35-40 Ford Guys...rear end talk...Pickup guys in particular

[Roothawg]

Looking for a 9 inch that will go under the 36 Ford p/u shop project. Just wondering what to scour the junkyards for. I have a really good 9" pumpkin so I need to stick with that.

Thanks

Root

[NealinCA]

My brother used a 57-60 Ford p/u 9 inch in his 41 p/u. It fit real nice.

Neal

[Radshit]

A customer brought us a 57-59 Ford pass rear for his 39 Ford Coupe. Fit perfect. Should fit your 36 Ford truck..

[Deuce Roadster]

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For the standard Ford wheel pattern (5 on 4 and 1/2)........it is difficult to beat the 57 -59 Ford passenger car/wagon rear..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

If you want the OLD Ford pattern (5 on 5 and 1/2) I use the early 66 to mid 70's Bronco.


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[tootallrodder]

I used a 69 Mustang 9" under my 36. But be carefull as the tubes are very thin and tend to warp with the heat of the welding of the relocated spring perches. I fixed it with a Currie housing but I did not want to spend the money. But it was well worth it in the long run.

[Roothawg]

Man those 57-59 are getting hard to come by....btw ya'll have one ya wanna sell/trade?

[Humboldt Cat]

Speaking of Ford 9-inch diffs., I've been trying to figure out what kind my '57 Effie is hooked up to (what year model, and if it is a Ford 9-inch). The ID # on it is D2VW-A, anybody know how to 'read' these things?

[Roothawg]

look in here...think a hamber has this site.
web page (http://hiqties.hypermart.net/9inch.html)

[CURIOUS RASH]

http://www.50chevy.freeservers.com/Suspension_Widths.html#REAR

[Humboldt Cat]

Thanks for the webpage link, Roothawg,it really helped. Mine's missing an i.d. tag, but all the other measurements and physical signs indicate it's a Ford 9-inch from a early-60's T-Bird, which makes sense, as the motor came out of a '63 T-Bird.
Bought this truck from someone claiming it was a 429 (which was wrong), the block's got no engine tag on it (some T-Birds had them on the valve covers, replaced with chromies when I bought it), so figuring out the origin of this Frankenstein's parts has been one puzzle/hunt after another.
Are T-Bird diff's good material? I still need to figure out the ratio. Thanks again for the weblink.

[Humboldt Cat]

Hey Curious, thanks for the weblink, too!

[AnimalAin]

My 40 coupe has a 59 big car rear end; the 41 pickup has an 8 incher from a Mustang or Cougar (I think). The previous rear in the coupe was from a 67 Mustang. The current item is about 57.5 mounting face-to-mounting face. The 67 Mustang unit was about 2 inches wider. The 57.5 incher works well with 4.5 backspace wheels. The wider item will need 5.5 backspace wheels. These are less common, and maybe not as aesthetically pleasing, but are available.

[John Copeland]

I know that the early Ford 9" rear is the most narrow, but is does require a shallow wheel unless you narrow them. Even though you have a good center section, I would consider using an 8", which are still available in most junk yards. I have a Granada under mine and it works well with 4 1/4" back spacing Halibrand Sprints and 235X70X15 tires. Ideally, a Maverick 8" is a little more narrow then the Granada and will facilitate a wider wheel, my Hali's are 7 1/2" wide which not many folks offer. I have a posi but they are not commom unless you buy an aftermarket unit........point being, I have a pretty healthy SBC which will not hurt an 8" Ford rear, their pretty stout. I know all about the 9" but unless you use the big axels and bearings version, it's no stronger then an 8" and they are plentiful.

Shoe

[sodbuster]

Not to hijack. Root send me your addy in a PM so I can send you something for the guys across the seas.

Chris Nelson
Kansas

[AnimalAin]

The D2VW-A casting mark indicates it probably came from an early 70s Lincoln. D indicates the decade (70s). 2 gives the year (1972). V indicates the chassis type the part was originally designed for; as I recall, the V is mostly used on Lincolns. It has been a few years since I worked in the Ford parts department (OK, about 30 years), but I am pretty sure I didn't lie to you here. By the way, parts numbers for Fords are a little different than casting mumbers, but use the same system up until very recently. Chatting with the parts guy the other day, he noted a few recent "improvements" to the system......

[carkiller]

Root, I use the granada 8 inch axles and brake parts on the 57-59 rear axles, Better axles/brakes. Cut a nine down to 57-59 diminsions, Use readly availabe granada axles. In a fourty I would cut it 3/4 shorter per side cut grnada axles the same for a nice fit. Cal

[carkiller]

Oops, ment ta say in a 35-40. Cal

[OGNC]

My 42 Pickup has a 1959 Ranchero rear end under it. Fits really well. Gears are fine for freeway driving. Pic of my truck (http://www.deadendcruisers.com/images/gallery/pickups/pickups1.jpg)

[NealinCA]

Here is a pic of my brother's 41 p/u with the 57-60 pick-up 9 inch rear. He has 15x8 wheels centered. For comparison, my dad's 40 in front of it has a stock 40 rear with 15x6 wheels on the rear.

Neal

[HotRodMicky]

Hi,
good threat!
I want to put a 8" Mustang under my 40 Ford Sedan .
Are parallel leafs the way to go??
I thought about ladder bars and the stock transverse spring.
It will be a stock 350 with a Muncie 4-speed.
I'm not sure if parallel springs will the tourqe ofe the engine.....
Any comments?
´Thanks
Michael

[Roothawg]

Michael, The parallel leafs will be fine. I had a 350 that was rated around 350hp and it was fine. It might try to "wrap up" the springs so a set of traction type bars would be helpful.

[John Copeland]

This is the Granada rear on Chassis Engineering's parallel leaf springs, the Granada is a bolt in, fits on the factory spring perches using the CE bolt together pieces.

Shoe

[Roothawg]

Hey John, how did the pinion angle line up? That sounds too good to be true. Is that an 8" or a 9"?

[John Copeland]

I adjusted the pinion angle just recently by milling the 3" lowering block at a slight angle. The car has been together for 14 years and the springs have de-arced themselved overtime and changed the angle ever so slightly. It really didn't have to be done. The Granada is a 8", that's all that was offered and the ratio is either 2:76 or 3:00, I have run them all. The 3:55 posi that is in the car now came out of something else, but all the 8" Fords will fit in the Granada housing. Piece of cake!

Shoe

[HotRodMicky]

Thanks for the quick reply, Roothawg
I'm just wondering if the paralell leafs could handle it
without traction bars.I don't like the look of them...
Did you use them ???

[Roothawg]

I built a set of triangulated ladder bars that were tucked up underneath out of sight. Fixed my problem but it stiffened up the ride a little.

[HotRodMicky]

But then you can keep the transverse spring....right?
My 40 is very comftable to ride with it.
I thought if i swap from banjo to 8" i don't have to weld a lot of brackets to the 8" housing if i go for parallel
leafs.

Michael

[HotRodMicky]

bttt

[Roothawg]

They make a piece that welds on to the axle housing so that you can keep your transverse leaf setup.