in Dallas Tx.They have all kinds and brands of vintage tires but mine are made by a company named universal .These tires are biasply whitewalls and were $350.00 a set.

C. Montgomery
02-04-2004, 10:55 PM
I just don't know..Sizes? Aren't bias plies sized differently? How do I get close to the same size?

daddyo54
02-04-2004, 11:08 PM
Sorry I spelled the name wrong it's Wallace Wade . They have been in business a long time and know they're stuff.Call them because they can convert your sizes and have most of the stuff in stock .I don't know how close Jarrell is but they set up at Decauter and Arlington swap meets.wallace wade tire (http://www.wallacewade.com/)

av8
02-05-2004, 12:19 AM
Thanks to recommendations on the HAMB I opted for Diamond Back radials ordered direct. Very nice people to deal with. They told me I'd have the tires in two weeks, one week to make them up and a week in transit (UPS). The tires arrived 12 days after I placed my order.

The tires are quality Daytons. As I understand their process, the begin with a fully cured tire to which they vulcanize the whitewall. As such, the whitewall is not a structural element of the tire.

Lateral runout and concentricity are excellent, comparable to high-end Michelins. Required balance weight was muy acceptable. If their mileage, appearance, and reliability are as good as the service and initial quality, I'll be a very happy customer.

Here is Diamond Back's site . . .

http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/products.htm

fuel pump
02-05-2004, 07:22 AM
Like AV8 said.....Diamond Backs. Got em on my 37 and gonna put em on my shoebox.

RawDeal
02-05-2004, 07:35 AM
radials: Diamond Back!!!
bias ply: coker
http://www.coker.com/images/Cross_Ref._chart1.gif

deuce
02-05-2004, 08:43 AM
the bfg sivertown radial www that coker sells are fine, stay away from the "coker" brand name radials. at least i've never had any trouble with the set i have, and never i've never heard anyone complain about them.

straykatkustoms
02-05-2004, 09:49 AM
I went with Diamond Backs Radials, a lot of good feed back from my friends.

http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/index.htm

Happy Trails,

Mick

Happy Trails,

Mick

tinyelvis
02-05-2004, 09:54 AM
I put these on my wagon, http://www.whitewallsplus.com/ had great luck with them, they are radials. I don't have the car anymore, but I hope they still look good!

Tiny

40StudeDude
02-05-2004, 11:35 AM
Whitewallsplus...they'll even GUARANTEE the whitewall to STAY white, even if you run chains on the tires!
Probably the best running, smoothest riding radial I've ever had...comparable in price (maybe just a bit cheaper) to Diamondback...I'd highly recommend them!
R-

345window
02-05-2004, 12:38 PM
Coker. Bias ply.

BLAKE
02-05-2004, 01:50 PM
The Coker bias-plies on my coupe have been great so far - lots of freeway driving with no problems. Ride/drive much better than the radials on the car when I bought it.

ShortBus
02-05-2004, 02:19 PM
It's a good thing that the widewalls on Diamondbacks aren't structural. I'm on my second set of peelers, they almost look like Port-a-walls..

Elrusto
02-05-2004, 07:38 PM
Kelsey Tire (http://kelseytire.com/index.htm)
I've used these guys for a set of 6.70X15 Goodyears.
No problems so far!

CLSSY56
02-05-2004, 08:19 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I put these on my wagon, http://www.whitewallsplus.com/ had great luck with them, they are radials. I don't have the car anymore, but I hope they still look good!

Tiny




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Are these Diamond Backs? Wording on white wall dis-coloration is the same....

av8
02-05-2004, 08:58 PM
Shortbus -- More information, please. You raise an important concern. Wbat inflation pressure do you run? What car(s) do you have faulty Diamond Backs on?

Thus far you're the only one to knock them, and I'm concerned that I might be living in a fool's paradise.

BTW, this is not a shot, I'm not being sarcastic. I really have a concern about the DBs based on your comment.

TIA for some illumination.

ShortBus
02-06-2004, 04:15 PM
Mike- It started with a set of 205/65-14 DBs on my 5000lb Olds. Ran them for about a year before two began to peel from the outer edge.

I called DB and they said the tires were too small for the weight of the car and they wouldn't warrant them. I reminded the HMFIC that I had told them what kind of car they were for when I ordered. He changed his tune when he looked up my account and found my car info. I decided to upgrade to 15-inchers, so I swiped a set of wheels from my brother and went with bigger tires. 215/70 now, per their recommend. Two of these are peeling from the outer edge as well.

They sent a call tag for one of the faulty tires so they could study it.

The peeled part is only an inch or so wide, starting from the outer edge of the white. It went that far and stopped.

I run 35psi, which is what they advised.

There's no pattern to which tires delaminate (devulcanize?), even though I had two go on me both times. The first time they were both on the same side of the car, this time it was the rears (the "light" end of the car).

I think you’re less likely to run into problems considering your car is -what, half the weight of mine?

It’s also my daily. Lots of hard miles..

If you’d like to see pics, let me know.

The tires themselves exhibit the same physical quality you mentioned. They wear well, handle swell and I’m happy with their performance. It’s just that damn whitewall. I’m going with skinny whites next time, just like the 60s bro(tm).

av8
02-06-2004, 04:51 PM
ShortBus -- Thanks for the scenario. I feel better knowing that the first set were too small. Still, one would think that the delaminating were be uniform, all around the circumference.

I'll be sure to keep an eye on mine for problems with the whites. BTW, any recommendations on cleaning them? I was all set to use Westley's Bleche White but someone on the HAMB reported problems with the white checking, suspecting it was caused by the Westley's. Maybe I should have painted the 15s ivory and shod with big-n-little blackwalls. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ShortBus
02-06-2004, 05:54 PM
Mike, The delamination is circumferential, it's about an inch wide all the way around.

I use Comet and a Scotch Brite sponge. Probably about as bad as Westley's.

MilesM
02-06-2004, 05:57 PM
I just recieved a pair from DB and they are Defenders not Daytons. I went with DB because I was trying to match an existing pair of Daytons which they no longer use they said, and also what I have read on here.

Now that they are here and mounted as I was cleaning the older Daytons I noticed a split in the white wall from ceter to outer edge and one side of the split is loose and will be flapping soon I think. I am e-mailing them today to inquire why and if there is a recommended repair.

av8
02-06-2004, 07:06 PM
I misunderstood, ShortBus. That makes more sense, although it's still a bit disquieting!

In the '50s, early '60s I cleaned my whitewalls with Brillo Soap Pads. They worked very well and didn't seem to harm the white during the effective life of premium tires -- which was about 10-12K if you kept them correctly inflated and didn't abuse 'em.Today, even budget radials are good for 40K. My, how things have changed!

53_210
02-06-2004, 07:39 PM
I've got daytons on my car. They were on there when I got it and a few years before that. There's 1 tire that NOT cracked from the center out. 1 is yellowing. I find them very hard to keep clean. I'd just buy some thin white radials and use some genuine HAMB tech and paint or grind them.

Derrick

HillBillytheKid
02-06-2004, 07:59 PM
Coker Candy Classics, some place in Arlington. The guys at Arlington Antique Auto Supply told me where to find it. They've lasted a long time, two years driving and 4 sitting.

Boones
02-06-2004, 08:34 PM
Diamond Back and love them... I actually chose the tire because I wanted a simpler tread pattern then what they offered. They will put a whitewall on any tire.. so if you have a specific brand you like, tell them what it is and they will give you a quote.....

VespaJay
02-08-2004, 11:30 AM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this excellent, super-low-buck method for turning any tire into a wide whitewall:

Fat ASS Whitewalls's Tech Post on making your own whitewalls (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=277791&Forum=A ll_Forums&Words=whitewalls&Match=Entire%20Phrase&S earchpage=0&Limit=75&Old=3months&Main=277791&Searc h=true#Post277791)

FnDIRTYGREASER
02-08-2004, 11:26 PM
thank you very much vespajay. i had not seen that post, and will be doing that to my tires very soon.

Roothawg
02-08-2004, 11:32 PM
I have the worlds best kept secret boys......
buy some Casterol (SP?) Super degreaser in the purple bottle. Spray it on and watch the brown icky stuff ooze out. I used em all the time on my Firestones and they truly do make it effortless. I am gonna buy up 15 gallons of it before the EPA decides it works too good!